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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:12 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Zenoch wrote:None of those countries won both wars...... You could argue Britain, I guess.

If you knew your history, you would know that the US didn't actually do jack-shit to win WWII. It was the Soviets who won it, and any nation in the war could be theoretically considered a "champion".

Now back to the topic at hand.

The war would not have been won by the Allied without the US.

Perhaps Soviet could have won, but then again, they would face Germany alone. Since, Britain could not launch an invasion on it's own without US support in any way, not since Dunkirk and the constant German bombings. Without US financial and military support, Britain would not have made it. And this saying, despite myself being staunchly anti-American.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:16 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:"bomb India".

That was a joke.
Zenoch wrote:AMERICA: BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPIONS.




Don't see any European nations who can say that.

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Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Zenoch wrote:AMERICA: BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPIONS.




Don't see any European nations who can say that.

France2i, Britain0, German Empire13, Third Reich2u, Austro-Hungary13, Kingdom of Italy2i2u4, Fascist Italy2i2u4...

1Lost WWI
2iWas occupied by Germans, rescued by US
2uUltimately lost WWII
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4Fascist Italy was the Kingdom of Italy for its entire duration
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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:18 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:0Not a country, an island

Looks like you ran out of good arguments at the end, there.

Not seeing the relevance to the topic, though.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:19 pm

Esternial wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:0Not a country, an island[/size]

Looks like you ran out of good arguments at the end, there.

Well, at least he tried.

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Postby Zenoch » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:19 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:"bomb India".

That was a joke.
Zenoch wrote:AMERICA: BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPIONS.




Don't see any European nations who can say that.

The United Kingdom
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:France2i, Britain0, German Empire13, Third Reich2u, Austro-Hungary13, Kingdom of Italy2i2u4, Fascist Italy2i2u4...

1Lost WWI
2iWas occupied by Germans, rescued by US
2uUltimately lost WWII
3Dissolved in interwar period
4Fascist Italy was the Kingdom of Italy for its entire duration
0Not a country, an island


Might I add the US had to help the UK in both wars in order for them to be successful?
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:35 pm

Zenoch wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:That was a joke.

The United Kingdom

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Might I add the US had to help the UK in both wars in order for them to be successful?

#Off Topic #Threadjack #Unrelated

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:47 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Zenoch wrote:
Might I add the US had to help the UK in both wars in order for them to be successful?

#Off Topic #Threadjack #Unrelated

#YOLO #SWAG too?

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:06 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/athens_man_convicted_of_rape_r.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... n/4180963/

Horrific event, but not really a surprise. Alabama has historically been known as being an unstable and backwards area of the world, with pathetic law enforcement and a strong sexist society. To be honest, this is quite prevalent in America. It's unfortunate that life in the country is not easy for women, and being European doesn't make you a smaller target for abuses like this.

I would personally recommend economic sanctions on America until they can punish their rapists. However, it'll take something shocking as a famous foreign woman being raped by Americans to get the government off its ass.

Honestly at this point I seriously have to ask what the hell she was doing in America in the first place. I mean it's not like she is the first person to be raped or worse out there. And don't get me wrong. I am not blaming the victim here. All I am saying is that maybe if people stopped living there the impact on their economy would put some extra leverage on their government to grow up and step out of the middle ages. As small as that chance may be.

Why do people keep going to America, again? It's not like there's much to see there. A few sports stars, a big mountain. Everything else is a mid-modern first to third world jumble of slums and several shiny buildings. Not to mention all the rape and gun violence.

But perhaps one day these countries will finally become civilised. What do you say, NSG?

Sickening and horrible? Yes.

However, I doubt any country would have the guts to sanction the United States.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:49 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:#Off Topic #Threadjack #Unrelated

#YOLO #SWAG too?

Throw in some #2edgy4u

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:01 pm

Zenoch wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:France, Britain, German Empire, Third Reich, Austro-Hungary, Kingdom of Italy, Fascist Italy...

None of those countries won both wars...... You could argue Britain, I guess.

Brazil won WW2 and I don't remember we losing a war, maybe to the exception of Uruguayan independence, that was only created through British intervention though (neither us, nor Argentina + Uruguay, were sufficiently strong to beat the other side).

You lost in Vietnam pretty recently, all attempts to overthrow Cuba were extreme failures, and you had problems and a mixed-bag in Korea. I don't need to mention the so-called "War on Terror" and its effects so far.

So...
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Postby Tekania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:04 pm

The DA in the case is appealing it (again) as the re-sentencing didn't fix the original sentence's violation of law. What we have here is a problem with a trial judge.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:08 pm

At first I was confused. Then I was pleased by the satire.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:17 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Alien Space Bats wrote:You're clearly too full of hatred against Americans to see the REAL scandal here, so let me spell it out for you.

Criminal hires an attorney who is a childhood friend of the local judge. Judge gives his boyhood friend's client a slap on the wrist as punishment for a serious crime. Higher court overturns the sentence and remands it back to the judge. Judge spits in the face of the higher court and gives his boyhood friend's client a slightly different slap on the wrist.

The story here is NOT that America won't punish rape.

The story here is that a local judge has chosen to dispense with justice for the sake of a childhood friend and that the higher court can't bring him to heel.

Taking this, I'm going to try and explain my own point and why I made this thread to you lot in a serious way.

See how angry ASB was? This is how angry I get over and over and over again whenever India and rape get joined together as a bloody fucking joke, as a goddamn punchline. Then we get statements about "bomb India", "sanction India", "India is a shithole and barbaric" and etc. I repeatedly sit there, generally trying to ignore the leaks of stupidity from every word as this major, serious and dammed personal issue becomes inflated, mocked and shat on.

It is not correct, it is not at all fair, and it is not at all funny nor clever. It is ignorant, rage-inducing and idiotic. I would honestly like that when a rape in India is mentioned that it is debated without having to resort to stereotypes and generalisation. This is an incredibly important issue that needs discussion. But for the love of God, let's discuss it as fairly as it deserves.

And now you know how I feel whenever I see threads turn into America-bashing contests at the mere mention of the US. Yes, it sucks. Sometimes you do have to sit there and take it because giving true vent to your anger will get you warned, and no one wants that. You could have posted a reasonable response in the thread about the rape (or did you? I haven't looked back).

As for the rest of you, I'm not sure what this thread is about but it certainly isn't about who won the most wars or about how many hash-tag things we can make up.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:52 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.

I absolutely agree with you. America really needs to shape up it's standards, considering the danger to women in New York City versus the safety of New Delhi.

"The Delhi region had 495 murders in 2007, or 2.95 murders for every 100,000 people by the National Crime Records Bureau’s population estimates. In that same year, however, New York City had 5.94 murders per 100,000 people — and that was a year that New York City was named the safest big city in the United States. There’s a similar story for rape in 2007: 3.57 per 100,000 in New Delhi, 10.48 per 100,000 in New York."

It's really disheartening that a country with a rich culture and history like the United States suffers from such basic issues.


India underreports crime.

http://lawandotherthings.blogspot.com/2 ... se-of.html

This is especially true where rape is the topic.
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Postby Independent Canterbury » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:57 pm

You're comparing a shithole like India full of savages to Alabama? :palm: :roll:
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:12 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:You're comparing a shithole like India full of savages to Alabama? :palm: :roll:


He would be uniquely qualified to do so.

Certainly a lot more than you or me.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:17 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:You're comparing a shithole like India full of savages to Alabama? :palm: :roll:

Arguably, Alabama is the American version of one.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:24 pm

I want to know more details, the age of the defendant raises questions he might be on the border of crime committed while he was a minor.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:35 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Independent Canterbury wrote:You're comparing a shithole like India full of savages to Alabama? :palm: :roll:

Arguably, Alabama is the American version of one.

Mississippi is the shithole.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:42 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Arguably, Alabama is the American version of one.

Mississippi is the shithole.

But how else will we count?

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Postby Tekania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:44 pm

greed and death wrote:I want to know more details, the age of the defendant raises questions he might be on the border of crime committed while he was a minor.


The assaults occurred between 2007 and 2011, which would put Clem at about 18 during the first one, and 22 at the last one.
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Postby Conservative Conservationists » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:58 pm

Tekania wrote:
greed and death wrote:I want to know more details, the age of the defendant raises questions he might be on the border of crime committed while he was a minor.


The assaults occurred between 2007 and 2011, which would put Clem at about 18 during the first one, and 22 at the last one.

Unless the news stories are missing some serious and curable medical issues that have been treated thus reducing the threat, it is just pathetic.

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Postby Euroslavia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:05 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:You're comparing a shithole like India full of savages to Alabama? :palm: :roll:

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Postby Vetalia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:08 pm

I'm curious as to the circumstances of the case; it strikes me as very odd that a judge could suspend 35 years in prison and sentence the defendant to 5 years of probation without substantial justification.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:24 pm

Ponderosa wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:That's good satire if you ignore the difference between trends and isolated incidents and refuse to consider statistics.


This, basically.

Alabama is an isolated incident. India's rape problems are endemic when it comes to lack of enforcement. Great satire though.
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