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Postby Phocidaea » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:41 pm

Hard to say if this is the natural evolution of "fursecution" or the natural evolution of intra-fandom drama.

Either way, it's a bit beyond internet flamewars. Good to hear that the outcome wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:41 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Skinia wrote:We should outlaw Christian sermons instead.


A&B is probably a Christian the same way that I am a Nazi. It's just a schtick they do on NS, which is not entirely serious.

But you do it in a clearly jokingly manner, similar to Nazis in Space. A&B, on the other hand...

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Postby Ashihara no Nakatsukuni » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:42 pm

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Kaiserlichen Deutschland wrote:Exactly my point.


I'll still continue to cross my fingers and hope this unfortunate event was a stupid accident to begin with.

Seems like most people would report that they spilled something, they wouldn't get in trouble for reporting it. Maybe I'm just being more hopeful then what is more likely to be the truth.

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:43 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Skinia wrote:We should outlaw Christian sermons instead.


A&B is probably a Christian the same way that I am a Nazi. It's just a schtick they do on NS, which is not entirely serious.


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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:43 pm

Orangi wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Seeing such things are what makes me cry. It really does. That you would suggest us a lower beings, that we are not equable to you, because we have a like for anthropomorphism. And I fucking hate it.

You can pretty much tell I'm crying at this point.


Oh my god Alairia. As a fellow furry, toughen up about it man. It's JUST a joke- obviously about the fact that plenty of fursuiters are present, resemble animals, so obviously animal repellent is a better way to get rid of them. Even if that's not the intention, I still chuckled heartily about the concept.

Come on man. Really. You're not, "fursecuted".

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.


Alairia stop.

[i]No, as a matter of fact, I will NOT stop over something that is blatantly offensive. Don't ever use the word "fursecuted" around me, and don't tell what you interpertate as a joke, because what you see is different from what I see.[ /i]
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:44 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Furry fetishism is still offensive to the moral health of this nation, but this was wrong to attack them. We should have just outlawed the convention in the first place, then no one would have been harmed.

No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.

Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.
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Postby Orangi » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:44 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Orangi wrote:
Oh my god Alairia. As a fellow furry, toughen up about it man. It's JUST a joke- obviously about the fact that plenty of fursuiters are present, resemble animals, so obviously animal repellent is a better way to get rid of them. Even if that's not the intention, I still chuckled heartily about the concept.

Come on man. Really. You're not, "fursecuted".



Alairia stop.

No, as a matter of fact, I will NOT stop over something that is blatantly offensive. Don't ever use the word "fursecuted" around me, and don't tell what you interpertate as a joke, because what you see is different from what I see.


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Christ almighty. This is why I took a vacation from the furry fandom.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:45 pm

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I'll still continue to cross my fingers and hope this unfortunate event was a stupid accident to begin with.

How does someone "accidentally" drop enough chlorine powder to need a hotel evacuation?

Companies tend to buy in bulk, and if you drop a giant tub/box/other of chlorine, the powder won't be considerate enough to stay in the container.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:46 pm

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Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.

Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.

What Scro says. I sympathize with you, but there's no need to get in trouble over A&B's posting. You're far from the only one who's been offended by it.

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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:47 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No, as a matter of fact, I will NOT stop over something that is blatantly offensive. Don't ever use the word "fursecuted" around me, and don't tell what you interpertate as a joke, because what you see is different from what I see.


Do you see that? You're adding fertilizer for a bumper-crop of anti-furs. Enjoy the harvest.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Furry fetishism is still offensive to the moral health of this nation, but this was wrong to attack them. We should have just outlawed the convention in the first place, then no one would have been harmed.

No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.


Obviously an attack...
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Postby Mirevia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.

What Scro says. I sympathize with you, but there's no need to get in trouble over A&B's posting. You're far from the only one who's been offended by it.


Agreed,Dont give him fuel to his fire. He's just trying to make someone angry.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:48 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.

Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.

I know when I've said something bad, thus I reported myself. I know when I overstepped my morals and boundaries, and I'm not rescinding it. I've said what I need to say, and I have little else to say about this incident.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:49 pm

Olthar wrote:
Margno wrote:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christia ... _extremism
Usually it'll be specific assassinations. Anti abortion terrorism has involved some bombings (usually it's shootings, shootings, and more shootings,) but they've almost exclusively killed staff at abortion clinics.
Hate to say it, but guys like the Army of God don't see people who work at or patronize abortion clinics as collateral damage. Those are their intended targets.

On that same token, anyone who hates furries likely wouldn't consider furry con goers to be collateral damage.

But gas, in a convention, can't be controlled to nearly the extent a bomb can. Besides, which Christian terrorist group has shown any interest in killing furries? They've attacked a lot of abortion clinics and some gay clubs, but I can't find a single case of any of them breaking their usual targets like this.
I think it's super unlikely that this is Identity or Christian Patriot. Like I said, it sounds like KKK, if anything, but could well be a lone crazy person judging by the lack of particularly realistic political motivations.

I'm not saying it was any Christian group. I'm just saying that I could totally believe that one would use gas if so desired. Just because they haven't in the past doesn't mean they won't in the future.


But pool cleaner, which is annoying, but not deadly? That actually doesn't sound like Christians.

Since it was pointed out that this was more a stink bomb than actually trying to kill people, I am now leaning more toward pranksters or disgruntled furries as the most likely suspects.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:49 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.


Obviously an attack...

Hardly unexpected, considering the level of baiting that preceded it.
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Postby Orangi » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:50 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.

What Scro says. I sympathize with you, but there's no need to get in trouble over A&B's posting. You're far from the only one who's been offended by it.


Mirevia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:What Scro says. I sympathize with you, but there's no need to get in trouble over A&B's posting. You're far from the only one who's been offended by it.


Agreed,Dont give him fuel to his fire. He's just trying to make someone angry.


THI-...

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit. Angry posting never leads anywhere good.

I know when I've said something bad, thus I reported myself. I know when I overstepped my morals and boundaries, and I'm not rescinding it. I've said what I need to say, and I have little else to say about this incident.


...*sigh*
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.


Obviously an attack...

I have little to say for that. You've angered me enough with this, you've kept making me angry by saying it was a fetish. I'm done with it.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:Or it could be Muslims.

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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:Or it could be Muslims.


News reporters all over America will simultaneously orgasm if that is true

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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm

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Nazi Flower Power wrote:
A&B is probably a Christian the same way that I am a Nazi. It's just a schtick they do on NS, which is not entirely serious.


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Postby Ashihara no Nakatsukuni » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:52 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Olthar wrote:On that same token, anyone who hates furries likely wouldn't consider furry con goers to be collateral damage.


I'm not saying it was any Christian group. I'm just saying that I could totally believe that one would use gas if so desired. Just because they haven't in the past doesn't mean they won't in the future.


But pool cleaner, which is annoying, but not deadly? That actually doesn't sound like Christians.

Since it was pointed out that this was more a stink bomb than actually trying to kill people, I am now leaning more toward pranksters or disgruntled furries as the most likely suspects.

Maybe it was the scalies.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:52 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Olthar wrote:On that same token, anyone who hates furries likely wouldn't consider furry con goers to be collateral damage.


I'm not saying it was any Christian group. I'm just saying that I could totally believe that one would use gas if so desired. Just because they haven't in the past doesn't mean they won't in the future.


But pool cleaner, which is annoying, but not deadly? That actually doesn't sound like Christians.

Since it was pointed out that this was more a stink bomb than actually trying to kill people, I am now leaning more toward pranksters or disgruntled furries as the most likely suspects.

I'd like to add an extra bit of information that no one seems to be citing:

The time when people found out this was happening was at 12:04. A.M.

Therefore, whoever did this was not hellbent on trying to destroy the furry fandom or ruin their morale, considering whoever placed the cleaning agent there did it at night.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:52 pm

How about we talk about the convention rather than religion?
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Postby Las Palmeras » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:52 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Las Palmeras wrote:
I'll still continue to cross my fingers and hope this unfortunate event was a stupid accident to begin with.

How does someone "accidentally" drop enough chlorine powder to need a hotel evacuation?


That is a personal assumption may have to do with the fact I'm very clumsy. I'm no policeman, but it's still too early to come to solid conclusions.
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