What? Time for ANOTHER Eternal Thread Already?

[West Vandengaarde]

The hell are you on about?
Are you one of those twits who thinks you can be biologically male and psychologically female? Because that's utter tripe and anyone who believes it is some deranged fool.

Of course you can... You can be born a male but feel like you're a girl, and therefore act and dress like one. I don't see anything wrong about that.

The key thing here is "feel like". I can feel like I'm a goddamned fish but that doesn't make the concept of species irrelevant.

[Luziyca]

Oh... I hope that Stephistan opens the next Eternal Thread. Or Sirroco.

[Horusland]

Seriously, just because I WRITE IN CAPS does not mean that it's the end of the world, or that I'm actually yelling. And you are only trying to make me mad. Don't be a jerk. Please.

Esternial isn't being a jerk, just stating a relevant fact. This thread isn't the world.

Did I say such a thing? No. Your name is Tiami. I'm just stating a fact. You never posted that, but I'm just stating a fact.

I never said that this thread is the world. Whoever thinks that is insane.

[Yoite]

No, they aren't. There are plenty of women with penises and men with vaginas. Males and females are different, but that has fuckall to do with these social roles we thrust on people based on their genitals.

The hell are you on about?
Are you one of those twits who thinks you can be biologically male and psychologically female? Because that's utter tripe and anyone who believes it is some deranged fool.

;_;

[Horusland]

Seriously, just because I WRITE IN CAPS does not mean that it's the end of the world, or that I'm actually yelling. And you are only trying to make me mad. Don't be a jerk. Please.

Then why write in caps at all?

Drama effect. Not very cool, eh? Can you do better?

[Individuality-ness]

*sigh* I think I'm going on a depressing spiral. I should leave before this thread becomes more morbid because of me. Or at the very least, I should shut up about myself and speak in hypothetical, like I often do.

You need hug?

I need to get away from the world in general. Of course, I can't.

Halting this discussion lest it becomes morbid. It's unfair to everyone else.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Of course you can... You can be born a male but feel like you're a girl, and therefore act and dress like one. I don't see anything wrong about that.

The key thing here is "feel like". I can feel like I'm a goddamned fish but that doesn't make the concept of species irrelevant.

Men and women are social-psychological roles that are arbitrarily defined and enforced ruthlessly by people too ignorant to know better. Male and female, sex, is what you're thinking about, which has absolutely nothing to do with gender.

[Hathradic States]

I don't like the idea of gender. It seems so... stupid. We could have based gender on knock knees or finger length and had it be just as valid a concept.

That's probably the most unscientific and lame thing I've ever heard.
How the hell can you think gender is pointless when there are clear psychological and physical differences between males and females? Are you some new-age pretentious fool who sees Pollock paintings as revelations and guides to the path of humanity?

Well, it is Nemmy...

[Esternial]

No, because unlike the difference races men and women are structurally different

No, they aren't. There are plenty of women with penises and men with vaginas. Males and females are different, but that has fuckall to do with these social roles we thrust on people based on their genitals.

Male and female were used to describe penises and vaginas, my good friend.

Whether you 'see' yourself as a male or female is just because you are limited by your views on sexes. Determining you as a woman while having male genitals is - in my book - utter bollocks. You're a person with male genitals, male or female doesn't apply on how you view yourself.

But if you say I'm a female in a male body, then you're limiting yourself by using those social roles you seem to hate.

[Tiami]

Esternial isn't being a jerk, just stating a relevant fact. This thread isn't the world.

Did I say such a thing? No. Your name is Tiami. I'm just stating a fact. You never posted that, but I'm just stating a fact.

I never said that this thread is the world. Whoever thinks that is insane.

What is underlined is completely irrelevant. And to mention, my name is Chris.

[West Vandengaarde]

The key thing here is "feel like". I can feel like I'm a goddamned fish but that doesn't make the concept of species irrelevant.

Men and women are social-psychological roles that are arbitrarily defined and enforced ruthlessly by people too ignorant to know better. Male and female, sex, is what you're thinking about, which has absolutely nothing to do with gender.

No, they're not. You're simply deranged and detaches from reality. Women and men are distinct things here. Address my post instead of continuing to post your nonsense.

[Noobubersland]

Are you still drunk?

Nope. Sober as a judge.

Ah, well then people can think that they're of another gender, but until they go about gender-reassignment surgery they won't actually be that gender

[Esternial]

Then why write in caps at all?

Drama effect. Not very cool, eh? Can you do better?

Why bother with drama at all, this forum is saturated with it already.

[Horusland]

Did I say such a thing? No. Your name is Tiami. I'm just stating a fact. You never posted that, but I'm just stating a fact.

I never said that this thread is the world. Whoever thinks that is insane.

What is underlined is completely irrelevant. And to mention, my name is Chris.

It was an example, I was referring to your nation name, and thanks for overlooking everything except the least important part of the post.

[New England and The Maritimes]

No, they aren't. There are plenty of women with penises and men with vaginas. Males and females are different, but that has fuckall to do with these social roles we thrust on people based on their genitals.

Male and female were used to describe penises and vaginas, my good friend.

Whether you 'see' yourself as a male or female is just because you are limited by your views on sexes. Determining you as a woman while having male genitals is - in my book - utter bollocks. You're a person with male genitals, male or female doesn't apply on how you view yourself.

But if you say I'm a female in a male body, then you're limiting yourself by using those social roles you seem to hate.

I agree. I don't like gender, hence I don't use it. Other people, if they would prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman, I will use the words they want me to. Everyone is a person to me, though.

[Yuktova]

Has anyone else notice that politicians are extremely vague in their debates and speechs?

[Horusland]

Drama effect. Not very cool, eh? Can you do better?

Why bother with drama at all, this forum is saturated with it already.

Didn't notice any drama until now.

[Yoite]

Ugh, so much work, I meant lies--> "and people in the real world don't want to deal with the mess that I am"

They don't.

Oh....well those people don't have any idea what they are talking about....any idea whatsoever...they're mean.

[Homosexy]

Everybody needs to chill before I throw weed at them or something.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Nope. Sober as a judge.

Ah, well then people can think that they're of another gender, but until they go about gender-reassignment surgery they won't actually be that gender

No. Gender is not sex. You're thinking of biological sex, not gender. Completely different things.

[Esternial]

Male and female were used to describe penises and vaginas, my good friend.

Whether you 'see' yourself as a male or female is just because you are limited by your views on sexes. Determining you as a woman while having male genitals is - in my book - utter bollocks. You're a person with male genitals, male or female doesn't apply on how you view yourself.

But if you say I'm a female in a male body, then you're limiting yourself by using those social roles you seem to hate.

I agree. I don't like gender, hence I don't use it. Other people, if they would prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman, I will use the words they want me to. Everyone is a person to me, though.

Indeed, but if you show me your wiener, I will refer to your sex as male on my chart and make you pee in that plastic cup.

[Tiami]

What is underlined is completely irrelevant. And to mention, my name is Chris.

It was an example, I was referring to your nation name, and thanks for overlooking everything except the least important part of the post.

Oh, I didn't overlook. There was no need to reply.

[The Jahistic Unified Republic]

Everybody needs to chill before I throw weed at them or something.

I cant smoke it though... *sad face*

[New England and The Maritimes]

Everybody needs to chill before I throw weed at them or something.

I only know one person who isn't chill right now.

[West Vandengaarde]

Male and female were used to describe penises and vaginas, my good friend.

Whether you 'see' yourself as a male or female is just because you are limited by your views on sexes. Determining you as a woman while having male genitals is - in my book - utter bollocks. You're a person with male genitals, male or female doesn't apply on how you view yourself.

But if you say I'm a female in a male body, then you're limiting yourself by using those social roles you seem to hate.

I agree. I don't like gender, hence I don't use it. Other people, if they would prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman, I will use the words they want me to. Everyone is a person to me, though.

And if I see myself as a goldfish? Species are just a social construct set by reality because mentally I might not be human; and what is human but a social label?