Loved one, or stranger?

[Khithali]

Well, my first reaction is to look for a third option, but thats not the question, so...

I would not be able to stand seeing my SO being tortured, and would thus do it at some point. How long that would take, I don't know, but I reckon sooner rather than later, as I would be pragmatic enough to realise that it would be better to do so earlier rather than later, as my SO would be tortured less. I'd still hate myself for doing it, but I think overall, it would be the better choice.

And yes Galloism, you do have some sick dreams.

[Callisdrun]

I find rape more comparable to torture than to murder.

If somebody asks me, would you murder somebody to save your brother? I might say yes. I could probably pull a trigger and shoot another person, if I had to, to save the life of my brother.

But if somebody asked me, would you torture somebody to save your brother? I think I'd have to say no, because I don't honestly think I could do it. I don't think I could torture somebody else.

Oh, and here's a "ladies" view on the OP's situation: if I was the SO, and my (male) SO decided to rape that other woman to "save" me, then I would lose all respect for him and would get away from him as quickly as possible. I would not feel any gratitude, I would not view him as a hero, and I would never remotely consider being involved with him ever again. I'm sure lots of guys will leap to call me an ungrateful bitch for not recognizing his poor, poor plight, and how he was so noble for raping somebody to "save" me because he cared so very much, but I don't see anything noble about torturing.

Someone's definitely not a utilitarian.

And that's perfectly fine. People are different.

[Callisdrun]

Personally I find rape worse than murder but for me it's because one lives with the effects.

I find rape more comparable to torture than to murder.

If somebody asks me, would you murder somebody to save your brother? I might say yes. I could probably pull a trigger and shoot another person, if I had to, to save the life of my brother.

But if somebody asked me, would you torture somebody to save your brother? I think I'd have to say no, because I don't honestly think I could do it. I don't think I could torture somebody else.

Oh, and here's a "ladies" view on the OP's situation: if I was the SO, and my (male) SO decided to rape that other woman to "save" me, then I would lose all respect for him and would get away from him as quickly as possible. I would not feel any gratitude, I would not view him as a hero, and I would never remotely consider being involved with him ever again. I'm sure lots of guys will leap to call me an ungrateful bitch for not recognizing his poor, poor plight, and how he was so noble for raping somebody to "save" me because he cared so very much, but I don't see anything noble about torturing.

Actually that's what I think my wife's reaction would be. I would still (if as in the hypothetical there was no other choice) choose to rape a stranger to save her.

Indeed. I wouldn't expect to be thanked, nor for the relationship to continue. I care about my girlfriend enough that our relationship ending is preferable to her being indefinitely tortured.

I wouldn't be around long after this anyway.

[Dyakovo]

After reading this I have changed my mind.
I don't think I would actually be able to rape a 15 year old girl even though I am only 16.
When I think about the consequences:
1. Would my SO still want to be with me after what I'd done?
2. Would I be able to live with myself after I'd done it?
But then I wouldn't want my SO to suffer, I'd sacrifice my life to save her's if that was an option.
I'd probably not be able to deal with the situation.

1) Probably (i.e. most likely) not.
2) It depends upon how well you managed to rationalize it.

[The Parkus Empire]

If my SO was being tortured, I'd do it, because I care about her more than the random girl.

But I'd feel like such a monster that I'd kill myself after.

But if you don't kill yourself, you might get a chance at killing the schmuck who brought this down upon you.

[Person012345]

A very interesting hypothetical based on a dream I had a few years ago. By the way, I have very interesting dreams. This dream is told from the perspective of a man, and there's no way for me to convert it. You'll just have to make do, ladies.

Let's suppose that someone of infinite moneys and power (or, finite, but enough that you can't match it) has kidnapped you because he likes your DNA profile, and has kidnapped another person that he liked her DNA profile. This powerful person's aim, of course, is for you two to produce a child which then the rich person will take as his own. You are your age, and the girl is ~15.

Here's the kicker. She doesn't want to have sex with you, and she's so idealistic he hasn't been able to barter or threaten her with anything to make her willingly submit. Therefore, you will have to rape her.

As leverage, this rich man has kidnapped your SO, and she will be tortured until you rape this girl and impregnate her (however many times that takes), at which time you and your SO will be released.

So, how will it be - rape the girl and force her to carry your spawn, or watch your loved one suffer?

By the way - this is a hypothetical, and there's no way to escape or otherwise beat it. Either you rape the girl, or you don't.

I'd rape her, If only because my SO would be far more important than some stranger.

I mean, the guy is even going to raise the kid after its born, its not like thats not a plus.

The only problem is, does he let her go afterwards. If he did, I'd have to kill her to keep her from going to the proper authorities about it. Oh, and you'd have to keep it from your wife, less see leave you for thinking you a monster.

...

1. I doubt you would be prosecuted for that.
2. I'm certainly not going to lie to my SO about something like that. If she left me for it that's her choice.

[Lackadaisical2]

A very interesting hypothetical based on a dream I had a few years ago. By the way, I have very interesting dreams. This dream is told from the perspective of a man, and there's no way for me to convert it. You'll just have to make do, ladies.

Let's suppose that someone of infinite moneys and power (or, finite, but enough that you can't match it) has kidnapped you because he likes your DNA profile, and has kidnapped another person that he liked her DNA profile. This powerful person's aim, of course, is for you two to produce a child which then the rich person will take as his own. You are your age, and the girl is ~15.

Here's the kicker. She doesn't want to have sex with you, and she's so idealistic he hasn't been able to barter or threaten her with anything to make her willingly submit. Therefore, you will have to rape her.

As leverage, this rich man has kidnapped your SO, and she will be tortured until you rape this girl and impregnate her (however many times that takes), at which time you and your SO will be released.

So, how will it be - rape the girl and force her to carry your spawn, or watch your loved one suffer?

By the way - this is a hypothetical, and there's no way to escape or otherwise beat it. Either you rape the girl, or you don't.

I'd rape her, If only because my SO would be far more important than some stranger.

I mean, the guy is even going to raise the kid after its born, its not like thats not a plus.

The only problem is, does he let her go afterwards. If he did, I'd have to kill her to keep her from going to the proper authorities about it. Oh, and you'd have to keep it from your wife, less see leave you for thinking you a monster.

...

1. I doubt you would be prosecuted for that.
2. I'm certainly not going to lie to my SO about something like that. If she left me for it that's her choice.

1. maybe, probably depends a lot on the jurisdiction, and how much they believe you
2. If she leaves, you're probably better off with out her...

[Callisdrun]

If my SO was being tortured, I'd do it, because I care about her more than the random girl.

But I'd feel like such a monster that I'd kill myself after.

But if you don't kill yourself, you might get a chance at killing the schmuck who brought this down upon you.

This is after I kill the evil rich guy.

[Ermarian]

Rape her, kill the man and/or free her when the opportunity presents itself, probably kill myself.

My rationale is that even if I resist or managed to kill myself first, the man will find someone else, compounding the overall suffering and not changing the outcome for the girl. Freeing all three of us from the situation, killing the man if necessary, is naturally the first priority, but I would be ready for rape in order to get that opportunity.

In the worst case, I and the hostage are killed immediately once our purpose is fulfilled. In that case, nothing is accomplished by my action except saving the lives of another man and another hostage who might otherwise have been chosen. Possibly, I and the hostage are freed but unable to free the girl, in which case my action also minimized "my" hostage's suffering. In the best case, being freed gives me the opportunity to free the girl too, in which case my choice helped all of us in the long term.

Regardless of either, in the event that I am not able to free both, or in the event that they are unable to forgive my actions, I would likely see no option but to kill myself afterward.

[Alevuss]

There is a third option that results in no deaths, torture, or anything that would bring harm to anyone involved.

Wake up.