Free the nipple:should women be able to go topless in public

[Greed and Death]

AS a compromise I propose we adopt the Ferangi system where women are not allowed to wear clothes.

[Dyakovo]

Well, if it were to become the norm, I'd be unable to leave the house.

Because I like breasts, like, a lot, ever since i was little. If women were to walk around topless, I'd stare. Therefore, I'd never leave the house.
God forbid I offend someone.

Or you could learn to not be a creep and not stare. I quite like breasts myself, have seen bare ones in public. Didn't stare.

[Arbolvine]

AS a compromise I propose we adopt the Ferangi system where women are not allowed to wear clothes.

That would only widen gender inequality, but I still love that suggestion.

[Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire]

AS a compromise I propose we adopt the Ferangi system where women are not allowed to wear clothes.

No. No no no.

I have seen many women who I have zero interest in seeing undressed. Ever.

E V E R.

[The Derpy Dominion]

Why should it not? Because you and your subjective morals say it's wrong? Who are you to tell people what they can and can't look like in public?

Uh...am I allowed to have an opinion? Or do you run this world?

[Grainne Ni Malley]

I have lived so long with the shame of my mountainous breasts that I do not think I would have the brevity to walk in public topless even if it were legal.

My damage is done, but go on young ones! Be free! Also bring a fanny pack with mace.

[Kumuri]

Yes. Why not? Unless of course you just don't like nipple. But then that applies to everyone with nipples regardless of sex.

[Scomagia]

Well, if it were to become the norm, I'd be unable to leave the house.

Because I like breasts, like, a lot, ever since i was little. If women were to walk around topless, I'd stare. Therefore, I'd never leave the house.
God forbid I offend someone.

Well, being a lech is rather offensive, yes. Maybe you should learn how to behave in a civilized society.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

I always find it amusing how people from the US (not all but alot) are obsessed with breasts compared to people from (not all but alot) Europe.
Breasts are breasts, nothing to be obsessed with nor is there anything special about them. Women should just be allowed to walk topless, after three summers nobody will notice it anymore.

[Old Tyrannia]

Different societies have different standards as to whst constitutes appropriate dress. In Western culture, breasts have long been considered taboo, and people have a social responsibility to conform to that taboo as part of basic etiquette. There is no such taboo against men showing their chests in public, although given the choice I'd prefer to return to older standards of modesty and make shirtlessness taboo altogether outside of very specific situations. There's few things more revolting than fat, heavily tattooed men wandering around shirtless in public places on hot days.

[Dyakovo]

Different societies have different standards as to whst constitutes appropriate dress. In Western culture, breasts have long been considered taboo, and people have a social responsibility to conform to that taboo as part of basic etiquette. There is no such taboo against men showing their chests in public, although given the choice I'd prefer to return to older standards of modesty and make shirtlessness taboo altogether outside of very specific situations. There's few things more revolting than fat, heavily tattooed men wandering around shirtless in public places on hot days.

No, there's no social responsibility to adhere to pointless taboos.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Different societies have different standards as to whst constitutes appropriate dress. In Western culture, breasts have long been considered taboo, and people have a social responsibility to conform to that taboo as part of basic etiquette. There is no such taboo against men showing their chests in public, although given the choice I'd prefer to return to older standards of modesty and make shirtlessness taboo altogether outside of very specific situations. There's few things more revolting than fat, heavily tattooed men wandering around shirtless in public places on hot days.

So, you're saying that gay people have done the wrong thing for showing themselves as gay people? You know, becouse it was a taboo thing and something with social responsibility...

[Greed and Death]

AS a compromise I propose we adopt the Ferangi system where women are not allowed to wear clothes.

No. No no no.

I have seen many women who I have zero interest in seeing undressed. Ever.

E V E R.

Old fat women need love too, thats where you come in.

[Old Tyrannia]

Different societies have different standards as to whst constitutes appropriate dress. In Western culture, breasts have long been considered taboo, and people have a social responsibility to conform to that taboo as part of basic etiquette. There is no such taboo against men showing their chests in public, although given the choice I'd prefer to return to older standards of modesty and make shirtlessness taboo altogether outside of very specific situations. There's few things more revolting than fat, heavily tattooed men wandering around shirtless in public places on hot days.

So, you're saying that gay people have done the wrong thing for showing themselves as gay people? You know, becouse it was a taboo thing and something with social responsibility...

That depends entirely on what you mean by "showing themselves as gay people." People should not be expected to lie about their sexuality if asked, or go out of their way to hide it. But sexuality in general shouldn't be flaunted in public; it's impolite and discourteous to do so, just as it is to wander around shirtless.

[Destiny Island]

Go ahead. I hope you're used to being ogled at if you do though, because that's probably going to happen quite often if you do.

[Dyakovo]

So, you're saying that gay people have done the wrong thing for showing themselves as gay people? You know, becouse it was a taboo thing and something with social responsibility...

That depends entirely on what you mean by "showing themselves as gay people." People should not be expected to lie about their sexuality if asked, or go out of their way to hide it. But sexuality in general shouldn't be flaunted in public; it's impolite and discourteous to do so, just as it is to wander around shirtless.

It's neither impolite nor discourteous to wander around shirtless.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

So, you're saying that gay people have done the wrong thing for showing themselves as gay people? You know, becouse it was a taboo thing and something with social responsibility...

That depends entirely on what you mean by "showing themselves as gay people." People should not be expected to lie about their sexuality if asked, or go out of their way to hide it. But sexuality in general shouldn't be flaunted in public; it's impolite and discourteous to do so, just as it is to wander around shirtless.

Being gay was a taboo, you're saying that gay people had the social repsonsibility to hide it, which is just wrong. They are free to show who they are and what they stand for. Same goes for people that want to walk around without a shirt, or anything for that matter. There's nothing to see that nobody has ever seen before. A naked body isn't special in any way and nobody on this earth can say that he/she never saw one before. I really don't see what problem you have with naked or semi-naked people. But i get the feeling you're one of those people from the US that gets all crazy with just a boob.

[Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire]

No. No no no.

I have seen many women who I have zero interest in seeing undressed. Ever.

E V E R.

Old fat women need love too, thats where you come in.

I'm not saying I have an issue with old, fat, or old and fat women going topless in an environment that accepts the same from men.

I just have no interest in seeing all women all naked all the time.

Nein.

[Old Tyrannia]

That depends entirely on what you mean by "showing themselves as gay people." People should not be expected to lie about their sexuality if asked, or go out of their way to hide it. But sexuality in general shouldn't be flaunted in public; it's impolite and discourteous to do so, just as it is to wander around shirtless.

Being gay was a taboo, you're saying that gay people had the social repsonsibility to hide it, which is just wrong. They are free to show who they are and what they stand for. Same goes for people that want to walk around without a shirt, or anything for that matter. There's nothing to see that nobody has ever seen before. A naked body isn't special in any way and nobody on this earth can say that he/she never saw one before. I really don't see what problem you have with naked or semi-naked people. But i get the feeling you're one of those people from the US that gets all crazy with just a boob.

Call me whatever you want, but don't you dare accuse me of being a Yank. And stop ignoring my arguments. You've made no attempt to explain why someone choosing to walk around without a shirt on is any way comparable to someone being born gay. Unless you're one of those people from the US that insist that being gay is a choice, your argument is extremely flawed. One can't help but be gay; one can certainly help being shirtless, and if they are in public they ought to do so, just as gay people (and straight people) are free to do as they wish in their own homes but may reasonably be expected to maintain a degree of decorum when in a public space. You may have no problem with people doing whatever they like in public, but unless you are resident in some nudist free love commune somewhere you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate. As a courtesy to other members of that society you ought to conform. Not doing so is anti-social behaviour.

[Stormwind-City]

Different societies have different standards as to whst constitutes appropriate dress. In Western culture, breasts have long been considered taboo, and people have a social responsibility to conform to that taboo as part of basic etiquette. There is no such taboo against men showing their chests in public, although given the choice I'd prefer to return to older standards of modesty and make shirtlessness taboo altogether outside of very specific situations. There's few things more revolting than fat, heavily tattooed men wandering around shirtless in public places on hot days.

Older standereds of modesty would be toplessness.

[Twilight Imperium]

Call me whatever you want, but don't you dare accuse me of being a Yank. And stop ignoring my arguments. You've made no attempt to explain why someone choosing to walk around without a shirt on is any way comparable to someone being born gay. Unless you're one of those people from the US that insist that being gay is a choice, your argument is extremely flawed. One can't help but be gay; one can certainly help being shirtless, and if they are in public they ought to do so, just as gay people (and straight people) are free to do as they wish in their own homes but may reasonably be expected to maintain a degree of decorum when in a public space. You may have no problem with people doing whatever they like in public, but unless you are resident in some nudist free love commune somewhere you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate. As a courtesy to other members of that society you ought to conform. Not doing so is anti-social behaviour.

No.

[Old Tyrannia]

Call me whatever you want, but don't you dare accuse me of being a Yank. And stop ignoring my arguments. You've made no attempt to explain why someone choosing to walk around without a shirt on is any way comparable to someone being born gay. Unless you're one of those people from the US that insist that being gay is a choice, your argument is extremely flawed. One can't help but be gay; one can certainly help being shirtless, and if they are in public they ought to do so, just as gay people (and straight people) are free to do as they wish in their own homes but may reasonably be expected to maintain a degree of decorum when in a public space. You may have no problem with people doing whatever they like in public, but unless you are resident in some nudist free love commune somewhere you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate. As a courtesy to other members of that society you ought to conform. Not doing so is anti-social behaviour.

No.

I'm bowled over by your spectacular debating skills.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

Being gay was a taboo, you're saying that gay people had the social repsonsibility to hide it, which is just wrong. They are free to show who they are and what they stand for. Same goes for people that want to walk around without a shirt, or anything for that matter. There's nothing to see that nobody has ever seen before. A naked body isn't special in any way and nobody on this earth can say that he/she never saw one before. I really don't see what problem you have with naked or semi-naked people. But i get the feeling you're one of those people from the US that gets all crazy with just a boob.

Call me whatever you want, but don't you dare accuse me of being a Yank. And stop ignoring my arguments. You've made no attempt to explain why someone choosing to walk around without a shirt on is any way comparable to someone being born gay. Unless you're one of those people from the US that insist that being gay is a choice, your argument is extremely flawed. One can't help but be gay; one can certainly help being shirtless, and if they are in public they ought to do so, just as gay people (and straight people) are free to do as they wish in their own homes but may reasonably be expected to maintain a degree of decorum when in a public space. You may have no problem with people doing whatever they like in public, but unless you are resident in some nudist free love commune somewhere you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate. As a courtesy to other members of that society you ought to conform. Not doing so is anti-social behaviour.

Why on earth should i explain myself for your redicilous claims?
"you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate"
You obviously hate the ones that live their own lives the way they wan to. Instead you prefer to see some black and white slavery where everybody followes the "rules"
Alot of stuff used to be taboo once, but aren't anymore (tattoo's, divorce, not going to church, Fornication ect.), Even Incest is becoming more and more accepted, so please tell me the true reason why you hate women without a shirt, cause the whole "taboo" reason is just a pathetic one.

[Stormwind-City]

Being gay was a taboo, you're saying that gay people had the social repsonsibility to hide it, which is just wrong. They are free to show who they are and what they stand for. Same goes for people that want to walk around without a shirt, or anything for that matter. There's nothing to see that nobody has ever seen before. A naked body isn't special in any way and nobody on this earth can say that he/she never saw one before. I really don't see what problem you have with naked or semi-naked people. But i get the feeling you're one of those people from the US that gets all crazy with just a boob.

Call me whatever you want, but don't you dare accuse me of being a Yank. And stop ignoring my arguments. You've made no attempt to explain why someone choosing to walk around without a shirt on is any way comparable to someone being born gay. Unless you're one of those people from the US that insist that being gay is a choice, your argument is extremely flawed. One can't help but be gay; one can certainly help being shirtless, and if they are in public they ought to do so, just as gay people (and straight people) are free to do as they wish in their own homes but may reasonably be expected to maintain a degree of decorum when in a public space. You may have no problem with people doing whatever they like in public, but unless you are resident in some nudist free love commune somewhere you are part of a society in which social convention and etiquette regard female shirtlessness as inappropriate. As a courtesy to other members of that society you ought to conform. Not doing so is anti-social behaviour.

1) He called you a Yank, not Hitler. Calm yourself.
2) Someone being topless harms nobody
3) The current standards of dress are extremely new in human history, they are not old at all.
4) Social etiquette based on "because it is what it is" is a very bad argument. Social etiquette also used to dictate the hanging of thieves, the stoning of adulterers and the burning of witches.
5) Unless society is now a hive-mind, by your definition everyone is anti-social in some way.

[Arcturus Novus]

I personally don't care to see anyone shirtless in public, but I think it'd be fair for anyone to not wear shirts if they so desire.