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Who's right in this whole debacle

The BLM "Bureau of Land Manegment" i.e. the government
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66%
The Nevada Rancher
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Half & Half
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7%
Neither
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Total votes : 398

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:16 pm

Unsurprisingly, Sean Hannity is bailing off the S.S. Bundy now that the captain opened his mouth about blacks being better off as slaves... *after* he made Bundy a right-wing darling.

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Gauthier wrote:Unsurprisingly, Sean Hannity is bailing off the S.S. Bundy now that the captain opened his mouth about blacks being better off as slaves... *after* he made Bundy a right-wing darling.

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’

Resisting federal control of land due to a fluke of history is different than saying this is historical fact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrZZQzyhp7g
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Postby Death Metal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:Unsurprisingly, Sean Hannity is bailing off the S.S. Bundy now that the captain opened his mouth about blacks being better off as slaves... *after* he made Bundy a right-wing darling.

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’


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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:30 pm

If Washington was still here he would have told dat President Obama to get the troops out there and kick Bundy's ass to kingdom come.

Anti American Bundy needs to get out of our country, America!
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:31 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:If Washington was still here he would have told dat President Obama to get the troops out there and kick Bundy's ass to kingdom come.

Anti American Bundy needs to get out of our country, America!

In his fantasy world, he already is. Because, you know, America doesn't exist.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:32 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:If Washington was still here he would have told dat President Obama to get the troops out there and kick Bundy's ass to kingdom come.

Anti American Bundy needs to get out of our country, America!


He probably would have.

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:32 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Unsurprisingly, Sean Hannity is bailing off the S.S. Bundy now that the captain opened his mouth about blacks being better off as slaves... *after* he made Bundy a right-wing darling.

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’


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That is kind of his job. Be as controversial as he can without getting fired. :p
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:34 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Hannity-to-English: "I will defend right-wing Orwellian psuedorevolutionaries... until it's bad PR for me to do so."

That is kind of his job. Be as controversial as he can without getting fired. :p


It's FOXNews. Unless he says Rupert Murdoch is a cocksucking liberal sleeper agent he'll never get fired.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Jocabia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:13 pm

You mean a violent and unstable individual who has repeatedly said things that are completely disconnected from reality is not the best person to present as the new American patriot? Who knew? Oh, right, everyone but the folks at Fox News and other Conservative apologists.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:22 pm

Jocabia wrote:You mean a violent and unstable individual who has repeatedly said things that are completely disconnected from reality is not the best person to present as the new American patriot? Who knew? Oh, right, everyone but the folks at Fox News and other Conservative apologists.


Anyone up to and including child molestors will be hailed as patriots as long as they publically disdain the federal government. *nod*
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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:22 pm

Ted's Wikipedia page is near the bottom of the first page now.

Also, Cliven clearly doesn't know shit about southron slavery.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:25 pm

Gauthier wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:If Washington was still here he would have told dat President Obama to get the troops out there and kick Bundy's ass to kingdom come.

Anti American Bundy needs to get out of our country, America!


He probably would have.

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Yeah, thats what I was talking about :P
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:35 pm

Sailsia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Old, confederate sympathizing white guy is a racist? Color me shocked.

I don't think his comment was racist. It demonstrated an ignorance in the understanding of the institution of slavery, and certainly lacked thoughtfulness, but I fail to see where the racism comes in. (other than his implication that the only people who live in public housing are blacks, I suppose)

No, call-in blacks "niggers" and saying they were better off as slaves isn't racist in the least... :roll:
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:36 pm

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Juggalo world wrote:I mean in all honesty he has a point and I don't think this would affect his case in anyway it's his personal view which shouldn't become a factor in something unrelated to racism.


What point does he have exactly?

That he's a racist douche.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:39 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
What point does he have exactly?

That he's a racist douche.


And that it's not mooching when he does it.
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Postby Roski » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:32 pm

I kinda supported him before, not by much though, but the racism is very much uncalled for. Fuck him and his racist ass.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:37 pm

Roski wrote:I kinda supported him before, not by much though, but the racism is very much uncalled for. Fuck him and his racist ass.

You support theft, vandalism, and issuing death threats?
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Postby Roski » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:38 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Roski wrote:I kinda supported him before, not by much though, but the racism is very much uncalled for. Fuck him and his racist ass.

You support theft, vandalism, and issuing death threats?


Depends on the situation on the last one, but the other two are not present.

Now, if I picked a piece of grass from my neighbors yard, and then I could get arrested for doing so, you would have a case.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:02 pm

Roski wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You support theft, vandalism, and issuing death threats?


Depends on the situation on the last one, but the other two are not present.

Now, if I picked a piece of grass from my neighbors yard, and then I could get arrested for doing so, you would have a case.

Bundy has done all three.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:13 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Roski wrote:
Depends on the situation on the last one, but the other two are not present.

Now, if I picked a piece of grass from my neighbors yard, and then I could get arrested for doing so, you would have a case.

Bundy has done all three.

Would the cows eating grass count as the vandalism part?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:15 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Bundy has done all three.

Would the cows eating grass count as the vandalism part?

The cows' effect on the terrain, not just eating grass.
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Postby Jocabia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:24 pm

Roski wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You support theft, vandalism, and issuing death threats?


Depends on the situation on the last one, but the other two are not present.

Now, if I picked a piece of grass from my neighbors yard, and then I could get arrested for doing so, you would have a case.

One, in this scenario, the grass is your neighbors crop, the thing that makes your neighbors land valuable. So, yeah, if this were a private land owner, this guy would be rousted by the local sheriff inside of the first year.
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Postby Destiny Island » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:32 pm

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No god damn it fuck that homestuck shit.

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Postby Tekania » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:02 pm

Gauthier wrote:Unsurprisingly, Sean Hannity is bailing off the S.S. Bundy now that the captain opened his mouth about blacks being better off as slaves... *after* he made Bundy a right-wing darling.

Sean Hannity on Bundy ‘Negro’ Remarks: ‘Beyond Repugnant to Me’


It's funny in and of itself that he thinks this is an "eminent domain" issue. The Feds owned that land since they acquired it from Mexico. Eminent domain is not an issue here, no one else but the US Federal Government has owned that land since it was acquire from Mexico.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:03 pm

Apparently Bundy is fine with slavery too, which is totally not surprising.
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