Legitimate complaints about the General forum

[Geniasis]

Again, I'm not saying that we should get rid of F7. There's a place for it. But there's a place for something a little lighter and softer in General as well.

[Auremena]

No, I had a flag that I used mostly for gameplay forums. I switched after being rejected by General several times trying to cross between the two.

Awe.
That's the kind of stuff the community as a whole should just discourage on it's own, without the help of the mods.

You know what, the flag thing is just like racism. Discriminating against those who look different than them. I find anime appealing, a work of art, and kind of taboo (I live in the south ATM, terrible place for a person like me to live) cause here the anime that comes to mind to the locals is Naruto, which is quite sub par, in my opinion.

Why do we have to be segregated into groups anyways? Make it a come and go. The difference, in my eyes, is just the grouping of the topics, like in the gameplay forum. NSG has the discussions, F7 has the fun. Come and go between the two, and there won't be the NSGers who think they're better than everyone else, and the F7ers who don't act mature on many occasions. I tried that a long time ago, and it didn't work because of the hardcore activists for both groups saying you can't be both. I think we should all be both, have the liberty to discuss in General, and goof off in F7 without discrimination or segregation.

Well, the idea is that when NSG allowed many more "fun", "social", or "community" threads, it became more of a community forum where we would disagree on politics and other issues (although there were always the hardcore arguers), rather than an argument forum, where everybody just argued with each other.

Not exactly what I'm talking about. I'm reffereing to the people inside them that think theirs is better than the other without actually doing much in the other.
What I'm trying to say is why can't we all be friends? But according to my earlier statement, that wouldn't happen, because the majority of the NSGers would say "stoopid idealizt ur an idjot" and leave it at that.

[Laos Refugees]

You know what, the flag thing is just like racism. Discriminating against those who look different than them. I find anime appealing, a work of art, and kind of taboo (I live in the south ATM, terrible place for a person like me to live) cause here the anime that comes to mind to the locals is Naruto, which is quite sub par, in my opinion
No, the 'flag thing' is nothing not just like racism, it may, MAY, have similarities, but it is not 'just like'. I also, have lived in the South, there are just as many 'real' anime fans, who look down on Naruto. You know, not only that, talking about anime makes me cringe, don't know why.

What I'm trying to say is why can't we all be friends? But according to my earlier statement, that wouldn't happen, because the majority of the NSGers would say "stoopid idealizt ur an idjot" and leave it at that.
I have never, EVER, seen a regular NSGer say something like that. In my history on this account, and during my years as a Capitalist three years ago. If a NSGer did say that though, it would be because of your slightly off grammar, or lack of debating skills.

Also, if I'm spamming moderation, I'll gladly stop.

[Nadkor]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

[The Blaatschapen]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

Thumbs up! I like this idea, let's do it and see how it works out?

[Nadkor]

On that theme, some of the off-site spin-offs from NSG have good news and bad news threads. They're something entirely different from what we have here. In the good news thread people can tell everyone about good things that are going on in their lives, and keep people updated. In the bad news thread people can post about things that are going on in their lives that they might like some advice on, or even just some comforting.

Surely these are things that would help engender a greater feel of "community" within NSG.

[Wiztopia]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

Put it in Forum 7 because those just get spammy. People would just say stuff like "welcome to the forums" over and over again.

[Auremena]

You know what, the flag thing is just like racism. Discriminating against those who look different than them. I find anime appealing, a work of art, and kind of taboo (I live in the south ATM, terrible place for a person like me to live) cause here the anime that comes to mind to the locals is Naruto, which is quite sub par, in my opinion
No, the 'flag thing' is nothing not just like racism, it may, MAY, have similarities, but it is not 'just like'. I also, have lived in the South, there are just as many 'real' anime fans, who look down on Naruto. You know, not only that, talking about anime makes me cringe, don't know why.

What I'm trying to say is why can't we all be friends? But according to my earlier statement, that wouldn't happen, because the majority of the NSGers would say "stoopid idealizt ur an idjot" and leave it at that.
I have never, EVER, seen a regular NSGer say something like that. In my history on this account, and during my years as a Capitalist three years ago. If a NSGer did say that though, it would be because of your slightly off grammar, or lack of debating skills.

Also, if I'm spamming moderation, I'll gladly stop.

No, it's still discrimination, which racism is a type of.
I was using the poor grammar to make a point that the argument against me wasn't valid, not because I'm stupid.

[Nadkor]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

Put it in Forum 7

No. That would defeat the purpose.

[Audentias Gryphus]

It's fairly well explained here: viewtopic.php?p=3676131#p3676131
and here: viewtopic.php?p=4005474&sid=75159bca2d39002c8b9dedf095b4a2d9#p4005474
why you are wrong. It sometimes varies on a case by case basis whether to lock it, but bumps in general are okay when there hasn't been many replies. Too many bumps later, the thread is locked for OP not realizing that "lack of interest" plays a role in the replies his thread will get. But once there's already been many replies, people are just commenting on sub-topics that aren't relevant to the OP.

"We lock threads whenever it's obvious that further discussion will go nowhere."

"I remember one thread that had a good discussion going but getting locked just because the original person who bumped it got called for necroposting."

That second link of yours just kicked your own ass.

There is a thing known as "quoting" posts, and copy paste, if you're unfamiliar with that. Combine the two, with a little tabbing thrown in the mix, and show me where you find that quote in the second link.

[Saint Clair Island]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

For an example of one of these on another forum I frequent, see here.

(Ignore the "content warning", that's a Google Incident thingie -- everything should be perfectly worksafe.)

[Laos Refugees]

No, it's still discrimination, which racism is a type of.

There's a big difference between hating someone for their genes and coming to the assumption that someone is ignorant for their flag choice.

[Tagmatium]

No, it's still discrimination, which racism is a type of.

There's a big difference between hating someone for their genes and coming to the assumption that someone is ignorant for their flag choice.

Mate, really not the thread.

[Laos Refugees]

There's a big difference between hating someone for their genes and coming to the assumption that someone is ignorant for their flag choice.

Mate, really not the thread.

Indeed, I have driven off course, assuming I was ever on that course. I apologize.

[Auremena]

No, it's still discrimination, which racism is a type of.

There's a big difference between hating someone for their genes and coming to the assumption that someone is ignorant for their flag choice.

Still the same thing, discriminating against opinions, which we are all entitled to have our own opinions and be respected for them.
I don't get why you can't figure that out without me telling you. Or are you doing this purposely to just act ignorant?

[Sucrati]

Conversations Tend To Lean One Direction Where's my support?!

[Buffett and Colbert]

Why couldn't we have a welcome thread stickied in NSG? Most forums have one.

Different from the player info thread. Where new people can pop in and introduce themselves, have a bit of a chat with the people who are already here. It might help with new posters blending in.

I think that's a great idea. Forum 7 has one; I don't see why NSG shouldn't.

[Audentias Gryphus]

Take it to NSG or Gameplay.

[Katganistan]

maybe each forum should be autonomous and come up with their own rules? It sounds like something that would please almost everybody in my opinion.

To a very limited extent, there are different rules depending on the forum.

[Katganistan]

If I ever attempt to say my opinion on something they just say "shaddup ya stupid commie whore, you don't work"
At least most do.

Ok, but in that case report it as flaming you. This thread's supposed to be more about complaints/changes in how General's run.

[Audentias Gryphus]

maybe each forum should be autonomous and come up with their own rules? It sounds like something that would please almost everybody in my opinion.

To a very limited extent, there are different rules depending on the forum.

So would we allow porn and ED and 4chan etc. in Forum 7 then? A lawless society isn't a functioning or productive one.

[Katganistan]

viewtopic.php?p=2190735#p2190735

Then whoever wrote the rules was wrong. You all lock the threads even if discussion starts again. I remember one thread that had a good discussion going but getting locked just because the original person who bumped it got called for necroposting.

Respectfully, I disagree. The rules evolved over the lifetime of the forums. In General forum, things move quite fast -- so bumping a three week old thread is a gravedig. And generally, only threads that had been locked for rulebreaking get a sequel auto-locked -- often we tell people to start a new thread after a gravedig.

[Laos Refugees]

To a very limited extent, there are different rules depending on the forum.

So would we allow porn and ED and 4chan etc. in Forum 7 then? A lawless society isn't a functioning or productive one.

Just because F7 is home to spam, doesn't mean it's going to become a new *chan. Max would never allow such a thing to happen. F7 doesn't need to be productive, that however, doesn't mean it has the right to spam DESU DESU DESU and trade pictures of underaged boys.

[Katganistan]

Just on the first point, we did alienate new posters to a noticeable extent before the split, so I don't think this would fix it.

True, and fair enough. NSG has been rather clique-ish for a while, and new posters either fit in or don't.

That's something else we should try to fix, but it's not a moderation complaint per se.

I agree. We all could be more patient and try to guide newbs rather than bash them and cause them to become n00bs.

[Katganistan]

This has to do with the forums in general but especially relates to NSG: stop locking threads and calling them necroposting. A post made 1-3 weeks after the last post is not necoposting. That is still bumping.

It's fairly well explained here: viewtopic.php?p=3676131#p3676131
and here: viewtopic.php?p=4005474&sid=75159bca2d39002c8b9dedf095b4a2d9#p4005474
why you are wrong. It sometimes varies on a case by case basis whether to lock it, but bumps in general are okay when there hasn't been many replies. Too many bumps later, the thread is locked for OP not realizing that "lack of interest" plays a role in the replies his thread will get. But once there's already been many replies, people are just commenting on sub-topics that aren't relevant to the OP.

This was already covered by a mod. No need to comment more on it.