What are you grateful to God for?

[Seriong]

Nothing, fuck that guy.
(And in the Spoiler most of what the OP said is argued, have at it at your leisure)

Even Evil?

Everything Good in your life is from God and you should be grateful for that but not evil.

So, your god only does the good things? Why? Does he not rule the universe? Doesn't it seem a bit to be grasping at straws to try to say "Oh, he does these things, because he's all powerful, but the bad things, no of course he doesn't do that"

Can I thank him for the insanity of the WBC?

WBC is not preaching the word of God as he tells us in the Bible, the Bible teaches us to preach the Gospel in a loving and caring way and through good deeds but not with hate.

Nope, the Bible is filled with hate, I can very easily show this. (Timothy, for example.)

Your "god" has given me nothing. I owe him no gratitude.

If you turn to God all that you wish for will be given to you as long as it is not sinful but in order to do this you must love God.

Tell that to the starving Africans.

It wasn't for debate it was for people to write things in praise of god.

Nope, you said something incorrect, prepare to be corrected.

Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

My only disappointment is how incompetent you are at defending this belief you hold so close.

I am respectful to Atheist threads so I belive I ame entitled to the same respect of my forum.

If by respectful you mean staying out, then you are doing the opposite. You aren't being respectful by leaving, what in my opinion would be more respectful is to actually enter and defend your belief.

Good, as per traditional morality, is that which is in accord with the will of God.

So, racism, sexism, slavery, homophobia, stoning adulterers, killing children, killing teenagers, the death penalty in general, and general bigotry?

Your comments don't upset me

To be honest, he isn't trying to. He is giving you fair warning.

This forum is getting very hateful

Oh, I'm sorry that your trying to create a Christian thread for Christians didn't go too well. I'm so sorry that when you told people to shut up and praise Jesus they didn't. I'm going to let you in on a secret, this isn't church, we aren't little Christian children, this is a forum, full of people with differing opinions. We argue. Get over it.

So many Americans on this forum- What happened to America being a Christian Nation?

It never was. Constitution requires separation of church and state. Treaty of Tripoli declares us a NOT-Christian nation.
Fuck it, left for a bit, now 20+ Pages, not doing it that much. I'll update it soon.

[Tlaceceyaya]

No, but you'd hope that a perfect parent wouldn't doom his children to eventual death, both on an individual level and a species-wide level.
You'd also hope that a perfect parent wouldn't damn his children to hell for not satisfying his urges...


Holy shit. Anyone else just realize what I just realized?

Eventual death? We've traveled between planets within 10,000 years of research. We'll cross the stars within a million years. And yet, giving us a planet for several million years is dooming humans to death? Puh lease.

Some atheists really have no hope for the human race, that's what I just realized.

You are going to die within 100 years. Probably within the century.
And, since you'll probably just dismiss anything I say regarding the eventual death of the human race, I'll just leave you with this: The eventual death of the universe. If you dispute that, the eventual death of whatever we escape to.

[Dyakovo]

If he's a god then why does he have to put effort into it?

Isn't he all powerful?

A good hockey coach is going to force his fourth line to struggle if his team's winning a game. Sure, he can put in the first line, and let them cream the opposition, but then the fourth line learns very little. Or he could, having a 4-1 lead, send in the fourth line, watch them struggle, and yet, watch them learn. If God just crushes all of the Hellish Spawn, then what are we, as humans, supposed to learn? That we're to sit on the bench, until it's absolutely safe?

Did the hockey coach make the opposing team?

[Srboslavija]

I figured an attempt at Cockney English would connect on us on a more personal level, governa'.

Ireland =/= Cockney.

Learn2region.

ahh of course, Ireland - the jewel of the Emerald Isle.

Then I'll throw in a reference to the Orthodox Celts as an example of Serb-Irish camaraderie and hope it triggers a bit of Christmas positivity

Orthodox Celts - Star Of The County Down

[Seperates]

Done that. I did enjoy it, though there were some days when it was frusterating.
Difficulty is getting back into it during college.

Still doesn't make me a better person. It just means I had the time and opportunity.
Am I better than the man who works for his wife and child? Or the man that works because he enjoys his job, but provides for his wife and child nonetheless? Or the man that has dedicated his life to serve a diety that likely doesn't exist? Or a diety that even he believes isn't likely to exist?

Well, what is better?

Not really, if you help those who need it, free of charge, that makes you a better person. Whether it makes you slightly better, or a lot better, that's the debatable part. But it certainly makes you a better person

Oh college life. Well, I can't blame ya for college, although I helped out. Now, in terms of serving God. I don't view this as either/or. I want Happiness, and I want to serve God. I don't see the two as incompatible. Serving God does not preclude you from working most jobs. Honestly, I don't see why your goals are so incompatible. You can work for your family, enjoy your job, and still have Spiritual Time. There was a time in Russian History, when that used to be the norm! I really don't see why you'd have to choose.

Ah, but you see, those none of those are my goals. But you never told me what was better. So what is optimal?

Spiritual time... I already take time to think and calm my mind, organize my thoughts. What point is there to spirit? What point is there to prayer? Wishes are the things dreams are made of. But dirt, grime, dust, atoms, molecules... these are things reality are made of. You make a plan and you execute it. No point in pretending otherwise.

[Shofercia]

That is very depressing. And very disturbing. How can you live without dreams, without God, without ideas, without others, without yourself? What's left?

Pleasure. Reproduction. Whatever you want. You don't have to follow the rules of the Canaanite God of War for your entire life; go out and LIVE.

You can have pleasure without ideas? That sounds extremely... "Hey guys, I have an idea, let's go skiing!" What's the point of having fun if you're not trying out new ideas or retrying old ones?
You can have reproduction without dreams? I suppose you can, Charlie Sheen does it, and is "winning". But I can't imagine that.

Never said that one has to follow any rules either.

[Ifreann]

Nor has proper English ever hurt anybody, but I digress. I will forgive the debt when I am allowed to leave the Catholic Church. Or when He pays it, whichever happens first.

You need to pay to leave the Catholic Church?

Not quite.

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Nor has proper English ever hurt anybody, but I digress. I will forgive the debt when I am allowed to leave the Catholic Church. Or when He pays it, whichever happens first.

You aren't allowed to leave the Catholic Church?

No, one is not.

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He's in Ireland.

I didn't know that mattered. I've never been. Never really came up, you see.

It doesn't. The Catholic Church doesn't allow people to officially leave them. Far as they're concerned, once you're baptised, you're in forever.

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Nor has proper English ever hurt anybody, but I digress. I will forgive the debt when I am allowed to leave the Catholic Church. Or when He pays it, whichever happens first.

I figured an attempt at Cockney English would connect on us on a more personal level, governa'.

...Why?

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(If I recall correctly) Virtually no one is allowed to leave the Catholic Church.

One youtube personality I watch, ZJemptv, deconverted. I think it only required a letter to your bishop.

But that's the states...

That was the case, but canon law was changed to eliminate that possibility.

[Ceannairceach]

Ireland =/= Cockney.

Learn2region.

ahh of course, Ireland - the jewel of the Emerald Isle.

Then I'll throw in a reference to the Orthodox Celts as an example of Serb-Irish camaraderie and hope it triggers a bit of Christmas positivity

Orthodox Celts - Star Of The County Down

As a Serb, don't you celebrate Christmas in January? A bit early for the birthday wishes, eh?

[Tlaceceyaya]

Pleasure. Reproduction. Whatever you want. You don't have to follow the rules of the Canaanite God of War for your entire life; go out and LIVE.

You can have pleasure without ideas? That sounds extremely... "Hey guys, I have an idea, let's go skiing!" What's the point of having fun if you're not trying out new ideas or retrying old ones?
You can have reproduction without dreams? I suppose you can, Charlie Sheen does it, and is "winning". But I can't imagine that.

Never said that one has to follow any rules either.

He said not to live for any of those.

[Ifreann]

Ireland =/= Cockney.

Learn2region.

ahh of course, Ireland - the jewel of the Emerald Isle.

Ah, I see you're with the Department of Redundancy Department.

[Srboslavija]

Nothing, fuck that guy.
(And in the Spoiler most of what the OP said is argued, have at it at your leisure)

Everything Good in your life is from God and you should be grateful for that but not evil.

So, your god only does the good things? Why? Does he not rule the universe? Doesn't it seem a bit to be grasping at straws to try to say "Oh, he does these things, because he's all powerful, but the bad things, no of course he doesn't do that"

WBC is not preaching the word of God as he tells us in the Bible, the Bible teaches us to preach the Gospel in a loving and caring way and through good deeds but not with hate.

Nope, the Bible is filled with hate, I can very easily show this. (Timothy, for example.)

If you turn to God all that you wish for will be given to you as long as it is not sinful but in order to do this you must love God.

Tell that to the starving Africans.

It wasn't for debate it was for people to write things in praise of god.

Nope, you said something incorrect, prepare to be corrected.

Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

My only disappointment is how incompetent you are at defending this belief you hold so close.

I am respectful to Atheist threads so I belive I ame entitled to the same respect of my forum.

If by respectful you mean staying out, then you are doing the opposite. You aren't being respectful by leaving, what in my opinion would be more respectful is to actually enter and defend your belief.

Good, as per traditional morality, is that which is in accord with the will of God.

So, racism, sexism, slavery, homophobia, stoning adulterers, killing children, killing teenagers, the death penalty in general, and general bigotry?

Your comments don't upset me

To be honest, he isn't trying to. He is giving you fair warning.

This forum is getting very hateful

Oh, I'm sorry that your trying to create a Christian thread for Christians didn't go too well. I'm so sorry that when you told people to shut up and praise Jesus they didn't. I'm going to let you in on a secret, this isn't church, we aren't little Christian children, this is a forum, full of people with differing opinions. We argue. Get over it.

So many Americans on this forum- What happened to America being a Christian Nation?

It never was. Constitution requires separation of church and state. Treaty of Tripoli declares us a NOT-Christian nation.
Fuck it, left for a bit, now 20+ Pages, not doing it that much. I'll update it soon.

After that intro, I'm sure the rest of the spoiler is littered with reason and thoughtful commentary.

Not.

[Dyakovo]

OP and Christians: for every rude post here, there are a hundred atheists who don't care if you chose to worship God and respect your right to do so.

I don't see how answering the OP's question is rude.

[Seperates]

So perhaps I am not unique. I am not special. I am not an individual. But you know what. Fuck it. Do not live for dreams. Do not live for God. Do not live for ideas. Do not live for others. Do not live for yourself. Live to live. Because there is nothing more and nother less.

That is very depressing. And very disturbing. How can you live without dreams, without God, without ideas, without others, without yourself? What's left?

Life.

Because this is the stuff we are truely made of.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Nothing, fuck that guy.
(And in the Spoiler most of what the OP said is argued, have at it at your leisure)

So, your god only does the good things? Why? Does he not rule the universe? Doesn't it seem a bit to be grasping at straws to try to say "Oh, he does these things, because he's all powerful, but the bad things, no of course he doesn't do that"



Nope, the Bible is filled with hate, I can very easily show this. (Timothy, for example.)



Tell that to the starving Africans.



Nope, you said something incorrect, prepare to be corrected.



My only disappointment is how incompetent you are at defending this belief you hold so close.



If by respectful you mean staying out, then you are doing the opposite. You aren't being respectful by leaving, what in my opinion would be more respectful is to actually enter and defend your belief.



So, racism, sexism, slavery, homophobia, stoning adulterers, killing children, killing teenagers, the death penalty in general, and general bigotry?



To be honest, he isn't trying to. He is giving you fair warning.



Oh, I'm sorry that your trying to create a Christian thread for Christians didn't go too well. I'm so sorry that when you told people to shut up and praise Jesus they didn't. I'm going to let you in on a secret, this isn't church, we aren't little Christian children, this is a forum, full of people with differing opinions. We argue. Get over it.



It never was. Constitution requires separation of church and state. Treaty of Tripoli declares us a NOT-Christian nation.
Fuck it, left for a bit, now 20+ Pages, not doing it that much. I'll update it soon.

After that intro, I'm sure the rest of the spoiler is littered with reason and thoughtful commentary.

Not.

Actually, it is. If it isn't, I'm sorry, and will look over your explanation on why.

[Zimmer Twins]

chance for life. also this site.

[The Nation of Theives]

Dude, this is such troll bait.

Welcome to Nationstates, where everyone is wrong and debates don't matter! WHEEEEE!

[Tlaceceyaya]

chance for life. also this site.

Max Barry created this website, not the Canaanite God of War.

[Ceannairceach]

chance for life. also this site.

This site is dedicated to the blood god.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Nothing, fuck that guy.
(And in the Spoiler most of what the OP said is argued, have at it at your leisure)

So, your god only does the good things? Why? Does he not rule the universe? Doesn't it seem a bit to be grasping at straws to try to say "Oh, he does these things, because he's all powerful, but the bad things, no of course he doesn't do that"



Nope, the Bible is filled with hate, I can very easily show this. (Timothy, for example.)



Tell that to the starving Africans.



Nope, you said something incorrect, prepare to be corrected.



My only disappointment is how incompetent you are at defending this belief you hold so close.



If by respectful you mean staying out, then you are doing the opposite. You aren't being respectful by leaving, what in my opinion would be more respectful is to actually enter and defend your belief.



So, racism, sexism, slavery, homophobia, stoning adulterers, killing children, killing teenagers, the death penalty in general, and general bigotry?



To be honest, he isn't trying to. He is giving you fair warning.



Oh, I'm sorry that your trying to create a Christian thread for Christians didn't go too well. I'm so sorry that when you told people to shut up and praise Jesus they didn't. I'm going to let you in on a secret, this isn't church, we aren't little Christian children, this is a forum, full of people with differing opinions. We argue. Get over it.



It never was. Constitution requires separation of church and state. Treaty of Tripoli declares us a NOT-Christian nation.
Fuck it, left for a bit, now 20+ Pages, not doing it that much. I'll update it soon.

After that intro, I'm sure the rest of the spoiler is littered with reason and thoughtful commentary.

Not.

And this is where Christianity gets the reputation for being open-minded, I guess.

[Ifreann]

OP and Christians: for every rude post here, there are a hundred atheists who don't care if you chose to worship God and respect your right to do so.

I don't see how answering the OP's question is rude.

It's rude to be openly atheist, you see. Especially around Christians.

[Dyakovo]

Nor has proper English ever hurt anybody, but I digress. I will forgive the debt when I am allowed to leave the Catholic Church. Or when He pays it, whichever happens first.

You aren't allowed to leave the Catholic Church?

Not according to the RC... Once you're baptized that's it. You're catholic for eternity or until you're excommunicated.

[Grave_n_idle]

He who is without sin cast the first stone..... how tolerant of you. point is i don't see any reason that belief changes any thing that should give you points in the afterlife. Look not all christians believe in spreading the gospel and believing god is a criteria for going to heaven. What evidence do you have that your beliefs on god are more correct than theirs?

Our scripture has made sense. Charriot wheels used be Egyptians were found in the red sea when Moses parted it.

Parody? Or you honestly believe you're talking about evidence that actually exists?

[Ende]

Humans, who, as you can see from the demonstration here, are lovely, kind, thoughtful, and considerate creatures.

Yep.

Totally.

Mm-hmm.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Our scripture has made sense. Charriot wheels used be Egyptians were found in the red sea when Moses parted it.

Parody? Or you honestly believe you're talking about evidence that actually exists?

Chariot wheels found in the Red Sea aren't even proof of anything.
There are literally dozens of potential explanations for how that could happen that don't rely on miraculous bullshit.

[Ceannairceach]

You aren't allowed to leave the Catholic Church?

Not according to the RC... Once you're baptized that's it. You're catholic for eternity or until you're excommunicated.

So I suppose the only option is to pull a Pussy Riot-esque show in the Cathedral, then.