sorry what are white people having to give up? That is who this bigoted candidate referenced. She wants to keep the community white.
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by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:55 pm
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:59 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ruffletrump wrote:
Not give it up entirely, but you should at least attempt to integrate with the dominant culture of a community rather than forcing them to give up their culture to accommodate you.
sorry what are white people having to give up? That is who this bigoted candidate referenced. She wants to keep the community white.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:00 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:San Lumen wrote:sorry what are white people having to give up? That is who this bigoted candidate referenced. She wants to keep the community white.
Let's see some of our history, having to change certain traditions because it offends people like you, among other things. And fyi I wasn't really referring to the candidate, let alone her admittedly backwards views.
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:01 pm
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:04 pm
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:05 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Oh you mean taking down statues put up during Jim Crow to intimidate and streets named for traitors?
Oh I think you mean defacing monuments that honor the dead or reconcilliation after the war, as well as honor the men that fought. Btw I'm still waiting on your answer to the question I asked you earlier. OR do you having nothing of substance to add?
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:06 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Oh you mean taking down statues put up during Jim Crow to intimidate and streets named for traitors?
Oh I think you mean defacing monuments that honor the dead or reconcilliation after the war, as well as honor the men that fought. Btw I'm still waiting on your answer to the question I asked you earlier. OR do you having nothing of substance to add?
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:07 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ruffletrump wrote:
Oh I think you mean defacing monuments that honor the dead or reconcilliation after the war, as well as honor the men that fought. Btw I'm still waiting on your answer to the question I asked you earlier. OR do you having nothing of substance to add?
That isnt acceptable.
a community should welcome new arrivals and not turn them away because they have different traditions or customs or their skin color.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:07 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:San Lumen wrote:That isnt acceptable.
a community should welcome new arrivals and not turn them away because they have different traditions or customs or their skin color.
If you'd noticed I'm not against new arrivals, but I do think that they should integrate into the community rather than putting their own traditions above that of the community they live in. Better yet, blend the two so that the culture of the community only becomes ever more rich in culture.
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:10 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ruffletrump wrote:
If you'd noticed I'm not against new arrivals, but I do think that they should integrate into the community rather than putting their own traditions above that of the community they live in. Better yet, blend the two so that the culture of the community only becomes ever more rich in culture.
define integration
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:11 pm
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:12 pm
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Ruffletrump wrote:
Oh I think you mean defacing monuments that honor the dead or reconcilliation after the war, as well as honor the men that fought. Btw I'm still waiting on your answer to the question I asked you earlier. OR do you having nothing of substance to add?
Let the dead honor their own dead. Let the living create monuments to those alive in memory.
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:15 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ruffletrump wrote:
Blending with the community and becoming part of it, rather than isolating oneself/cutting oneself of from it.
ok and you define that as completely giving up your previous culture and traditions?
Do you also think that what the woman mentioned in the OP said was unacceptable and bigoted?
by Drongonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:18 pm
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by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:19 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Let the dead honor their own dead. Let the living create monuments to those alive in memory.
Honor the dead who perished before their time in memory and in stone. Let the living honor and celebrate them for the good they have done, but remember their misdeeds and let them not be repeated.
by Ruffletrump » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:21 pm
by Farnhamia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:21 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:22 pm
by Grand Proudhonia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:27 pm
Ruffletrump wrote:Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Let the dead honor their own dead. Let the living create monuments to those alive in memory.
Honor the dead who perished before their time in memory and in stone. Let the living honor and celebrate them for the good they have done, but remember their misdeeds and let them not be repeated.
by San Lumen » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:35 pm
Drongonia wrote:Those are her views and she should be allowed to speak them if she wants. Similarly, if someone thinks those values align with theirs, they should feel free to vote for her.
This is an outrage-bait story from the media to get clicks, this woman is likely going to get nowhere near any kind of power, as people will likely be smart enough not to vote for her.
by Pacomia » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:37 pm
San Lumen wrote:Drongonia wrote:Those are her views and she should be allowed to speak them if she wants. Similarly, if someone thinks those values align with theirs, they should feel free to vote for her.
This is an outrage-bait story from the media to get clicks, this woman is likely going to get nowhere near any kind of power, as people will likely be smart enough not to vote for her.
I agree. She is entitled to her views, run for office if she meets the requirements and if someone chooses to vote for her that is also their right
by US-SSR » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:35 pm
by Rojava Free State » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:54 am
US-SSR wrote:San Lumen wrote:You agree with her bigotry and comments on interracial marriage?
To be clear, not at all, but imo a community that is <1% nonwhite probably has other barriers to diversity than one racist grandma running around lamenting Loving v. Virginia. Instead of jumping down her throat they might could do a little soul searching about why non-Caucasians find their town so unappealing.
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