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by Sahrani DR » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:03 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:24 am
Ainin wrote:Resolution Respecting the Illegal Deployment of Forces by the Russian Federation against the Ukraine
Author: Alexander Ainin [NDP] | SIMBEDS Category: International Relations | Urgency: Utmost
Sponsors: Friedrich von Hohenzollern [RG], Robert Glasgia [MSP, Opp. Leader], Erich Malgrave [MSP]
James Brit [Ind.], Rupert Weinthal [ALM, VP], Emilia Nuckerberg [ALM, MoJ], Joshua Burchett [RG]
Emmanuel Esora [CP], John Geil [NDP]
The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,
Decrying the flagrant violation of both customary and statutory international law undertaken by the Russian Federation in its illegal deployment of forces in the Ukrainian devolved territory of Crimea,
Noting the Russian Federation's obligations under the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Declaration) and the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, both of which it has violated with impunity in the past few days,
Urging the government of Aurentina to stand with the people of Ukraine against Russian intimidation,
Hereby enacts the following resolution:
Regarding Diplomatic Missions
This resolution urges the Minister of Foreign Affairs to recall the head Aurentine diplomat currently stationed in the Russian Federation.
The resolution also urges the President of the Aurentine Commonwealth to declare the head of the Russian diplomatic mission in Aurentina persona non granta and to order him to vacate the territory of the Aurentine Commonwealth immediately.
Regarding Finances
This resolution urges and advises the Minister of the Exchequer to order all assets belonging to members of the Russian Federation Council that voted AYE to authorising a military deployment in the Ukraine and to members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, as well as his, frozen.
Other Repercussions
The resolution advises and urges the Ministers of Justice, the Interior and Defence to cancel any military or law enforcement exercise planned to be held in collaboration with Russian authorities.
Enactment
This resolution is affirmed to be non-binding on the Government of Aurentina.
by Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:35 am
by Oneracon » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:10 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:As I have said earlier. I would not be making an international precedent by ordering the freezing of assets due to the Members of Russian parmiament voting for during something that accordaing to their way of thinking is right. They have committed no crime with their votes so my official stance as minister of finance is that the following part of the current bill will not happen.
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by Phocidaea » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:30 pm
Phocidaea wrote:I believe this has enough sponsors to be added (I may be wrong):First Amendment to the 23 November Act
Urgency: Moderate | Author: Phocidaea (NDP) | Category: Law and Order
[b]Sponsors: Oneracon (RG), Resora (CP), Geilinor (NDP), Uiiop (NDP)
The Senate of Aurentina,
ACKNOWLEDGING the threat terrorism and organised crime pose to Aurentina;
APPALLED at the potential for abuse of power stemming from the following language in the 23 November Act:With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.
HEREBY AMENDS the act as follows:
1. The section reading:With the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, the Minister of the Interior may outlaw an organisation it deems terrorist or part of an organised crime network.
Shall be struck out, and replaced with the following:The Minister of the Interior, with the approval of a judge of the Supreme Court of Aurentina and the Chief Prosecutor of the Commonwealth Prosecution Service, may call a special session of the Senate to decide by simple majority whether to outlaw an organisation as a terrorist or organised crime organisation.
by Lamaredia » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:42 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:As I have said earlier. I would not be making an international precedent by ordering the freezing of assets due to the Members of Russian parmiament voting for during something that accordaing to their way of thinking is right. They have committed no crime with their votes so my official stance as minister of finance is that the following part of the current bill will not happen.
Regarding Finances
This resolution urges and advises the Minister of the Exchequer to order all assets belonging to members of the Russian Federation Council that voted AYE to authorising a military deployment in the Ukraine and to members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, as well as his, frozen.
by Lamaredia » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:43 am
Phocidaea wrote:Phocidaea wrote:I believe this has enough sponsors to be added (I may be wrong):First Amendment to the 23 November Act
Urgency: Moderate | Author: Phocidaea (NDP) | Category: Law and Order
[b]Sponsors: Oneracon (RG), Resora (CP), Geilinor (NDP), Uiiop (NDP)
The Senate of Aurentina,
ACKNOWLEDGING the threat terrorism and organised crime pose to Aurentina;
APPALLED at the potential for abuse of power stemming from the following language in the 23 November Act:
HEREBY AMENDS the act as follows:
1. The section reading:
Shall be struck out, and replaced with the following:
Queue pimping.
I will be most displeased if we get to the relevant category and this is excluded on a technicality. Is there any precedent for what happens if a bill is submitted before a category goes to vote but is ignored?
by Lamaredia » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:49 am
by Oneracon » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:52 am
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by Macedonian Grand Empire » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:59 am
Lamaredia wrote:Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:As I have said earlier. I would not be making an international precedent by ordering the freezing of assets due to the Members of Russian parmiament voting for during something that accordaing to their way of thinking is right. They have committed no crime with their votes so my official stance as minister of finance is that the following part of the current bill will not happen.
Regarding Finances
This resolution urges and advises the Minister of the Exchequer to order all assets belonging to members of the Russian Federation Council that voted AYE to authorising a military deployment in the Ukraine and to members of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, as well as his, frozen.
So because a murderer believes that he has done nothing wrong by murdering someone, you shouldn't prosecute them? Do you realize that that is what you are saying right now? Jesus Christ, you're unbelievable.
by The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:01 am
by Oneracon » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:05 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Lamaredia wrote:So because a murderer believes that he has done nothing wrong by murdering someone, you shouldn't prosecute them? Do you realize that that is what you are saying right now? Jesus Christ, you're unbelievable.
Continue to cry if you want at will. I will not freeze the funding of people due to them voting to do something that they believe it is right especially considering there have been not a single bullet fired from their vote.
What this will give is the pretext to any government to freeze the accounts of members of parliament or senators world wide due to them voting for something or they do not like or voting against something they would like to see happen.
Again. Not happening.
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by Macedonian Grand Empire » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:09 am
Oneracon wrote:Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Continue to cry if you want at will. I will not freeze the funding of people due to them voting to do something that they believe it is right especially considering there have been not a single bullet fired from their vote.
They've been firing "warning shots" at international monitors trying to enter Crimea.
What this will give is the pretext to any government to freeze the accounts of members of parliament or senators world wide due to them voting for something or they do not like or voting against something they would like to see happen.
Again. Not happening.
by The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:13 am
by Oneracon » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:15 am
The Nihilistic view wrote:One just ends up with a tit for tat, a lot of pissed off people on both sides and nothing changing. If anything it would make the Russians more stubborn.
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by Malgrave » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:16 am
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Continue to cry if you want at will. I will not freeze the funding of people due to them voting to do something that they believe it is right especially considering there have been not a single bullet fired from their vote.
What this will give is the pretext to any government to freeze the accounts of members of parliament or senators world wide due to them voting for something or they do not like or voting against something they would like to see happen.
Again. Not happening.
Frenequesta wrote:Well-dressed mad scientists with an edge.
by The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:17 am
Oneracon wrote:The Nihilistic view wrote:One just ends up with a tit for tat, a lot of pissed off people on both sides and nothing changing. If anything it would make the Russians more stubborn.
Taking into account that they just invaded a sovereign nation's territory abruptly and without warning, I think stubborn Russians are the least of our problems.
by Malgrave » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:20 am
Oneracon wrote:Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:Continue to cry if you want at will. I will not freeze the funding of people due to them voting to do something that they believe it is right especially considering there have been not a single bullet fired from their vote.
They've been firing "warning shots" at international monitors trying to enter Crimea.
What this will give is the pretext to any government to freeze the accounts of members of parliament or senators world wide due to them voting for something or they do not like or voting against something they would like to see happen.
Again. Not happening.
Frenequesta wrote:Well-dressed mad scientists with an edge.
by The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:28 am
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by Beta Test » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:59 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:I am launching a petition here to queue jump the constitution bill to top of the queue to be debated on immediately. According to the current REA such a bill petition needs 7 signatures to go before the president.
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