by Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:27 am
by The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:29 am
Kotta Telangana wrote:However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?
by North America Inc » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:30 am
by Kyrulia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:35 am
by Dyrrachium » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:36 am
by Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:37 am
The Alma Mater wrote:A penis, so that they can feel safe.
by The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:38 am
North America Inc wrote:Well, i think we all know what's going to happen in this thread.
by The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:39 am
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Way to go for SUPPRESSING my opinion.
by Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:39 am
Kotta Telangana wrote:Ibn Warraq, a famous pro-secular, ex-Muslim author,once described the Islamic "heaven" (jannah) as a cosmic brothel full of women for the exclusive use of "pious" men. I thought he was exaggerating at first, but after being exposed to Islamic scriptures (the Quran and the hadiths), it seems that this is actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what the Islamic "God" offers its believers.
Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."
Link: http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_6_60.php
Allah promises to give his devout believers the women with the "most desirable vaginas" as well as eternal erections for the "pious" men. He also says that all unbeliever women in hell will be available for sexual usage by "pious" Muslim men:
Abu ‘Umama reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages (vaginas) and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp)."
Link: http://sunnah.com/urn/1294400
Quran 55:56 mentions virgins in paradise, for the use of men. Allah ensures that his "rewards" for the faithful are untouched by man or jinni:
"In them [celestial gardens] are women limiting [their] glances, untouched before them by man or jinni - "
Link: http://quran.com/55
Muhammad is quite explicit in describing the "celestial rewards" that Allah promises the faithful.
The Prophet said: “A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings."
Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4851927/Qualities-and-Attributes-of-Hoors-Hoor-al-ayn-Houris-of-Jannah-Paradise#scribd
It is clear that these celestial "women" are nothing more than semen receptacles for the use of "pious" men. Muhammad himself states these beings do not undergo menstruation or menopause as real women do, nor do they urinate, defecate, bear children, or indeed, seem to have any purpose in existing except to satisfy the sexual fantasies of "pious" Muslim men. They are nothing more than sex objects for the exclusive use of Muslim men.
However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by New Werpland » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:42 am
by Kotta Telangana » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:44 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Do muslim marriages end after death btw ?
by Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:45 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by North America Inc » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:48 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:New Werpland wrote:It does?
The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.
by Dyakovo » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:48 am
by Deuxtete » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:50 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Kotta Telangana wrote:Ibn Warraq, a famous pro-secular, ex-Muslim author,once described the Islamic "heaven" (jannah) as a cosmic brothel full of women for the exclusive use of "pious" men. I thought he was exaggerating at first, but after being exposed to Islamic scriptures (the Quran and the hadiths), it seems that this is actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what the Islamic "God" offers its believers.
Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."
Link: http://www.sahih-bukhari.com/Pages/Bukhari_6_60.php
Allah promises to give his devout believers the women with the "most desirable vaginas" as well as eternal erections for the "pious" men. He also says that all unbeliever women in hell will be available for sexual usage by "pious" Muslim men:
Abu ‘Umama reported that Allah’s Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) said: "There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages (vaginas) and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp)."
Link: http://sunnah.com/urn/1294400
Quran 55:56 mentions virgins in paradise, for the use of men. Allah ensures that his "rewards" for the faithful are untouched by man or jinni:
"In them [celestial gardens] are women limiting [their] glances, untouched before them by man or jinni - "
Link: http://quran.com/55
Muhammad is quite explicit in describing the "celestial rewards" that Allah promises the faithful.
The Prophet said: “A houri is a most beautiful young woman with a transparent body. The marrow of her bones is visible like the interior lines of pearls and rubies. She looks like red wine in a white glass. She is of white color, and free from the routine physical disabilities of an ordinary woman such as menstruation, menopause, urinal and offal discharge, child bearing and the related pollution. A houri is a girl of tender age, having large breasts which are round (pointed), and not inclined to dangle. Houris dwell in palaces of splendid surroundings."
Link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4851927/Qualities-and-Attributes-of-Hoors-Hoor-al-ayn-Houris-of-Jannah-Paradise#scribd
It is clear that these celestial "women" are nothing more than semen receptacles for the use of "pious" men. Muhammad himself states these beings do not undergo menstruation or menopause as real women do, nor do they urinate, defecate, bear children, or indeed, seem to have any purpose in existing except to satisfy the sexual fantasies of "pious" Muslim men. They are nothing more than sex objects for the exclusive use of Muslim men.
However, what I am interested in is what the Muslim women get in paradise. Muhammad seems to relish describing in detail the celestial rewards that his male followers will receive, but what will Muslim women get?
And Christianity demands you take the wives and harems of those you conquer, for they are now your property.
Your point?
As I understand it, some scholars believe that the whole "72 virgins" thing might be a mistranslation anyway and refer to something else. What, I'm not sure. But I think they're a minority of scholars so that could mean anything.
by Gauthier » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:51 am
by Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:51 am
North America Inc wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.
I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Transoxthraxia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste
by The Alma Mater » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 am
North America Inc wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:The Old Testament (which, IIRC, is pretty heavily taken from Judaism) is pretty brutal.
Brother dies? His wife is yours if you want it. Kill a guy in a war? His shit is now yours. This includes wives, daughters, harems, mothers, slaves, wives' slaves and certain female pets.
I think the OP's point is that people still take everything literal in the Koran, while most Christians do not.
by Politicoandrous Anthronegative Proplex » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 am
by North America Inc » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:54 am
by Dyrrachium » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:54 am
by Imperializt Russia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:55 am
Transoxthraxia wrote:Careful, you might get banned for speaking out against the Religion of Peace.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
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