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[SUBMITTED] Planting The Sands of Revolution

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[SUBMITTED] Planting The Sands of Revolution

Postby Fauxia » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:41 pm

Note: This is replacing my old draft on a somewhat similar subject you may recall. It's different enough that I am making a new thread. It may no longer be Cuba-based, but I am still going to use Haptu.

[description]Your government was very pleased when the Socialist Party was elected in the tropical island nation of Haptu. Three weeks later, however, a coalition of capitalist nations led by the United Federation installed an ideologically similar dictator in a brutal coup. Your advisors now speak, each allotted an exactly equal amount of time as measured by an hourglass.

[validity]must be socialist, must have some foreign aid

[option]"They stole it from us, those bourgeois pigs!" exclaims Sandy Nista, your Minister of Proletarian Liberation, while flipping the hourglass on your desk. "It might be different if these soulless capitalists were the legitimate government, but it isn't fair that they can just overthrow the Socialist Party! @@LEADER@@, we need to act in the best interests of @@NAME@@ and its allies, and that means militarily and economically! Down with the bourgeoisie!
[fallout]the nation claims that socialist parties that lose elections in foreign countries had the elections stolen

[option]"That seems like a very dangerous idea," supposes your Minister of Caution, Calculation, and Catastrophe Prevention, @@RANDOMNAME@@, accidentally knocking the hourglass over, smashing it into pieces. "Oh, whoops! Anyway, it's probably not advisable to start a war with the United Federation. It has a powerful economy and an even more powerful military, so it isn't a good idea to anger them more than we need. To appease those who will be displeased, add a bit of funding to the welfare budget, and they'll forget in due time."
[fallout]the nation regards the wars of its allies as "their own damn business"

[option]"The minister makes a fair point," asserts @@RANDOMNAME@@, @@HIS@@ hands bleeding profusely from the small shard of the hourglass @@HE@@ stole. "It's probably best not to anger the more powerful 'first world' countries, but we should be advancing the socialist cause. Let's just secretly supply the resistance with weapons while publicly remaining neutral. Hopefully no one will catch us. If they do, well then, that's another problem. Let’s hope it doesn't come to that."
[fallout]the nation is suspiciously calm when its allies are conquered

[option]"Forget it!" cries pessimist @@RANDOMNAME@@, staying as far as possible from the mess of glass on the floor. "It's not worth it! We're next on the United Federation's list! We may as well just give up and get rid of the command economy. I'm not saying we can't regulate, but maybe if we give the fat cats their private businesses back, just maybe, their probable trade partners in the United Federation won't go after us next. It's probably just best if we plead for our lives, though."
[fallout]the nation finds it difficult to be ideologically similar to every nation with a larger GDP than it

[decription]Much of your government was pleased to see the election of a potential ally in the form of the Socialist Party in Haptu, a small tropical nation. Only a few weeks later, however, capitalists staged a coup in the nation, with the revolutionaries aided by financial and military support from ideologically similar nations such as the United Federation. Now, whether you like it or not, you are surrounded by various interest groups, who have each had an equal amount of time allotted to make their case.

[validity]must be socialist, must have some foreign aid

[option]"These bourgeois pigs have overthrown the democratic mandate of a potential ally!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Proletarian Liberation, while discretely flipping the hourglass determining time. "It might be different if these soulless capitalists were the legitimate government, but it isn't fair that they can just overthrow the Socialist Party! @@LEADER@@, we need to act in the best interests of @@NAME@@ and its allies- support the rebels! Down with the bourgeoisie!"
[fallout]the nation maintains that its foreign coups are actually restoring legitimately elected socialist parties

[option]"That seems like a bit of a waste of money," supposes your Minister of Caution, Calculation, and Catastrophe Prevention, @@RANDOMNAME@@, accidentally knocking the hourglass over. You hope your janitor has not been listening as he immediately begins to sweep up the shattered mess. The good minister continues, "it's probably not advisable to start a war with a powerful nation like the United Federation. They are an enormous nation with a large economy and an even larger military, and so not an enemy you should want to face! The capitalists won't come after us if we just keep our socialism to ourselves. And to appease those who won't be pleased by this decision, add a little more to the welfare budget."
[fallout]the government swears not to cause foreign coups if the favor is returned

[option]"The minister makes a fair point," asserts @@RANDOMNAME@@, @@HIS@@ hands bleeding profusely from the small shard of the hourglass @@HE@@ stole. "It's probably best not to anger the more powerful 'first world' countries, but we should be advancing the socialist cause. So let's just secretly fund the resistance without publicly taking a side. Hopefully no one will catch us. If they do, well then, that's another problem. Hopefully it doesn't come to that."
[fallout]the nation is suspiciously nonpartisan in foreign affairs

[option]"Forget it!" cries pessimist @@RANDOMNAME@@, staying as far as possible from the janitor's work. "It's not worth it! We're next on the United Federation's list! We may as well just give up and get rid of the command economy. I'm not saying we can't regulate, but maybe if we give the fat cats their private businesses back, just maybe, their probable trade partners in the United Federation won't go after us next. It's probably just best if we plead for our lives, though."
[fallout]the nation finds it difficult to try to mimick every single nation with a larger GDP than it
Last edited by Fauxia on Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:08 pm, edited 8 times in total.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:31 am

I feel like this about 50 years too late
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:05 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I feel like this about 50 years too late
We’ve had issues about historical events, though. If you think the United Federation is the wrong NPC nation, maybe
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:05 am

Yes, the premise is definitely fine. An event being historical doesn't stop it being relevant. The UF is a good choice, I think personally.
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Postby Fauxia » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:59 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Yes, the premise is definitely fine. An event being historical doesn't stop it being relevant. The UF is a good choice, I think personally.
That is what I thought, it isn’t like the US didn’t support any anti-communist coups and attempt others
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:26 am

Options are a bit fat, especially 1 and 2.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:32 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Options are a bit fat, especially 1 and 2.
2 more than 1, but yeah, I see it for both
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:23 pm

New draft out
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Postby Drayxaso » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:41 pm

This is a lot better than your last draft. No criticism yet (I'll probably edit this post if I have the time), but I really like this. I heard there's very little socialist-exclusive issues, so this'll fill a niche.

I suppose it's more like the Nicaraguan Contras or the coup in Guatemala than Cuba at this point, but it works pretty well. It's not exactly historical, but uses elements from multiple different events, which I really like.
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:06 pm

Drayxaso wrote:This is a lot better than your last draft. No criticism yet (I'll probably edit this post if I have the time), but I really like this. I heard there's very little socialist-exclusive issues, so this'll fill a niche.

I suppose it's more like the Nicaraguan Contras or the coup in Guatemala than Cuba at this point, but it works pretty well. It's not exactly historical, but uses elements from multiple different events, which I really like.
It’s meant to be closer to Guatemala and Nicaragua, yeah
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:29 am

Bumpity bump.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:31 am

Looking good to me.
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:34 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Looking good to me.
Thanks.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:23 pm

Made some minor edits to make it a bit of a smoother read.

Last call before submission.
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Postby Baggieland » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:48 am

Fauxia wrote: Your advisors now which to speak


I think you mean 'wish' not 'which'.

Fauxia wrote:we need to act in the best interests of @@NAME@@ and its allies- support the rebels!


How are you going to support them? You mention military action in option 2, I think that should at least be hinted at here in option 1.

Otherwise, looks good to me too.

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Postby Fauxia » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:47 pm

Baggieland wrote:
Fauxia wrote: Your advisors now which to speak


I think you mean 'wish' not 'which'.

Fauxia wrote:we need to act in the best interests of @@NAME@@ and its allies- support the rebels!


How are you going to support them? You mention military action in option 2, I think that should at least be hinted at here in option 1.

Otherwise, looks good to me too.
Aha! I honestly was close to submission but something mildly miffed my issue taste... good catch, thanks!
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:12 pm

Last bump before submission
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:25 am

Uh, I don’t think I ever submitted this, did I?
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:45 am

Fauxia wrote:Uh, I don’t think I ever submitted this, did I?

I can't find anywhere where it's been submitted, so I think that you probably haven't.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:07 pm

I’ll submit this now then, thanks, Joy
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