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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
Total votes : 159

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Anemos Major
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Postby Anemos Major » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:54 am

Klaytonia wrote:The picture from which I’ve used for the following example is the Tiger P. This was in competition with the Tiger One. Also with the engine output that was a mistake accidently made, not intended to be intentional by any means. Also the Tiger P’s engine was electric also was regarded as one of the most advanced German tanks. Sadly the tank never saw combat because of the over-the-top complexity.

As for the barrel that was another mistake and shall be changed.


It did see combat, albeit in a very limited capacity (sorry, didn't notice you were using the Porsche Tiger's stats - in a bit of a rush this morning).

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Complexity's one way of putting it - it was also hellishly unreliable (though not entirely through faults in its design). What it lacked in the needless complexity of the Tiger I's front-drive, it more than made up for with its faulty alternate drivetrain.
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Vitaphone Racing
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:56 am

The engine wasn't electric. It was a Porsche petrol engine powering two generators which drove two electric motors. Not exactly advanced either, this sort of drivetrain is very old and one which Porsche was comfortable with.
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Klaytonia
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Postby Klaytonia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:59 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Klaytonia wrote:The picture from which I’ve used for the following example is the Tiger P. This was in competition with the Tiger One. Also with the engine output that was a mistake accidently made, not intended to be intentional by any means. Also the Tiger P’s engine was electric also was regarded as one of the most advanced German tanks. Sadly the tank never saw combat because of the over-the-top complexity.

As for the barrel that was another mistake and shall be changed.


It did see combat, albeit in a very limited capacity (sorry, didn't notice you were using the Porsche Tiger's stats - in a bit of a rush this morning).

Image

Complexity's one way of putting it - it was also hellishly unreliable (though not entirely through faults in its design). What it lacked in the needless complexity of the Tiger I's front-drive, it more than made up for with its faulty alternate drivetrain.

The electrical engine was very unreliable. The thing was prone to fires which would cause havoc however, only one served as a command tank during the war.

The bodies of later production models where used for the Elephant tank destroyer. Which shared many mechanical problems.
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Postby Klaytonia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:00 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:The engine wasn't electric. It was a Porsche petrol engine powering two generators which drove two electric motors. Not exactly advanced either, this sort of drivetrain is very old and one which Porsche was comfortable with.

For it's time it was.

It was also very complex beyond all other details.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:08 am

Klaytonia wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:The engine wasn't electric. It was a Porsche petrol engine powering two generators which drove two electric motors. Not exactly advanced either, this sort of drivetrain is very old and one which Porsche was comfortable with.

For it's time it was.

Ferdinand Porsche made his first hybrid car in 1901. At first it was the better option because it was more reliable than mechanical couplings and multi-ratio gearboxes. This changed very quickly, but Porsche liked it and stuck with it.

It was also very complex beyond all other details.

According to whom? The complexity involved here is no greater than the drivetrain of the Tiger I.
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Questers
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Postby Questers » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:11 am

Klaytonia wrote:Sadly the tank never saw combat
Not really sad.
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Postby Immoren » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:55 am

WIP]
KvTSTPsV 2000 (Light Battle Tank 2000)
Type: Light Tank
Place of origin: Republic of Immoren


Service history
In service : 2013 – present


Production history
Designer:
Ground Forces Material Department
Valmet
Ensio Steelworks
Designed: 2000-2010
Manufacturer:Valmet
Ensio Steelworks
Produced: 2011-
Number built: Lots+ est


Specifications
Weight: 30 tonnes
Length: 7 m
Width: 3.5 m
Height: 2.40 m
Crew :3 (commander, driver, gunner)
Protection: 3rd Generation light composites, ERA tiles and APS
Main armament: 152mm Gun launcher
Secondary armament: 7.62 mm PKT coaxial machine gun, 12.7 mm Kord on commanders RWS.
Engine: Scania DSI 16, V8 Diesel, 810 hp (595 kW) 2300 Nm
Power/weight 14.6 hp/tonne
Transmission:Automatic , 5 forward, 1 reverse gears
Suspension: Torsion bar
Ground clearance:???
Fuel capacity:???
Speed: 70 km/h


Kevyt Taistelupanssarivaunu 2000 (Light battle tank 2000) is part of Immorean Armed Forces to create family of battle tanks for its own need as part of modernization of armed forces and for possible exports (other vehicles of "family" are 60 tonne Keskiraskas Taistelupanssarivaunu 2000 and 90 tonne Raskas Taistelupanssarivaunu 2000). KvTSTPsV 2000 in context of Immorean armed forces is meant to be part of motorized brigades equipment and act as light weight MBT. Lighter weight was chosen to reduce logistics foot print and to allow greater cross country manouvrebility at expense of protection, due to combination of light-weight large tracks and large power-to-weight ratio...
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Vitaphone Racing
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:58 am

810/30 = 27 not 14
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:16 am

viewtopic.php?p=18442159#p18442159
I don't quite recall how relativistic effects work and it's too early in the morning to bother, but I would figure that despite near-speed-of-light, the impact mass is very low (since the nearer to speed of light you come objects gain mass).
viewtopic.php?p=18443873#p18443873
As I understand it, Meggitt is primarily conceptualised to allow autoloader capability within the existing turret volume of the Abrams.
There's not much reason for an RL tank to go with it.
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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:17 am

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totally not a tag

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:24 am

Questers wrote:I wanted to post this on the last page but didn't get the chance.


(Image)

They just look too British.
But what's the patch on the left guy's shoulder?
Aqizithiuda wrote:
New Vihenia wrote:Tracking in to new thread. and hi Anemos good to see you.

what's being used as material for tank gun ?.. is it the same as rifle barrel ?

Why i'm asking ? Because i need the name and density of the material as input in my barrel making excel. So far i'm using 8250 kg/cubic meter, similar density as steel.


Isn't steel somewhere around 7850 kg/cubic meter?

High density steels probably top 8t/m3
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Registug
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Postby Registug » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:36 am

This is possibly the greatest OP of this thread
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Lamoni
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Postby Lamoni » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:40 am

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Ukrainian Army Excercise, unknown place and time.
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:42 am

Questers wrote:I wanted to post this on the last page but didn't get the chance.


(Image)

gogogo

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Questers wrote:I wanted to post this on the last page but didn't get the chance.


(Image)

They just look too British.
But what's the patch on the left guy's shoulder?

Kings Royal Hussars TRF.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:48 am

The brits drinking tea in a tank... My that's preposterous
You guys sure write fast
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:51 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:The brits drinking tea in a tank... My that's preposterous
You guys sure write fast

What else are we going to use our Boiling Vessels for?
Cooking?

You disgust me sir.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:22 am

Lamoni wrote:(Image)

Ukrainian Army Excercise, unknown place and time.

T-64BV. My favorite tank ever, by a pretty wide margin. All that ERA...

(this is definitely not a tag)
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Postby Questers » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:29 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:The brits drinking tea in a tank... My that's preposterous
You guys sure write fast
Its not a tank though I think.
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Riysa
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Postby Riysa » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:39 am

Just going to repost whether or not a 1200mm L/D 40 (Diameter is 30 mm), with frustrum length 40 mm and upper frustrum base diameter 10 mm, fired from a 157mm, sound in terms of the dimensions being good or off?

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Postby Ea90 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:44 am

Questers wrote:The best T-72?

(Image)

Hmm.
What's its designation?

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:51 am

Microwave oven in each tank?

Y/N
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Riysa
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Postby Riysa » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:54 am

Purpelia wrote:Microwave oven in each tank?

Y/N


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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:01 am

Microwave, and beer cooler knowing NS is standard in all tanks
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:04 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:Microwave, and beer cooler knowing NS is standard in all tanks

That's what I was thinking basically. I'd give the troops something to keep a drink cool and something to warm their rations in. I figure I can squeeze it into where the old hull storage for extra rounds was before safety standards changed for extra RP hilarity.
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Postby Riysa » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:12 am

Since it seems like people are posting T-72s, here's my contribution:

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Syrian T-72M1V with TURMS-T; a similar vehicle or this exact same one was also captured by rebel forces.

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Rebel M1 TURMS-T, this same tank has appeared in other videos, and it seems to be active with one of the largest Damascus-based battalions in the area.

From what I've understood a ton of their T-72s were upgraded or in the process of being upgraded to M1M standard, with some primarily attached to the Republican Guard being given TURMS-T, but I can't seem to find any photos of it, unless the ones labled as M1 are actually M1Ms.

Rebel M1V, without TURMS, but a nice look at the coaxial MG firing.

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