[DRAFT] Repeal "Freedom of Marriage Act"

[Hirota]

Attention all bigots and nit-pickers: We will fight any attempt to repeal the Freedom of Marriage Act. It is a well-written GAR that ensures basic equity and fundamental human rights.

Please stop wasting our time with this pathetic nonsense.

The Catty Kitten Empire of Illyriel joins our fellow cats from The Cat-Tribe in support of the Freedom of Marriage Act. We will continue to oppose any efforts to repeal this resolution.

It's a well known fact* that cats are far more homosexual than other species. And they do love their weddings.

* is not a fact, unless a fact is something that you can make up. Oh wait, this is NS, of course we can make this stuff up!

[Dredafen]

Sir, it would be appreciated if you would refrain from putting words in other ambassador's mouths or making assumptions as to their orientation or philosophies. Your conjecture is unrelated to the actual debate, and could be considered slander.

[Illyriel]

Attention all bigots and nit-pickers: We will fight any attempt to repeal the Freedom of Marriage Act. It is a well-written GAR that ensures basic equity and fundamental human rights.

Please stop wasting our time with this pathetic nonsense.

The Catty Kitten Empire of Illyriel joins our fellow cats from The Cat-Tribe in support of the Freedom of Marriage Act. We will continue to oppose any efforts to repeal this resolution.

It's a well known fact* that cats are far more homosexual than other species. And they do love their weddings.

* is not a fact, unless a fact is something that you can make up. Oh wait, this is NS, of course we can make this stuff up!

That would be a factoid.

[Hirota]

Sir, it would be appreciated if you would refrain from putting words in other ambassador's mouths or making assumptions as to their orientation or philosophies. Your conjecture is unrelated to the actual debate, and could be considered slander.

Sir, it would be appreciated if you knew what a joke was. And could read small fonts. And not be an arrogant arse who thought he could presume to lecture me on how to behave.

[Dredafen]

I'm sorry, I had always been under the impression that a joke was supposed to be funny. My mistake.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and realize when someone is being sarcastic. I'm sure you meant no harm with your remarks, and know well enough how to behave when you're not accusing other ambassadors of being arrogant arses, and must be a charming fellow indeed.

[Minotzia]

I don't agree with a repeal. Making marriage liberal and free is a very valid resolution.

Nonsense. Resolution #2 states: "Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers," which is clearly in conflict with FoMA: "No State shall create special categories of contracts" and "No State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects."

Resolution #15, FoMA, is clearly in violation of Resolution #2, because if you look at the text of FoMA you find the specific NATIONAL bias as opposed to the world sentiment:

"CONVINCED that the union of two persons should be equally protected by the State regardless of gender or sexual orientation,

CONVINCED that it is necessary to adopt worldwide standards for the protection of minorities whenever persons of these minorities decide to share a life together,

Since there is clear opposition to the resolution, it's clear that the world is not "convinced" that it is necessary. Rewording it may fix that issue, but it still reeks of a merely national perspective.

[Hirota]

I don't agree with a repeal. Making marriage liberal and free is a very valid resolution.

Nonsense.

Clearly it is not nonsense because over 50% of those who voted on it, voted for it.

Resolution #15, FoMA, is clearly in violation of Resolution #2,

If it was illegal, it would have been deleted before reaching vote. Also, you've missed the whole of Section 3 of Res #2, specifically article 9 which outlines a Member states obligations to satisfy international law, including resolutions.

[Minotzia]

I don't agree with a repeal. Making marriage liberal and free is a very valid resolution.

Nonsense.

Clearly it is not nonsense because over 50% of those who voted on it, voted for it.

Resolution #15, FoMA, is clearly in violation of Resolution #2,

If it was illegal, it would have been deleted before reaching vote. Also, you've missed the whole of Section 3 of Res #2, specifically article 9 which outlines a Member states obligations to satisfy international law, including resolutions.

My point is that this isn't international law. It's nation oriented, as clearly indicated by the use of the word CONVINCED.

[Gaypeoples]

i am really against a repeal.
its not fair to discriminate people for its sexuality. We have a heterosexual minority and they have equal rights too, because the couldnt really change his sexuality. We think heterosexual is a bit "sick", because it doesnt make as happy as homosexual, but the technique in our country to change sexuality is quite new and the "old" heterosexual loves and families cant be destroyed!!! That would be a very terrible idea against minorities that cant really change their sexuality!!!
Its only in example in our country. Its against human rights!
religion isnt rational, so religion arent allowed to believe everything that destroy people's life!

[Hirota]

My point is that this isn't international law.

And my point is that it is international law because it has been legislated on by the WA.

What you mean is if it should be international law - and trying to misrepresent another resolution to suggest it isn't.

It's nation oriented, as clearly indicated by the use of the word CONVINCED.

So you are quibbling over the language used? Because it's CONVINCED (in the preamble), the resolution is undermined? Better go repeal a whole heap of other resolutions (#16, #17, #30, #34, #37, #38, #58, #77) because they use the word CONVINCED as a preambulatory clause then.

i am really against a repeal.
its not fair to discriminate people for its sexuality.

And I bet you have lots of gay cats too.

[Urgench]

Sir, it would be appreciated if you would refrain from putting words in other ambassador's mouths or making assumptions as to their orientation or philosophies. Your conjecture is unrelated to the actual debate, and could be considered slander.

In what way slander your Excellency?


Yours,

[Hirota]

Sir, it would be appreciated if you would refrain from putting words in other ambassador's mouths or making assumptions as to their orientation or philosophies. Your conjecture is unrelated to the actual debate, and could be considered slander.

In what way slander your Excellency?


Yours,

Oh it's okay, he was being "sarcastic" and "joking" - in that way people claim they were "joking" or being "sarcastic" when they are clearly are not and just claiming they are to avoid further smiting.

[Flibbleites]

I don't agree with a repeal. Making marriage liberal and free is a very valid resolution.

Nonsense. Resolution #2 states: "Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers," which is clearly in conflict with FoMA: "No State shall create special categories of contracts" and "No State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects."

Resolution #15, FoMA, is clearly in violation of Resolution #2, because if you look at the text of FoMA you find the specific NATIONAL bias as opposed to the world sentiment:

"CONVINCED that the union of two persons should be equally protected by the State regardless of gender or sexual orientation,

Actually, no it's not due to Article 2 of Rights and Duties.

Article 2 § Every WA Member State has the right to exercise jurisdiction over its territory and over all persons and things therein, subject to the immunities recognized by international law.

Which in layman's terms means that the WA can overrule national sovereignty.

[Dredafen]

Out of sheer curiosity, we would like to ask the delegate from Gaypeoples how their population perpetuates itself.

We bore no ill will towards the nation of, or the ambassador from Hirota, and have stated this much already. We'd appreciate it if you wouldn't presume as to the intention with which our words are spoken.

But despite these meaningless little quibbles, the fact stands that there's no real justification for a repeal, no matter how long we argue back and forth on National Sov.

[Mousebumples]

Out of sheer curiosity, we would like to ask the delegate from Gaypeoples how their population perpetuates itself.

If I had to guess, I would presume that it has something to do with surrogates and both sperm banks and egg banks. I would also think that, depending on their national laws, there could be a pretty good living to be made for women who are willing to act as a surrogate for a gay male couple. Of course, international adoption may also be a possibility as there are many nations without the resources necessary to support their nations' children.

[Dredafen]

That's certainly a possibility. It would also not surprise me if their country acted as a save haven for homosexual immigrants from other countries who are fleeing persecution.

We admire the nation of Gaypeoples for founding a haven where homosexuals can live in peace, while still managing to not be vengeful and preserve the rights of others.