NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Maryginia]

I say we vote on them one at a time, not 13 at a time, it's too easy to slip some stuff in it, and if a person is gone for a week at a time and there's a lot of bills in, well, they'll miss a lot of bills.

That's illegal and defeats the point of the bill and the procedure. And there's no such thing as "slipping some stuff in" if you take the time to look over everything and read it.

WHat not putting it in bulk voting, and I know that I for one, will sometimes be on for 9 days at a time, it's not common, but it happens.

[Welsh Cowboy]

That's illegal and defeats the point of the bill and the procedure. And there's no such thing as "slipping some stuff in" if you take the time to look over everything and read it.

WHat not putting it in bulk voting, and I know that I for one, will sometimes be on for 9 days at a time, it's not common, but it happens.

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

[Venaleria]

WHat not putting it in bulk voting, and I know that I for one, will sometimes be on for 9 days at a time, it's not common, but it happens.

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

Agreed.

[Maklohi Vai]

WHat not putting it in bulk voting, and I know that I for one, will sometimes be on for 9 days at a time, it's not common, but it happens.

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

Agreed, and very well put also.

[New Zepuha]

National Investigation Act

Drafted by: New Zepuha [PCP] | Sponsors: Ranbo [LibDem], Distruzio [CMP], Beta Test [LDP], Maryginia [CMP], Kalmath [PCP], Rhodesi [CMP], Fulflood [LibDem] | Urgency: Moderate | Classification: Security and Order

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Section 1 - Purpose of the Bill
In light of recent subversive and violent actions taken by certain groups within our nation, a need for a national investigative branch has been realized. Due to the termination of the NPF we have been left without a nationally equipped law enforcement agency. This new agency dubbed the NIB [National Investigation Bureau] shall be responsible for the investigative responsibilities and protection of the nation as a whole.

Section 2 - Responsibilities of the NIB
The NIB will be tasked with the following:

• Investigation of nation wide crimes
• Assisting local agencies not well enough equipped to support a full investigation
• Maintain a small response team for escalated conflict and warrant service
• Investigate subversive groups such as spy rings, terrorist organizations, and militia groups
• Investigate and enforce crimes deemed National Offenses by future legislation.
• Form special task groups of Agents to combat specific areas of crime

Section 3 - Jurisdictions and Funding
Being a law enforcement agency the NIB will be placed under the jurisdiction of the MoJ, and be funded by the budget approved to the MoJ by the government in which it serves under.
A) The NIB shall be granted jurisdiction to make arrests anywhere in the nation, within legal grounds and without violation of rights.
B) Arrests of foreign persons should be immediately reported to the nearest embassy/consulate of said person's nationality.

Section 4 - Director of the NIB
The director of the NIB shall be an appointed position, through a nomination process via the MoJ. The director will serve as head of the NIB and be under the direction of the Minister of Justice, while having autonomy to make his own decisions. At anytime the Director may be removed from his position by the MoJ or by vote via a Presidential motion/petition. The Director serves a life term until resignation of removal by vote or disqualification by the MoJ.
Responsibilities of the Director of the NIB:

• Set clear goals for the NIB to obtain and achieve
• Author warrants to be submitted for approval
• Review warrants requested by agents
• Establish the hierarchy of agents
• Establish equipment standards and usage per approval by the MoJ
• Run day to day office activities of the NIB
• Effectively manage a system of operations to bring about the demise of organized crime

Section 5 - Nomination Process
When nominated by the MoJ a candidate will have to undergo interview by the MoJ and a background check. Upon completion and approval by the MoJ, the Director will take office and serve out his position until deemed unfit by the MoJ of by petition to the President. A candidate can be nominated for review by any Senator.

Section 6 - Definitions
Defining any term used above.

MoJ - Minister of Justice
NIB - National Investigation Bureau
National Agent - Agent serving under the Government Agency
NPF - National Police Force
National Offense - Crime deemed punishable if committed anywhere in the nation.

Hereby passes the above bill and establishes the NIB.

This now has adequate support to be added into the queue. Security and Order.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Added.

It's safety and order by the way.

[Great Nepal]

Can we now actually debate/ vote on safety and order omnibus since change wont happen (if ever) until amendment passes?

[Byzantium Imperial]

WHat not putting it in bulk voting, and I know that I for one, will sometimes be on for 9 days at a time, it's not common, but it happens.

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

You do realize a backlog is actually beneficial to the senate right? While a queue of 30 or more is rediculous, the central tenant of this senate is to pass bill. Therefore, if we stretch it out, this rp lasts longer and we dont exhuast all the bills first (mind you, one day people are going to run out of ideas for a month long span)

[Welsh Cowboy]

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

You do realize a backlog is actually beneficial to the senate right? While a queue of 30 or more is rediculous, the central tenant of this senate is to pass bill. Therefore, if we stretch it out, this rp lasts longer and we dont exhuast all the bills first (mind you, one day people are going to run out of ideas for a month long span)

It should not take months to pass a bill. Of course there should, and always be, a queue. But it should be limited as much as possible. After all, people can write a bill, and then it take months to pass, so they slowly drift away. A bill should be able to get to vote within two or three weeks. That's reasonable to expect.

And I think you'd be surprised how many bills can be written. Have you seen the US tax code? Plus, I haven't seen any lack of bill ideas. The coffee shop is still pumping.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

The Senate has enough of a backlog without voting on every bill individually. That would expand the queue to ludicrous levels.

And no offense, but I don't think we should cater to people not logging on for 9 days.

You do realize a backlog is actually beneficial to the senate right? While a queue of 30 or more is rediculous, the central tenant of this senate is to pass bill. Therefore, if we stretch it out, this rp lasts longer and we dont exhuast all the bills first (mind you, one day people are going to run out of ideas for a month long span)

Each senator in the United States Senate is expected to write and submit about 50 bills each term. With that amount, it's easy to see that there's a pretty endless amount of ideas here. Also, each queue category does not have 30 bills in it. Max 15.

We are debating right now on a different topic than this anyways. Please return conversation to the Senate Procedures Category.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Can we now actually debate/ vote on safety and order omnibus since change wont happen (if ever) until amendment passes?

Thank you!

[Polvia]

Might I have a link to the legislation in the omnibus?

[Free South Califas]

I second this position. While I appreciate the authors' intent, I don't think this bill does anything to significantly boost the success of elections.

As do I, it really creates a way to kill votes rather than anything else. If someone forgets to register, well flap jacks they can't vote! Why in the world does a Senator need to register to vote anyway?

I was starting to wonder if I was going out of my mind. Why the hell would we require a Senator to register before voting? Surely being elected to the Senate is enough?
(Nay on Voting Registration)

[Free South Califas]

Senate Procedures
To deal with issues pertinent to the procedures and actions of the senate

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- Voter Registration Act
- Prevention of Corruption Act
- Proxy Voting Act
- Impartial Polling Places Act
- Presidential Election Procedures Act
- Voting Reform Act
- First Amendment to the Ministry Foundation Act
- First Amendment to the Second Constitution of the Senate

[Britanno]

Might I have a link to the legislation in the omnibus?

The entire queue is here.

[Fulflood]

We're nearing the 500-page mark. It might be a good idea to copy all the bills until the next thread comes up (perhaps one category each), for ease of use, and to put easily in the archives.

[Venaleria]

I am going to ask that we put up the queue as the first posts in the new thread.

Also, I am leaving for Wyoming tomorrow and will be there until the 5th. As a result, I probably won't be able to get online very often for the next week or so. Therefore, starting on July 30th, 12:00 am EDT, I will instate Free South Califas as Interim President pro Tempore until August 6th, 12:00 am EDT. This is so that order may be kept in the chamber while I'm gone. Free South Califas will also have access to the PpT account if anything needs to be added to the queue. I will try to get on at some points in order to help with the queue, switching threads, and whatnot. Thanks!

[NSG Senate Administrators]

Since we are just 3 pages off getting locked, I will start new chambers thread. No one post there till someone with access to PpT account posts first posts with queues, so we will always have constant queues in front page.

[Pesda]

I have a question about IPPA. Section 16 says

Partisan officials may not campaign within a 500m radius of polling places.

Does that include before election day, and if so, why? I understand the intention of this bill, but I think that partisan officials should be able to knock on doors or give out leaflets to houses surrounding the polling place, at least before the election, like they would anywhere else. I agree though that people shouldn't stand outside the polling place asking people to vote for them.

[NSG Senate Administrators]

New Senate chambers thread, dont post there yet until someone with PpT account posts all of the queues there. Untill then, this thread is still in use.
- GN

[Venaleria]

Will do now.

[Senate President pro Tempore]

Done.

[Maklohi Vai]

Done.

Ok, should we ask for an archive on this one?

[Great Nepal]

Awesome, thanks. I am going to open that thread, since we have just moved on to new system it might be better to just do it in new thread.
(Oh and who ever fixed that two line image, thanks I was tiring to do that but didn't work.)

[Venaleria]

Done.

Ok, should we ask for an archive on this one?

I think so, I will if we need to.