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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 20, 2010 11:23 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:3: No, it is irrelevant because you keep overseeing the fact that the Russian people would not, ever again, permit the resurgence of a Czarist Russia.
4: That's why you need to check your sources before you make a claim.

3: Easy to say considering the Bolsheviks won... If somehow the White Movement had gotten its act together and managed to win it might have been a different story.
4: No, that's why I should be more careful and clear with my phrasing.


3: They did not, and the killing of the children was unnecessary.
4: And check your sources.
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Postby Tokos » Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 am

I dislike the Russian language. The Russian accent is cool, but the language itself sounds like barbaric Mongol spitting.
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Thu May 20, 2010 11:25 am

What I HATE about Russia is how it gave Communism a bad name :mad:
I do think it is an awesome place though... the Kremlin is beautiful, Siberia has amazing desolate majesty (that's what my cousin told me at least).

I don't like the fascist resurgence, though.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 11:26 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:3: No, it is irrelevant because you keep overseeing the fact that the Russian people would not, ever again, permit the resurgence of a Czarist Russia.
4: That's why you need to check your sources before you make a claim.

3: Easy to say considering the Bolsheviks won... If somehow the White Movement had gotten its act together and managed to win it might have been a different story.
4: No, that's why I should be more careful and clear with my phrasing.


3: They did not, and the killing of the children was unnecessary.
4: And check your sources.

3: Again, just because things turned out the way they did does not mean that they had to turn out that way.
4: My sources were fine, the failing was completely mine and a matter of sloppy phrasing.
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Thu May 20, 2010 11:27 am

Tokos wrote:I dislike the Russian language. The Russian accent is cool, but the language itself sounds like barbaric Mongol spitting.

Nyet.
The language is great, da?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 11:30 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Tokos wrote:I dislike the Russian language. The Russian accent is cool, but the language itself sounds like barbaric Mongol spitting.

Нет.
Язык является большим, да?
до свидания!

Fixed... ;)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 20, 2010 11:30 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:3: No, it is irrelevant because you keep overseeing the fact that the Russian people would not, ever again, permit the resurgence of a Czarist Russia.
4: That's why you need to check your sources before you make a claim.

3: Easy to say considering the Bolsheviks won... If somehow the White Movement had gotten its act together and managed to win it might have been a different story.
4: No, that's why I should be more careful and clear with my phrasing.


3: They did not, and the killing of the children was unnecessary.
4: And check your sources.

3: Again, just because things turned out the way they did does not mean that they had to turn out that way.
4: My sources were fine, the failing was completely mine and a matter of sloppy phrasing.


3: You said it yourself. It took the Bolshevik 3 years to stamp out any resistance from the White Guard. In those 3 years, they could've kept the children alive. After seeing what would become, then they could make a decision. Instead, they chose to kill them all right away, using charges of bogus genocide to execute them, and on top of that, disfigure and bury them by the side of the rode in Yekaterinburg. Even if the resistance had taken more time, a matter of educating the kids would've sufficed.
4: I won't comment on this anymore.
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Thu May 20, 2010 11:33 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Tokos wrote:I dislike the Russian language. The Russian accent is cool, but the language itself sounds like barbaric Mongol spitting.

Нет.
Язык является большим, да?
до свидания!

Fixed... ;)

Cyrillic sure looks awesome :lol:
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Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty. - Ho Chi Minh
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 20, 2010 11:34 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You said it yourself. It took the Bolshevik 3 years to stamp out any resistance from the White Guard. In those 3 years, they could've kept the children alive. After seeing what would become, then they could make a decision. Instead, they chose to kill them all right away, using charges of bogus genocide to execute them, and on top of that, disfigure and bury them by the side of the rode in Yekaterinburg. Even if the resistance had taken more time, a matter of educating the kids would've sufficed.

Point (although I stand by my position that education might not have sufficed). I mostly was just looking for what I got with that response, which was an acknowledgement that things could have gone differently.
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Postby BAMF Klingon Satanists » Thu May 20, 2010 11:39 am

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Postby Sveltlande » Thu May 20, 2010 11:40 am

can i suggest literature? (unless someone already had
My personal favourites Bulgakov and Solzhenitsyn
but consider Tolstoi, Pushkin, Dostoevsky, etc.
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Postby Estruia » Thu May 20, 2010 11:42 am

I like the In soviet russia jokes...thats about it :3
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu May 20, 2010 11:43 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You said it yourself. It took the Bolshevik 3 years to stamp out any resistance from the White Guard. In those 3 years, they could've kept the children alive. After seeing what would become, then they could make a decision. Instead, they chose to kill them all right away, using charges of bogus genocide to execute them, and on top of that, disfigure and bury them by the side of the rode in Yekaterinburg. Even if the resistance had taken more time, a matter of educating the kids would've sufficed.

Point (although I stand by my position that education might not have sufficed). I mostly was just looking for what I got with that response, which was an acknowledgement that things could have gone differently.
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Just like I stand by my position that killing them was plain wrong. Killing the children was just wrong.
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Postby Sveltlande » Thu May 20, 2010 11:47 am

oh i also agree that the stigma it has given to socialism so that if anyone even mentions it people think you are condoning the gulags is very annoying

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Thu May 20, 2010 2:06 pm

"Shofercia"
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

if you like russia maybe that will alter your opinion a little.

but don't read it on a full stomach, it's rather sickening.


You mean countries commit crimes during warfare :shock:
And other countries, during the Cold War, make up bullshit about them? :shock:
And countries that just threw off the yoke of Soviet opression might have people that overdramatize? :shock:
And Wikipedia isn't a Russian-Friendly encyclopedia? :shock: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Wikipediametric

Wow, I learned so much new stuff today! Way to judge the entire tree by several bad apples. :clap:

Should I, using your logic, judge all Americans by Bush? All Brits by Brown? Or, to expand your "stellar" logic, all white people by Hitler?


aye countries commit crimes during warfare but those committed by the soviets were on a pretty large scale, in fact the only equal to the sheer mass of abuse would be Hitler.
yes there was propaganda by both sides in the cold war, but i think there is plenty of evidence to go by that does prove the Soviet armies did some very nasty stuff in WW2.
I didn't read the link posted of encyclopediadramatica because i know that's a spam site.

Well if Bush had in fact committed massed instances of abuse against people then i suppose it would make sense to view him in a negative fashion, likewise if Brown had done something similar.
All white people by Hitler? nah that wouldn't work.

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Postby Awracji » Fri May 21, 2010 5:40 pm

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Tokos wrote:I dislike the Russian language. The Russian accent is cool, but the language itself sounds like barbaric Mongol spitting.

Нет.
Язык является большим, да?
до свидания!

Fixed... ;)

Cyrillic sure looks awesome :lol:


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Postby Hornopolis » Fri May 21, 2010 5:44 pm

The moon planet wrote:I personally like it there alot

[OOC: If I said what I dislike about russia, then, I would most likely get this nation DEATed for trolling/flaming.]
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Postby Grandais » Tue May 25, 2010 6:13 am

Kalasparata wrote:I don't know a word or letter of Russian but I have a weird intrrest in the laguage

Не за что, товарищ.

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed May 26, 2010 12:14 am

Grandais wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:I don't know a word or letter of Russian but I have a weird intrrest in the laguage

Не за что, товариш товарищ.

Fixed
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