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The Annexation of Benaroon [OOC] [Semi-Open]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]
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Elcric Kcalb
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The Annexation of Benaroon [OOC] [Semi-Open]

Postby Elcric Kcalb » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:03 pm

This is the OOC thread for the following Roleplay: [X]

If you would like to join this roleplay, but were not present in the preceding RPs or named in the OP, you should post here and wait to be okay'd by someone to join. You should also declare your nation's agenda (IE, anti-slavery coalition, pro-Benaroon, or independent actor). If you have a hankering for direct communication, here is a Discord Chat. It's very nice.

Remember: keep OOC posts confined to this thread and don't pick silly fights.

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Nations United for Conquest
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:13 pm

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Leader - Prime Minister Alaro Kuhn
Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
Roleplay Information
OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF OSKANO
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Est. 1663

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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:00 pm

Hey,

I'd like to propose that we become invite-only - anyone who wants to join would need an invite from someone who was in the original roleplay. This would minimise the possibility of people joining randomly.

Also, the quality of the roleplay has been very good so far.
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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:03 pm

Don't move forward, guys. I have a glorious post in the works, but I need sleep.
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:09 pm

Well soon as I get the tineline sorted out I'm going to make a post about a meeting for Coalition Nations
National Information
Leader - Prime Minister Alaro Kuhn
Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
Roleplay Information
OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF OSKANO
COBALT NETWORK MEMBER
Est. 1663

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Benaroon
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Postby Benaroon » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:00 pm

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Slaves are not sold in our nation ( unless you want them to be).

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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:49 pm

I will post sometime tomorrow, to start to IC rolling
National Information
Leader - Prime Minister Alaro Kuhn
Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
Roleplay Information
OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF OSKANO
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Est. 1663

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Postby Mizialand » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:57 pm

We'd like to secretly supply chemical and if need be, nuclear weapons to all parties against the slaver. Is anyone interested?
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Postby Terra Novam » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:07 am

Hello folks, can I have permission to join? I'd like to be a part of this.
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Postby Benaroon » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:46 am

Mizialand wrote:We'd like to secretly supply chemical and if need be, nuclear weapons to all parties against the slaver. Is anyone interested?


No nuclear or nuclear-esqe weapons
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Postby Palmyrion » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:40 am

So, the Corporatocracy is planning to subject Benaroon to "benevolent assimilation"?
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Postby CoraSpia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:43 am

Palmyrion wrote:So, the Corporatocracy is planning to subject Benaroon to "benevolent assimilation"?

And the Haven is planning to subject it to the status quo.
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Elcric Kcalb
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Postby Elcric Kcalb » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:57 am

Palmyrion wrote:So, the Corporatocracy is planning to subject Benaroon to "benevolent assimilation"?


Ayup.

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Postby Palmyrion » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:04 am

Coraspia wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:So, the Corporatocracy is planning to subject Benaroon to "benevolent assimilation"?

And the Haven is planning to subject it to the status quo.

I have two options on the table:
    1) Go along with the Corporatocracy
    2) Invade and "democratically" install a new government that is pro-Palmyrion and abolitionist

And option 3 is, of course, go rogue and kill everyone. Or, option 4, don't step into the conflict at all, since I got one brewing in my homeland.
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:05 am

Well this afternoon I'm going to make a post about the 'coalition' which is trying to install a new democratic government
National Information
Leader - Prime Minister Alaro Kuhn
Capital - Gesno
Population - 325,581,223
Currency - Krot ($)
Roleplay Information
OP Gatelord - [OOC]
The Coming Storm - PLANNED
TBA FE RP - PLANNED

THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF OSKANO
COBALT NETWORK MEMBER
Est. 1663

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Elcric Kcalb
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Postby Elcric Kcalb » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:19 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Coraspia wrote:And the Haven is planning to subject it to the status quo.

I have two options on the table:
    1) Go along with the Corporatocracy
    2) Invade and "democratically" install a new government that is pro-Palmyrion and abolitionist

And option 3 is, of course, go rogue and kill everyone. Or, option 4, don't step into the conflict at all, since I got one brewing in my homeland.


The Corporatocracy would welcome the first option, and would be more than willing to open Benaroon's markets to Palmyrion interests as well.

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Postby Benaroon » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:06 am

The slavery thing is kinda being outlawed rn by the Corpatacracy. Diplomatic relations is another thing. I would want another nation to be in, but on a diplomatic level.
BTw, how realistic are we making this?
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:08 am

Any chance I could join? Alexiandra is fervently anti-slavery, and thus is willing to lend its grudging support to Elcric Kcalb's efforts. Despite its opposition to the imperialistic annexation of Benaroon, the Alexiandran government views such an outcome as preferable to the restoration of slavery under the Vakolicci Haven.
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Postby Kustgebied » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:25 am

Benaroon wrote:The slavery thing is kinda being outlawed rn by the Corpatacracy. Diplomatic relations is another thing. I would want another nation to be in, but on a diplomatic level.
BTw, how realistic are we making this?

Scale of one to ten? Hopefully ten.

As for Alexiandra - yeah, you could join. Perhaps you could support me instead, though? I'm more of a case planning to add Benaroon to the confederation that is Kustgebied - see http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Kustgebied for more.

Remember to use the Discord if you can, everyone - communication and cooperation is key.
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:31 am

Kustgebied wrote:
Benaroon wrote:The slavery thing is kinda being outlawed rn by the Corpatacracy. Diplomatic relations is another thing. I would want another nation to be in, but on a diplomatic level.
BTw, how realistic are we making this?

Scale of one to ten? Hopefully ten.

As for Alexiandra - yeah, you could join. Perhaps you could support me instead, though? I'm more of a case planning to add Benaroon to the confederation that is Kustgebied - see http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Kustgebied for more.

Remember to use the Discord if you can, everyone - communication and cooperation is key.

The question, I think, is whether or not seizing Benaroon from Elcric Kcalb by force would result in a net decrease to the standard of living for its inhabitants. I'm wondering whether or not a war, no matter how well-justified, is preferable to peaceful reform, however moderate.
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Postby Orostan » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:31 am

Can I join this?
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Postby Kustgebied » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:36 am

Alexiandra wrote:
Kustgebied wrote:Scale of one to ten? Hopefully ten.

As for Alexiandra - yeah, you could join. Perhaps you could support me instead, though? I'm more of a case planning to add Benaroon to the confederation that is Kustgebied - see http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Kustgebied for more.

Remember to use the Discord if you can, everyone - communication and cooperation is key.

The question, I think, is whether or not seizing Benaroon from Elcric Kcalb by force would result in a net decrease to the standard of living for its inhabitants. I'm wondering whether or not a war, no matter how well-justified, is preferable to peaceful reform, however moderate.

We're not seizing it by force - we're competing with Elcric Kcalb for control over Benaroon.

Orostan - I abstain on your admission, I really do.
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:41 am

Kustgebied wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:The question, I think, is whether or not seizing Benaroon from Elcric Kcalb by force would result in a net decrease to the standard of living for its inhabitants. I'm wondering whether or not a war, no matter how well-justified, is preferable to peaceful reform, however moderate.

We're not seizing it by force - we're competing with Elcric Kcalb for control over Benaroon.

Orostan - I abstain on your admission, I really do.

Forgive me - I was under the impression that the coup was orchestrated by a faction effectively under the control of Elcric Kcalb. If that's not the case, Kustgebied can count on Alexiandra's moral and material endorsement.
'A distinction is made in private life between what a man thinks and says of himself and what he really is and does. In historical struggles one must make a still sharper distinction between the phrases and fantasies of the parties and their real organisation and real interests, between their conception of themselves and what they really are.'

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Postby Kustgebied » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:43 am

Alexiandra wrote:
Kustgebied wrote:We're not seizing it by force - we're competing with Elcric Kcalb for control over Benaroon.

Orostan - I abstain on your admission, I really do.

Forgive me - I was under the impression that the coup was orchestrated by a faction effectively under the control of Elcric Kcalb. If that's not the case, Kustgebied can count on Alexiandra's moral and material endorsement.

The coup is pro-Elcric Kcalb - but we're not going to resort to an all-out conflict. More of a case small-scale insurgencies, diplomatic pressure, etc.
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Postby Alexiandra » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:57 am

Kustgebied wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:Forgive me - I was under the impression that the coup was orchestrated by a faction effectively under the control of Elcric Kcalb. If that's not the case, Kustgebied can count on Alexiandra's moral and material endorsement.

The coup is pro-Elcric Kcalb - but we're not going to resort to an all-out conflict. More of a case small-scale insurgencies, diplomatic pressure, etc.

In that case, Alexiandra sides with you.
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