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Do you support the protests?

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Protests in Iran

Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:57 am

There are large protests against the Iranian government after 22-year old Mahsa Amini was arrested and killed after she wore her hijab while showing too much hair.
After she was arrested by the so-called "Morality Police" she was in a state of coma for 3 days and died soon after. Massive protests have erupted by women against the Iranian government. The Iranian police are responding violently, with riot shields, guns etc.
In my opinion, this is a good thing, and if it succeeds it may just overthrow the Ayatollahs.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:42 am

It does feel like it could develop into something much bigger. Though sadly I expect we will see a really heavy handed crackdown.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:It does feel like it could develop into something much bigger. Though sadly I expect we will see a really heavy handed crackdown.

It reminds me a bit of the January 2022 Kazakhstan protests. Anger explodes, and bodies drop. As much as I would like to see the Iranian government overthrown (and Russia lose yet another ally, alongside basically all of CSTO at this point), it does feel a bit wary that it will happen. At least not without tons of bloodshed.
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:44 am

Basically Iran everyday. Women in Iran must feel "Can't have shit in Chicago Tehran" vibes.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:51 am

That explains a LOT of hashtags that you will see being posted all around big social network pages and the like.

Here's to hoping for a better change to come eventually. May not be immediate, but I'm hoping for a movement towards treating women better!

It's still a shame that someone died.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:28 am

We should not leave the blood of Mahsa Emin on the ground, we should walk with feminist feelings against the Islamic state of Iran. the power of feminists will defeat political Islamists. I support the social democrat secular Iran and I find the protests right, I hope there will be a revolution.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:36 am

I am exceedingly confident that this will go nowhere, unfortunately. Dictators don't tend to fall from protesting women, they fall from total revolution, and I don't think this will turn into that. I wish and hope it will, but it more than likely will fall flat. They are still brave, but I have doubt it'll lead to any change.
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Postby Reino de Portvgal » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:38 am

Let's go, let's end that morality police bullshit and end these stupid laws. Iran deserves way better than this horrible regime.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 am

And the protests will accomplish nothing, as protests usually do. Cryptofascist regimes like the one in Iran can only be toppled by revolution; not angry people chanting slogans. It took a revolution to take down the Shah it'll take a revolution to take down the Ayatollah.
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Postby Pan-Pacific Unity » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:01 pm

Sordhau wrote:And the protests will accomplish nothing, as protests usually do. Cryptofascist regimes like the one in Iran can only be toppled by revolution; not angry people chanting slogans. It took a revolution to take down the Shah it'll take a revolution to take down the Ayatollah.

True, but if you look at the 1979 revolution you'll see that it began with mass protests. That said, I'm not sure that there's a central rallying program or figure like Khomeini was just yet, so it may very well collapse without accomplishing much. But mass protests also present an excellent environment for a revolutionary platform to emerge for the future.
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Postby Kalivyah » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:06 pm

Sordhau wrote:And the protests will accomplish nothing, as protests usually do. Cryptofascist regimes like the one in Iran can only be toppled by revolution; not angry people chanting slogans. It took a revolution to take down the Shah it'll take a revolution to take down the Ayatollah.

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:10 pm

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Postby Hispida » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:11 pm

i doubt this will go anywhere. regardless, best of luck to the protestors
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:18 pm

This is far from the first time in recent years that we have seen significant political unrest in Iran. I'm not sure that there's any reason to believe that these protests will lead directly to any more significant consequences than the ones we saw in 2017 or 2019. However, there is always room for hope, and the fact that major nationwide protests against the Iranian regime seem to be becoming frequent events doesn't bode well for the future of the Islamic Republic. I am personally looking forward to 29th October, which Iranian royalists have been celebrating as Cyrus the Great Day since the early 2000s and tends to be associated with protests against the regime and in favour of the return of the Pahlavi monarchy (the 29th also happens to be Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi's birthday). I would like to see the Pahlavi dynasty and the 1906 constitution restored, and the odious tyranny of the ayatollahs brought to an end.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:27 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:This is far from the first time in recent years that we have seen significant political unrest in Iran. I'm not sure that there's any reason to believe that these protests will lead directly to any more significant consequences than the ones we saw in 2017 or 2019. However, there is always room for hope, and the fact that major nationwide protests against the Iranian regime seem to be becoming frequent events doesn't bode well for the future of the Islamic Republic.

From my reading elsewhere, I do understand that the protests have been increasingly larger with every iteration, and we only missed seeing large ones in recent years because Covid essentially snuffed out public life there for awhile (and elsewhere, of course).
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Postby Erablegensstan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:19 pm

The media coverage of this reeks of American propaganda. Soon they will be pushing for an 'intervention'



Kalivyah wrote:
Sordhau wrote:And the protests will accomplish nothing, as protests usually do. Cryptofascist regimes like the one in Iran can only be toppled by revolution; not angry people chanting slogans. It took a revolution to take down the Shah it'll take a revolution to take down the Ayatollah.

Any government is preferable to an Islamist one.


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Postby Iskanistan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:33 pm

I hope they grow larger. Altough I believe they wont and will fizzle out in a few day. Discontent is good and the image of the Ayatollahs is bigger aboard than in their home.
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Postby The Imagination Animals » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:04 pm

Not the first time this happened, and I'm not sure where it may go, but I stand with the Iranian people throughout these protests.
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:07 pm

Erablegensstan wrote:The media coverage of this reeks of American propaganda. Soon they will be pushing for an 'intervention'



Kalivyah wrote:Any government is preferable to an Islamist one.


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Would you like being FORCED to wear a black veil around your face, only showing your eyes, nose and mouth? No.
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Postby Erablegensstan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:02 pm

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Erablegensstan wrote:The media coverage of this reeks of American propaganda. Soon they will be pushing for an 'intervention'





Ok Nazi

Would you like being FORCED to wear a black veil around your face, only showing your eyes, nose and mouth? No.


You're thinking of Saudi Arabia
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:04 pm

Erablegensstan wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Would you like being FORCED to wear a black veil around your face, only showing your eyes, nose and mouth? No.


You're thinking of Saudi Arabia

Its same for some Arab-World nations. I think it is part of the religion to wear a hijab, but I'm not so sure since I'm Roman Catholic.
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Postby The Imagination Animals » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:07 pm

Erablegensstan wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Would you like being FORCED to wear a black veil around your face, only showing your eyes, nose and mouth? No.


You're thinking of Saudi Arabia


Actually, Saudi Arabia does not implement hijab laws anymore as of now.
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Postby Erablegensstan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:08 pm

The Imagination Animals wrote:
Erablegensstan wrote:
You're thinking of Saudi Arabia


Actually, Saudi Arabia no longer has hijab laws as a whole.


Yeah they do
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Postby The Imagination Animals » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:11 pm

Erablegensstan wrote:
The Imagination Animals wrote:
Actually, Saudi Arabia no longer has hijab laws as a whole.


Yeah they do


Saudi law states that women wear "modest clothing" but they are no longer required to wear the hijab. Iran, however, still implements hijab laws.
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