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Greater Pokarnia
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Tue May 21, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm nitpicking here, but it should say "6 abstentions registered" instead of "6 abstains registered".
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The Treorai
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Postby Silent Majority » Tue May 21, 2013 3:42 pm

Nay on SLA
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Mishmahig
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Greater Pokarnia
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Tue May 21, 2013 3:44 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:Suggestions for other omnibus bills:

Since the Universal Healthcare Act [Modified] and the Public Education Act both deal with government-run services available to the public, I motion they be ommnibussed into the Public Services Act.

As the Electricity Production Act and Energy for the Future Act both deal with the environmental safety and sustainability of our nation's energy supply, I motion they be omnibussed into the Energy Production Act.


I proposed this a while back and it got as far as getting sixthed. I'm not sure how many approvals are necessary to make an omnibus bill, however.
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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 3:47 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Chestaan » Tue May 21, 2013 3:48 pm

Oh great, this damn bill again. Can we please stop trying to pass the SLA? It's just wasting time which could be used for much more important legislation.

NAY on the SLA.
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue May 21, 2013 3:50 pm

A Strong NAY on the SLA.
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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue May 21, 2013 3:52 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Greater Pokarnia wrote:Suggestions for other omnibus bills:

Since the Universal Healthcare Act [Modified] and the Public Education Act both deal with government-run services available to the public, I motion they be ommnibussed into the Public Services Act.

As the Electricity Production Act and Energy for the Future Act both deal with the environmental safety and sustainability of our nation's energy supply, I motion they be omnibussed into the Energy Production Act.


I proposed this a while back and it got as far as getting sixthed. I'm not sure how many approvals are necessary to make an omnibus bill, however.


It's seventhed and admin approval, I think.
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Postby The Realm of God » Tue May 21, 2013 3:56 pm

A booming Brian Blessed style NO! for the SLA.
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Maklohi Vai
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue May 21, 2013 3:58 pm

The SLA?

No.
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Tue May 21, 2013 4:33 pm

Current Vote Tally of the SLA:

Yea: 1 (4%)
Nay: 24 (96%)

Total votes: 25

6 Abstentions registered

The voting period will end May 23 at 12:32 PM EDT.
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Costa Alegria
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:36 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
What happened to all those paramilitary bills that were kicking around? I'm fairly certain a few of those got fifthed---were they withdrawn?

Links please?


Here.
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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:37 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Links please?


Here.

Links from someone I don't despise?
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:37 pm

I vote for the SLA and express my intense amazement that such a stupid mistake is being made again by the senators that voted against it.
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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:38 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:I vote for the SLA and express my intense amazement that such a stupid mistake is being made again by the senators that voted against it.

I change my vote to nay.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:39 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Here.

Links from someone I don't despise?


Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Tue May 21, 2013 4:39 pm


What happened to the Provisional Criminal Code? You know, the resolution that criminalized murder while we worked on actually passing laws that focused on a comprehensive penal code and code of criminal justice?

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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Links from someone I don't despise?


Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.

Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.

Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?

Both of you, knock it off.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 21, 2013 4:42 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.

Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?


Just add it to the queue. My patience is growing thin. Do your damned job or you will face action.
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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:42 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?

Both of you, knock it off.

Ohhhh! So he is allowed to imply that I am gay, but I can't say that I despise him? This makes perfect sense! Thank you, always so dependable administrative staff.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Tue May 21, 2013 4:43 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Hmmm... Links from someone I don't despise?


Just add it to the queue. My patience is growing thin. Do your damned job or you will face action.

Do something then.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue May 21, 2013 4:43 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Both of you, knock it off.

Ohhhh! So he is allowed to imply that I am gay, but I can't say that I despise him? This makes perfect sense! Thank you, always so dependable administrative staff.

That's why I said "both of you".

Two wrongs don't make a right, and seriously, you both need to calm down.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Tue May 21, 2013 4:44 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Links from someone I don't despise?


Don't be immature about this and add it to the damned queue. Or I will seek disciplinary action.

He's not an official queue maker, he can stop doing the queue whenever he wants or he can do whatever he wants with it.
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