White People and History

[Conserative Morality]

The white 'race' has dominated history, according to some. Is this view ahistorical, whatever its (In my opinion, complete lack of) scientific merit? Whatever one's opinion on race, is it true that the cultural construct we generally recognize as the white race has dominated world events, striving forward where other races merely followed? Is it true that certain races have gotten the short end of the historical stick, so to speak, or is it simply that the bias of some leads them to apply current circumstances to history?

In case my tone didn't make it apparent, I'm not a fan of the idea. I think it's morally unsound and has no basis in history; not even in European history.

Discuss.

[Shiie]

Only great men have dominated history.

[Southern Arkansas]

What do you consider "White"?



It seems like most groups have had empires and great societies.

[Conserative Morality]

Only great men have dominated history.

On the risk of going off-topic... cultural forces have forced history along just as often as great men. It's not an either/or - great men create cultures, cultures create great men, and every great man in history has worked through the lens of his culture, even if he seeks to change it.

[NERVUN]

Only if you're studying western history...

[Anglo-California]

The problems you're talking about are because people starting thinking that white history = global history

[Fartsniffage]

Only great men have dominated history.

Neville Chamberlain was hugely influential. I'd argue that he wasn't a great man.

[Disgusting Ones]

Seems interesting.

[Rifty]

Only if you're studying western history...

This here sums up the rest of this topic~

[Shiie]

Only great men have dominated history.

On the risk of going off-topic... cultural forces have forced history along just as often as great men. It's not an either/or - great men create cultures, cultures create great men, and every great man in history has worked through the lens of his culture, even if he seeks to change it.

Are you saying that great men and culture are separate and can independently exist?

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Only great men have dominated history.

Neville Chamberlain was hugely influential. I'd argue that he wasn't a great man.

Well said.

[Threlizdun]

Societies rise and fall. People ridiculously claim the white "race" is somehow superior or different from others because white people happen to be in positions of power in the short term of history we think of. Powerful empires ruled over by individuals that weren't white, as was the case throughout much of history, is simply forgotten because the type of people who believe in racial superiority are the same type of people who struggle with history beyond what happened a week ago.

[Empire of Narnia]

I think the bias is because the USA and Canada are culturally western, so we tend to focus more on European history than the history of other places. It is slowly changing as we become more multicultural though.

[Conserative Morality]

Are you saying that great men and culture are separate and can independently exist?

Yes.

[The Liberated Territories]

If anything, the "Roman culture" has dominated and influenced history the most. Yet Romans weren't exclusively white.

Such an idea also negates contributions from other cultures, e.g. Arabs and algebra.

Next time you do some algebra - thank an Arab.

[The Kingdom Historia]

Isnt this you second topic where you asked why do white people do....?

[Conserative Morality]

If anything, the "Roman culture" has dominated and influenced history the most. Yet Romans weren't exclusively white.

Such an idea also negates contributions from other cultures, e.g. Arabs and algebra.

Next time you do some algebra - thank an Arab.

Thank an Arab? Not for algebra, thank you very much. I'd sooner eat rocks than do algebra.

[-The West Coast-]

In my opinion the white race has been significantly dominant for centuries. For hundreds of years we've dictated and discovered, we've founded and fought and settled and brought civilization to significantly uncivilized areas of the world. The past when significant inventions were discovered by, for example, the Chinese and gunpowder were literal coincidences.

Gunpowder was only discovered and invented because a Chinese man mixed several things together trying to make bigger, more powerful fireworks. That isn't to say they're not as smart as we are, they often are just as smart, but it does mean that they're not all amazing inventors or superior people in comparison to my race. It was definitely coincidental.

They definitely can take credit for uncovering various important academic tools like algebra, but those were singular men, not the entire race of people, and often times those great thinkers were educated by Europeans and their tools taken and improved upon by Europeans to be more efficient in the future.

[Conserative Morality]

The problems you're talking about are because people starting thinking that white history = global history

Even the history of white people has been shaped in no small part by the influence of other races.

[Dracoria]

The white 'race' has dominated history, according to some. Is this view ahistorical, whatever its (In my opinion, complete lack of) scientific merit? Whatever one's opinion on race, is it true that the cultural construct we generally recognize as the white race has dominated world events, striving forward where other races merely followed? Is it true that certain races have gotten the short end of the historical stick, so to speak, or is it simply that the bias of some leads them to apply current circumstances to history?

In case my tone didn't make it apparent, I'm not a fan of the idea. I think it's morally unsound and has no basis in history; not even in European history.

Discuss.

Just for a recent span did the white guys dominate history. Only a few centuries ago did Europe take a few pauses between the wars long enough to colonize or annex pretty much everyone else. Before the 1500s or so, the Mediterranean region (including parts of Europe), the Middle East and eastern Asia were probably the happening places. I'm guessing we read more about European history because it includes the origins of the white guys who made all those boats and cannons that they used to plant their flags everywhere. From what I've seen, it seems some history classes are focusing a bit more on southern and eastern Asia - or at the very least China and to some extent India - than they used to, which is probably a good step, especially now that that region is becoming rather powerful in the modern day.

[Norstal]

The white 'race' has dominated history, according to some. Is this view ahistorical, whatever its (In my opinion, complete lack of) scientific merit? Whatever one's opinion on race, is it true that the cultural construct we generally recognize as the white race has dominated world events, striving forward where other races merely followed? Is it true that certain races have gotten the short end of the historical stick, so to speak, or is it simply that the bias of some leads them to apply current circumstances to history?

In case my tone didn't make it apparent, I'm not a fan of the idea. I think it's morally unsound and has no basis in history; not even in European history.

Discuss.

I'm so glad China is rising in power so that we can finally end this bullshit about white people being the superior race.

[Anglo-California]

The white 'race' has dominated history, according to some. Is this view ahistorical, whatever its (In my opinion, complete lack of) scientific merit? Whatever one's opinion on race, is it true that the cultural construct we generally recognize as the white race has dominated world events, striving forward where other races merely followed? Is it true that certain races have gotten the short end of the historical stick, so to speak, or is it simply that the bias of some leads them to apply current circumstances to history?

In case my tone didn't make it apparent, I'm not a fan of the idea. I think it's morally unsound and has no basis in history; not even in European history.

Discuss.

I'm so glad China is rising in power so that we can finally end this bullshit about white people being the superior race.

WOO HOO AN AUTHORITARIAN STATE IS RISING IN POWER JUST SO I CAN FINALLY TELL THOSE WITH RACIST VIEWS, "I TOLD YOU SO".

Never mind the fact that a lot of the things that lead people to conclude that whites are superior are also true of Asians.

Now, you'd have a point if the Great Empire of the Australian Aborigine was a rising world power.

[Aahmerica]

Well i am no expert, and i am probably wrong, but as someone stated earlier white people have been in power in the short term.

Egypt had a massive civilization that ruled for what? 3000 years?

Aztecs were around since the 6th century only to be snuffed out about a thousand years later. I think.

The chinese, indian, persian empires lasted about 3000 years, too. I'm pretty sure.

White people just so happen to take the reigns now.

[Fartsniffage]

In my opinion the white race has been significantly dominant for centuries. For hundreds of years we've dictated and discovered, we've founded and fought and settled and brought civilization to significantly uncivilized areas of the world. The past when significant inventions were discovered by, for example, the Chinese and gunpowder were literal coincidences.

Gunpowder was only discovered and invented because a Chinese man mixed several things together trying to make bigger, more powerful fireworks. That isn't to say they're not as smart as we are, they often are just as smart, but it does mean that they're not all amazing inventors or superior people in comparison to my race. It was definitely coincidental.

They definitely can take credit for uncovering various important academic tools like algebra, but those were singular men, not the entire race of people, and often times those great thinkers were educated by Europeans and their tools taken and improved upon by Europeans to be more efficient in the future.

What have you invented?

[Terra Sector Union]

The ones that dominate history are huge societies and empires. They have existed in almost all continents around the world which the exception of Antarctica and maybe Australia (I don't know much about aboriginal australian history). I don't like to use the term "white people". I don't recognize modern racial constructs. Not anymore. But the the majority of the European continent was once home to a number of uncivilized tribes. Rome and other Mediterranean civilizations in Southern Europe, North Africa and the Middle East are the ones that defined Western Civilization. The societies that were built in Germania, British Isles, etc were the ones that followed ironically.