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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:53 am

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

That is because "battle rifle" is a widely-accepted term by most everyone and most everyone generally understands that it's referring to a certain class of firearm. The point I am trying to get across, however, is that going by their textbook definitions, those "battle rifles" would simply be a section of the "assault rifle" group. I use both terms, myself, but if we are going to get into technicalities and bring up textbook definitions, then that is what will be done.

*shakes head*
I've been trying for years to get everyone to just call any firearm they reference a 'boomstick', but nobody seems to take me seriously. I don't see why, it's a perfectly functional term for them.

I think it stems from a conspiracy against the great coiner of the term, Bruce Campbell, by those with less talent and chin than He.
But I shall not give up! Until 'Guns and Ammo' is re-termed 'Boomsticks and Ammo', until the 'NRA' changes to 'NBA' (this may require some copyright talks I think), and until 'gun control' is instead spoken of as 'Boomstick control', I shall struggle on!
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Postby Dilange » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:15 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:*shakes head*
I've been trying for years to get everyone to just call any firearm they reference a 'boomstick', but nobody seems to take me seriously. I don't see why, it's a perfectly functional term for them.

I think it stems from a conspiracy against the great coiner of the term, Bruce Campbell, by those with less talent and chin than He.
But I shall not give up! Until 'Guns and Ammo' is re-termed 'Boomsticks and Ammo', until the 'NRA' changes to 'NBA' (this may require some copyright talks I think), and until 'gun control' is instead spoken of as 'Boomstick control', I shall struggle on!
...
Quit laughing, guys. It's a serious proposal.


You have my 100% support.

Knowing Congress, they would probably get away with this for a decade or two.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:20 am

Dilange wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
You have my 100% support.

Knowing Congress, they would probably get away with this for a decade or two.

If enough people refer to guns as boomsticks for long enough then eventually the English language will adopt boomstick as the proper term.
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Postby Luveria » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:19 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dilange wrote:Knowing Congress, they would probably get away with this for a decade or two.

If enough people refer to guns as boomsticks for long enough then eventually the English language will adopt boomstick as the proper term.


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/boomstick

Definition of boomstick in English

noun

a rifle, pistol, or other portable gun:

Jones pleaded guilty to possessing a boomstick with criminal intent

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:30 pm

Firmador wrote:
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Well, depending what quality plastic your making them from. They can last from two shots to a hundred.


No.

They work, with regular ammunition, up to like six shots.

Weaker ammunition, is obviously higher but has its own drawbacks.

I would not be surprised if in twenty years we could produce a completely combat-quality firearm entirely from the 3D printing press (I assume that's what you guys are talking about?) or some other variant.


Well we already do make high quality weapons from printers... just not from plastic.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dilange wrote:Knowing Congress, they would probably get away with this for a decade or two.

If enough people refer to guns as boomsticks for long enough then eventually the English language will adopt boomstick as the proper term.


Least it's better than "gat" or "strap"

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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:44 pm

Luveria wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

The first all-metal firearm was 3D printed a couple weeks ago. It was a 1911(A1). They have not released to the public its value/price, but I'd assume it'll be the most expensive 1911 to ever be produced since 3D printing isn't an affordable hobby for your Average Joe.


Someday it will be. I am quite uninformed about 3D printing because I have not been keeping up with it, but aren't printed plastic firearms somewhat affordable for the average joe?


Yes. Though good luck finding someone who has a printer for it.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Roski wrote:Do you have proof or are you pulling this out of your anus? A city like Washington D.C. has very high gun control, and has very high murder rates. The United Kingdom and Australia also have high gun control, and high murder rates. Murder is so bad in the UK that police officers now carry military grade machine guns/assualt rifles, like the G36C or the MP7. However, Kennesaw, Georgia made it illegal for a long time not to own a gun equal or higher to a 9mm handgun. Murder, even violent crime, was next to unheard of in the city. Murder rates in Alaska are also quite low (well human on human anyway), and so are murder rates in Texas.

No, I'm dead-set certain you're pulling this out of your anus.

Washington is a terrible example of gun control because it's laughably easy to bring guns from a gun-legal area into the city. There is no point to restrict gun sales within open borders.

Murder rates in the UK and Australia are lower than the US. Australia's murder rate is one quarter of that of the United States along with the strictest gun laws.

Alaska and Texas are mostly rural areas. It's known that crime occurs more frequently in areas where population is more densely concentrated.

Come back with real proof pls.


California has the highest gun murders in the U.S.
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:50 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Someday it will be. I am quite uninformed about 3D printing because I have not been keeping up with it, but aren't printed plastic firearms somewhat affordable for the average joe?


Yes. Though good luck finding someone who has a printer for it.

The gun is not expensive the printer runs about 10,000 to 15,000 dollars right now.

Though for an expeirment I used kinko Fedex's 3d printer to make a firearm. Only cost me 50 dollars with the kinko's gold membership card. Then I got banned from the place for using their 3d printer to make a gun, I got to keep the gun though.
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:55 pm

greed and death wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Yes. Though good luck finding someone who has a printer for it.

The gun is not expensive the printer runs about 10,000 to 15,000 dollars right now.

Though for an expeirment I used kinko Fedex's 3d printer to make a firearm. Only cost me 50 dollars with the kinko's gold membership card. Then I got banned from the place for using their 3d printer to make a gun, I got to keep the gun though.


Is hanging around Kinko's going to become another tipoff toward a potential mass killer? Not saying I've seen seedy people making copies, but...
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Dracoria wrote:
greed and death wrote:The gun is not expensive the printer runs about 10,000 to 15,000 dollars right now.

Though for an expeirment I used kinko Fedex's 3d printer to make a firearm. Only cost me 50 dollars with the kinko's gold membership card. Then I got banned from the place for using their 3d printer to make a gun, I got to keep the gun though.


Is hanging around Kinko's going to become another tipoff toward a potential mass killer? Not saying I've seen seedy people making copies, but...

The seedy people making copies are likely grad students whose thesis is due in 1 hour.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If enough people refer to guns as boomsticks for long enough then eventually the English language will adopt boomstick as the proper term.


Least it's better than "gat" or "strap"

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That does seem rather unpleasant...
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:10 pm

Luveria wrote:
Out Of The Ashes wrote:I prefer the rules in my current location (although i'm barred from using them to my advantage.)

- Handguns (anything with a barrel <30cm and an overall length <60cm) are legal and it doesn't matter if there is a stock or not.

- No magazine capacity limits

- Keep it in the house along with 1000 rounds if you wish

So this is legally regarded to be a handgun :

(Image)

Firearm certificates are issued for them but they're easy for most to get

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I'm sorry, but that really doesn't look like a handgun.


Because it isn't.

Anything that has only one grip, a barrel shorter than 16 inches, and no stock can be marketed as a handgun as long as it has never had a stock or more than one grip during domestic manufacturing or importation into the US. ATF logic.

EDIT: Crap, I didn't even bother to read the post luveria was replying to. I immediately thought of an M92 PAP
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What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Roski » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:20 pm

PEW

PEW

PEW

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Postby Isles of the United Armed Forces » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:31 pm

Roski wrote:PEW

PEW

PEW

Grave digging

Hahahaha yeah pretty much sums it up.
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Postby Yulis » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:21 pm

From the point of view of someone who has never been to america, it all looks stupid.
Why are there so many shootings? Because you have so many guns! I can think of anyone I know closely who owns a gun. What do you need them for? Sure, that sounds really legit, some redneck needs a gun for "self defense" because there are lots of black people (that's a joke, not opinion BTW) who also have guns who really want to kill them. Really legit. Sure, let's allow people to have guns because anyone they decide to attack is also going to have a gun and can defend themself. But either way someone gets hurt. "Oh, but it's ok, the bad guy got hurt", sure, but someone got hurt. Return to racism, that black guy's got a gun, so he must be controlled by the devil and is trying to kill someone (yeah right) I must/it's my duty to (really?) protect that someone, I'm in the right, right? NO!!! You don't need guns, you don't need to ban them, but you certainly don't all need to have them.

If you don't feel confident separating the satire from the serious stuff, here it is:
serious in normal, satire (which is not my opinion) in bold
From the point of view of someone who has never been to america, it all looks stupid.
Why are there so many shootings? Because you have so many guns! I can think of anyone I know closely who owns a gun. What do you need them for? Sure, that sounds really legit, some redneck needs a gun for "self defense" because there are lots of black people (that's a joke, not opinion BTW) who also have guns who really want to kill them. Really legit. Sure, let's allow people to have guns because anyone they decide to attack is also going to have a gun and can defend themself. But either way someone gets hurt. "Oh, but it's ok, the bad guy got hurt", sure, but someone got hurt. Return to racism, that black guy's got a gun, so he must be controlled by the devil and is trying to kill someone (yeah right) I must/it's my duty to (really?) protect that someone, I'm in the right, right? NO!!! You don't need guns, you don't need to ban them, but you certainly don't all need to have them.

put it in a spoiler because it's a better read not separated, but, there are always some
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Postby Holochrome » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:26 pm

Gun control doesn't exactly work (at least not in the u.s., or even here in S.A.). Its a cultural thing.
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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:26 pm

Yulis wrote:From the point of view of someone who has never been to america, it all looks stupid.
Why are there so many shootings? Because you have so many guns! I can think of anyone I know closely who owns a gun. What do you need them for? Sure, that sounds really legit, some redneck needs a gun for "self defense" because there are lots of black people (that's a joke, not opinion BTW) who also have guns who really want to kill them. Really legit. Sure, let's allow people to have guns because anyone they decide to attack is also going to have a gun and can defend themself. But either way someone gets hurt. "Oh, but it's ok, the bad guy got hurt", sure, but someone got hurt. Return to racism, that black guy's got a gun, so he must be controlled by the devil and is trying to kill someone (yeah right) I must/it's my duty to (really?) protect that someone, I'm in the right, right? NO!!! You don't need guns, you don't need to ban them, but you certainly don't all need to have them.

If you don't feel confident separating the satire from the serious stuff, here it is:
serious in normal, satire (which is not my opinion) in bold
From the point of view of someone who has never been to america, it all looks stupid.
Why are there so many shootings? Because you have so many guns! I can think of anyone I know closely who owns a gun. What do you need them for? Sure, that sounds really legit, some redneck needs a gun for "self defense" because there are lots of black people (that's a joke, not opinion BTW) who also have guns who really want to kill them. Really legit. Sure, let's allow people to have guns because anyone they decide to attack is also going to have a gun and can defend themself. But either way someone gets hurt. "Oh, but it's ok, the bad guy got hurt", sure, but someone got hurt. Return to racism, that black guy's got a gun, so he must be controlled by the devil and is trying to kill someone (yeah right) I must/it's my duty to (really?) protect that someone, I'm in the right, right? NO!!! You don't need guns, you don't need to ban them, but you certainly don't all need to have them.

put it in a spoiler because it's a better read not separated, but, there are always some



I'm sure this thread will get locked (let's hope it does), but your post was pretty much hidden racism as far as I could tell.

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Postby Transnapastain » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:31 pm

Roski wrote:PEW

PEW

PEW

Grave digging


Wa

Wa

*** Warned for gravedigging ***

I could get it if you'd actually posted something useful, but the fact that you outright admit you posted for the purpose of gravedigging? Yeah, that was smart.

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