Worst Star Trek Captain

[Sol Core Federation]

Janeway. Just Janeway. If she had an actual working brain that entire wallbanger of a series would never have happened. At least none of the other ST captains were never nearly killed by a shower because some bio-computer in the cafeteria got a freaking cold.

[Lacadaemon]

Han Solo.

[The Corparation]

Decker wasn't a bad captain!! He was only that way because he watched helplessly while his whole crew got killed.

First of all He lost his cool, this is an action unbecoming of an officer,
and because he lost his first command he went all Ahab risking another starship, and if it fails no one left to warn starfleet, a priority one goal.
even when or if you lose all your men THATS PART OF BEING AN OFFICER. second of all, what was his crew supposed to do ABANDONED on that planet. it seems to me that at least part of the crew should have remained aboard, maybe then someone could have continued repairs at least with the transporter.

Losing 400 people is not "part of being an officer" its justification for being driven mad by the guilt. He abandoned his crew on the planet because the ship was totaled. There was nothing they could do to patch it up, life support was going and there was just enough power to get his crew off the ship. Also the transporter was mostly fine there just wasn't any power to use it. So ship out of power and falling apart? Do A) Stay in futile effort to keep it going* or B) Abandon it and head to the nearby habitable planet and wait for rescue to come in response to your distress call? He did the logical thing to do. And it was the wrong choice. It drove him mad. He wasn't a bad captain. That said he wasn't a very good one either. I'd give him a C+ for command skills.

But here's the big argument: His rank was Commodore and not Captain. Thus due to his rank not being Captain he is exempt from title of worst captain not only for the reasons above but also for the fact he wasn't a damned captain. VICTORY IS MINE!!!


*Yes Scotty kind of fixed it up to partial phasers and thrusters, but he's god damn Scotty.

[The Romulan Republic]

Janeway. Just Janeway. If she had an actual working brain that entire wallbanger of a series would never have happened. At least none of the other ST captains were never nearly killed by a shower because some bio-computer in the cafeteria got a freaking cold.

Don't blame Janeway for the design flaws of Voyager.

Blame her for executing a crewmember (Tuvix) and threatening to execute prisoners (the Equinox crew).

[Muslim Christians]

First of all He lost his cool, this is an action unbecoming of an officer,
and because he lost his first command he went all Ahab risking another starship, and if it fails no one left to warn starfleet, a priority one goal.
even when or if you lose all your men THATS PART OF BEING AN OFFICER. second of all, what was his crew supposed to do ABANDONED on that planet. it seems to me that at least part of the crew should have remained aboard, maybe then someone could have continued repairs at least with the transporter.

Losing 400 people is not "part of being an officer" its justification for being driven mad by the guilt. He abandoned his crew on the planet because the ship was totaled. There was nothing they could do to patch it up, life support was going and there was just enough power to get his crew off the ship. Also the transporter was mostly fine there just wasn't any power to use it. So ship out of power and falling apart? Do A) Stay in futile effort to keep it going* or B) Abandon it and head to the nearby habitable planet and wait for rescue to come in response to your distress call? He did the logical thing to do. And it was the wrong choice. It drove him mad. He wasn't a bad captain. That said he wasn't a very good one either. I'd give him a C+ for command skills.

But here's the big argument: His rank was Commodore and not Captain. Thus due to his rank not being Captain he is exempt from title of worst captain not only for the reasons above but also for the fact he wasn't a damned captain. VICTORY IS MINE!!!


*Yes Scotty kind of fixed it up to partial phasers and thrusters, but he's god damn Scotty.

Your BIG argument is the worst argument i have ever seen, Captain is a dual term, it can mean the rank of Captain, and it can also mean Captain of a ship, Admirals can be captains, commanders can be captains, captains can be captains, and yes even commodores can be captain. the person in charge of operation on a ship, is captain.
it was definitely the wrong move, if Scotty could jerry rig the thing to work in a few minutes, then his entire engineering staff could have worked it into an effective system after a bit of time working on it, or they could have fixed the long ranged communications, and besides that, after watching planets being devoured by this thing. it was very unwise to leave the crew on a planet.

losing your men is definitely part of being an officer, you don't think LTcol Pope at Anzac had to deal with that. he lost 700 men, 339 in one night. and as far as i know he didn't go all Ahab risking more.

[Myrensis]

Janeway. Just Janeway. If she had an actual working brain that entire wallbanger of a series would never have happened. At least none of the other ST captains were never nearly killed by a shower because some bio-computer in the cafeteria got a freaking cold.

Don't blame Janeway for the design flaws of Voyager.

Blame her for executing a crewmember (Tuvix) and threatening to execute prisoners (the Equinox crew).

I blame her for stranding Voyager in the DQ in the first place.

[GeneralHaNor]

Don't blame Janeway for the design flaws of Voyager.

Blame her for executing a crewmember (Tuvix) and threatening to execute prisoners (the Equinox crew).

I blame her for stranding Voyager in the DQ in the first place.

it was either that, or doom an entire planet of people.

[Risottia]

I really can't imagine anyone worse than Jonathan Archer. What a loser.
Close second, Sisko. He's so lame the Federation landed him on a stationary base for a Klingon fuckfest's sake!

[Risottia]

Han Solo.

Hey, at least he got that Corellian stripe thingies on his pants!

[The Alma Mater]

I blame her for stranding Voyager in the DQ in the first place.

it was either that, or doom an entire planet of people.

Bomb wih fuse.
Voyager home.
Array goes Kaboom.

Alternatively, Janeway could have stayed behind herself to make the array go boom if she did not trust timers or fuses.

[Daistallia 2104]

Koloth - Dahar Master or not, allowing the crew of the Enterprise to beam tribbles onto your ship qualifies you as the worst captain ever, in the entire universe.

[The Corparation]

Losing 400 people is not "part of being an officer" its justification for being driven mad by the guilt. He abandoned his crew on the planet because the ship was totaled. There was nothing they could do to patch it up, life support was going and there was just enough power to get his crew off the ship. Also the transporter was mostly fine there just wasn't any power to use it. So ship out of power and falling apart? Do A) Stay in futile effort to keep it going* or B) Abandon it and head to the nearby habitable planet and wait for rescue to come in response to your distress call? He did the logical thing to do. And it was the wrong choice. It drove him mad. He wasn't a bad captain. That said he wasn't a very good one either. I'd give him a C+ for command skills.

But here's the big argument: His rank was Commodore and not Captain. Thus due to his rank not being Captain he is exempt from title of worst captain not only for the reasons above but also for the fact he wasn't a damned captain. VICTORY IS MINE!!!


*Yes Scotty kind of fixed it up to partial phasers and thrusters, but he's god damn Scotty.

Your BIG argument is the worst argument i have ever seen, Captain is a dual term, it can mean the rank of Captain, and it can also mean Captain of a ship, Admirals can be captains, commanders can be captains, captains can be captains, and yes even commodores can be captain. the person in charge of operation on a ship, is captain.
it was definitely the wrong move, if Scotty could jerry rig the thing to work in a few minutes, then his entire engineering staff could have worked it into an effective system after a bit of time working on it, or they could have fixed the long ranged communications, and besides that, after watching planets being devoured by this thing. it was very unwise to leave the crew on a planet.

losing your men is definitely part of being an officer, you don't think LTcol Pope at Anzac had to deal with that. he lost 700 men, 339 in one night. and as far as i know he didn't go all Ahab risking more.

I'm not sure if you realize this but my "Big argument" was a joke.
As for Scotty, Scotty is to starships as Jesus is to lepers. He can fix things no one else can. He also did not fix up the main engines or restore complete power.
I do admit that it was unwise of him to leave the crew on the planet but there wasn't much he could do The ship was pretty much destroyed.
And as for Pope no idea who or what he is. But he wasn't facing a giant space probe.

[Michael Kenmore]

Koloth - Dahar Master or not, allowing the crew of the Enterprise to beam tribbles onto your ship qualifies you as the worst captain ever, in the entire universe.

Though, it was Scotty that did it, and it's impossible to counteract the forces of Scotty.

[Daistallia 2104]

Koloth - Dahar Master or not, allowing the crew of the Enterprise to beam tribbles onto your ship qualifies you as the worst captain ever, in the entire universe.

Though, it was Scotty that did it, and it's impossible to counteract the forces of Scotty.

"It was no tribble at all."

[Muslim Christians]

Your BIG argument is the worst argument i have ever seen, Captain is a dual term, it can mean the rank of Captain, and it can also mean Captain of a ship, Admirals can be captains, commanders can be captains, captains can be captains, and yes even commodores can be captain. the person in charge of operation on a ship, is captain.
it was definitely the wrong move, if Scotty could jerry rig the thing to work in a few minutes, then his entire engineering staff could have worked it into an effective system after a bit of time working on it, or they could have fixed the long ranged communications, and besides that, after watching planets being devoured by this thing. it was very unwise to leave the crew on a planet.

losing your men is definitely part of being an officer, you don't think LTcol Pope at Anzac had to deal with that. he lost 700 men, 339 in one night. and as far as i know he didn't go all Ahab risking more.

I'm not sure if you realize this but my "Big argument" was a joke.
As for Scotty, Scotty is to starships as Jesus is to lepers. He can fix things no one else can. He also did not fix up the main engines or restore complete power.
I do admit that it was unwise of him to leave the crew on the planet but there wasn't much he could do The ship was pretty much destroyed.
And as for Pope no idea who or what he is. But he wasn't facing a giant space probe.

i figured your argument might be a joke, but i still wanted to keep it going... OMG your scotty=Jesus comparison was damn awesome...
Pope was the man in charge of the 16th Battalion in WWI Turkey, with his superiors breathing down his throat to keep trying to take that narrow (cliffside) beach he kept to his duties, this battle is famous enough to make it into song for armed forces involved, UK, USA, AUS, And CAN...
im sure you recognize Gallipoli from the USMC song (i think its MC)

[Kryozerkia]

Wasn't Sisko the commander, not captain, of DS9? [/nitpick]

He started off as a Commander, but into the series was promoted to Captain when they gave him the USS Defiant.

Oh and Kirk is a horse's ass; worse captain. Picard is #1, then Sisko. Janeway is third, if only for having magnificent woman balls of steel.

[Michael Kenmore]

Though, it was Scotty that did it, and it's impossible to counteract the forces of Scotty.

"It was no tribble at all."

Not to Koloth. I'd asume it was a lot of tribble.

[The Corparation]

I'm not sure if you realize this but my "Big argument" was a joke.
As for Scotty, Scotty is to starships as Jesus is to lepers. He can fix things no one else can. He also did not fix up the main engines or restore complete power.
I do admit that it was unwise of him to leave the crew on the planet but there wasn't much he could do The ship was pretty much destroyed.
And as for Pope no idea who or what he is. But he wasn't facing a giant space probe.

i figured your argument might be a joke, but i still wanted to keep it going... OMG your scotty=Jesus comparison was damn awesome...
Pope was the man in charge of the 16th Battalion in WWI Turkey, with his superiors breathing down his throat to keep trying to take that narrow (cliffside) beach he kept to his duties, this battle is famous enough to make it into song for armed forces involved, UK, USA, AUS, And CAN...
im sure you recognize Gallipoli from the USMC song (i think its MC)

Gallopli eh? Dam that was a bitch. Britain sending her colonials into a slaughterhouse. USMC wasn't there though. I don't think any US troops were in that campaign.

[Muslim Christians]

i figured your argument might be a joke, but i still wanted to keep it going... OMG your scotty=Jesus comparison was damn awesome...
Pope was the man in charge of the 16th Battalion in WWI Turkey, with his superiors breathing down his throat to keep trying to take that narrow (cliffside) beach he kept to his duties, this battle is famous enough to make it into song for armed forces involved, UK, USA, AUS, And CAN...
im sure you recognize Gallipoli from the USMC song (i think its MC)

Gallopli eh? Dam that was a bitch. Britain sending her colonials into a slaughterhouse. USMC wasn't there though. I don't think any US troops were in that campaign.

I started singing it. its tripoli, as in the pirate incursion against the Barbary coast. thats my bad... but gallipoli was still helll, i would be willing to speculate worthy of comparison to the incident involving Decker

[Daistallia 2104]

"It was no tribble at all."

Not to Koloth. I'd asume it was a lot of tribble.

A lot of tribble did indeed go into the Great Tribble Hunt... (It also likely resulted in the Klingon answer to Philip Marlowe - Tribble is my Business, and all that jazz...)

[Daistallia 2104]

I started singing it. its tripoli, as in the pirate incursion against the Barbary coast. thats my bad... but gallipoli was still helll, i would be willing to speculate worthy of comparison to the incident involving Decker

Or, perchance, Tribboli? (Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.)

[Muslim Christians]

I started singing it. its tripoli, as in the pirate incursion against the Barbary coast. thats my bad... but gallipoli was still helll, i would be willing to speculate worthy of comparison to the incident involving Decker

Or, perchance, Tribboli? (Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.)

you're becoming quite tribblesome

[The Corparation]

it was either that, or doom an entire planet of people.

Bomb wih fuse.
Voyager home.
Array goes Kaboom.

Alternatively, Janeway could have stayed behind herself to make the array go boom if she did not trust timers or fuses.

You my friend just saved your self a 7 year journey. SEE this is why woman can't command starships.

[Call to power]

first (most importantly, perhaps) it would mean abandoning a ship in distress, which is almost as bad as violating neutral zone territory in the first place (there are no good solutions, it's a no-win scenario).

I'm sorry how is making a King Solomon decision that doesn't get all your mates killed nor start an interstellar war count as losing?

dammit this is the kind of childish bullshit that ruined Star Trek for me

Blame her for executing a crewmember (Tuvix) and threatening to execute prisoners (the Equinox crew).

dunno iirc Sisko threatened to destroy all the Marquis colonies if they didn't hand over a fugitive -I mean yeah it was a bluff but still I'm sure even in the middle ages the Pope would want a word with you about that

[The Corparation]

first (most importantly, perhaps) it would mean abandoning a ship in distress, which is almost as bad as violating neutral zone territory in the first place (there are no good solutions, it's a no-win scenario).

I'm sorry how is making a King Solomon decision that doesn't get all your mates killed nor start an interstellar war count as losing?

You lose because you just let a civilian freighter perish with all hands.

An interesting tidbit I realized, when Saavik takes the test she enters the neutral zone risking war in which many would die over letting a single ship die. This is illogical. She's a damn Vulcan. This confuses me a bit. needs more study
1... rushes of to watch that scene in Wrath of Khan several times