How Far Is TOO Far? Chronologically Delayed

[Cannot think of a name]

What's the point of this shitty OP?

I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make.

Slippery slope argument fail I think.

It's honestly the exact same one that's always used in cases of homosexuality, "If we accept homosexuality, why not pedophilia?" I mean, it's kind of time we call this shit out for what it is. What he's saying, essentially, is if a person 'feels in their heart' they're 14 then they should be allowed to mingle with fourteen year olds and all that entails, and if we're not okay with that why are we okay with people changing their gender...because those two things are the same in some bullshit convoluted way.

I mean, it's all dressed up and hedged, but it's the same old insulting bullshit of equating in this case transgender with pedophilia.

[Greed and Death]

Only Kant is allowed to make up new words to win arguments.

[Fartsniffage]

Only Kant is allowed to make up new words to win arguments.

But he's dead....

[Dyakovo]

So I was thinking about Transgendered people, and I was wondering if it could be applied other ways. I don't have any problems with it, but usually i think societal rules evolve for good reasons.

Anyways I thought about an application and I wast to see what you thought about it:

You are the principal of a high school. Students and their parents are enrolling them in their classes when you have an unusual problem. In comes Cindy, a girl who wants to enroll in 9th grade, She is a biological female, so no problems there. The problem is her age. She is 21. Yet she claims that she is " transchronological" and that she really is a freshman in high school.
Her father comes in with her, He explains to you that while she indeed IS 21, that she developmentally functions at a 15 year old level. Yes, she has been to high school, but a psychiatrist report you are given says that " because of her being transchronological, she functions at a level of a 15 year old. It would be recommended foe her to go through high school , since by that time her emotional and developmental delays will get better".
You observe her while her father dioes that talking, and you observe many childish behaviors. When her father mentions her developmental delay, Cindy rolls her eyes and becomes engrossed in her Iphone. She clearly is bored, and gives off body language that she would rather not be here.
Her father asks she be enrolled, and that since she is emotionally and developmentally delayed, that he be appraised of her behavior. He emphasises that she is not mentally delayed in any way, but that she needs as he says " more time to grow up" and feels that he would be an excellent student at your high school.
So do you take here? She IS 21 and, as most people consider, an adult? Do you refuse her?

My opinion is that transgendered people are all right. But as my example shows, what is excellent for male to female or female to male people can open a whole can of worms. What do you do? At what time do you put a stop to it? Oh, and YES, people that ARE developmentally delayed ( severely or profoundly retarded) CAN go to school to the age of 25. What rules should society set? I see a lot of chaos.

Gender is a societal construct, age is not.

[Greed and Death]

Only Kant is allowed to make up new words to win arguments.

But he's dead....

Then I do not have to deal with new words specially formulated to win an argument now do I ?

[Fartsniffage]

But he's dead....

Then I do not have to deal with new words specially formulated to win an argument now do I ?

Thou art i' th' worst rank of manhood.

Shakespeare would hate you......

[Chishimotata]

Slippery slope argument fail I think.

It's honestly the exact same one that's always used in cases of homosexuality, "If we accept homosexuality, why not pedophilia?" I mean, it's kind of time we call this shit out for what it is. What he's saying, essentially, is if a person 'feels in their heart' they're 14 then they should be allowed to mingle with fourteen year olds and all that entails, and if we're not okay with that why are we okay with people changing their gender...because those two things are the same in some bullshit convoluted way.

I mean, it's all dressed up and hedged, but it's the same old insulting bullshit of equating in this case transgender with pedophilia.

Or trans* as "I'm gonna ID as a robot now". Or dinosaurs. Or cats. Or walruses.

[Cannot think of a name]

It's honestly the exact same one that's always used in cases of homosexuality, "If we accept homosexuality, why not pedophilia?" I mean, it's kind of time we call this shit out for what it is. What he's saying, essentially, is if a person 'feels in their heart' they're 14 then they should be allowed to mingle with fourteen year olds and all that entails, and if we're not okay with that why are we okay with people changing their gender...because those two things are the same in some bullshit convoluted way.

I mean, it's all dressed up and hedged, but it's the same old insulting bullshit of equating in this case transgender with pedophilia.

Or trans* as "I'm gonna ID as a robot now". Or dinosaurs. Or cats. Or walruses.

Hey hey hey...hey...hey now. Ain't nuthin' wrong with warluses...

[Chishimotata]

Or trans* as "I'm gonna ID as a robot now". Or dinosaurs. Or cats. Or walruses.

Hey hey hey...hey...hey now. Ain't nuthin' wrong with warluses...

Of course not, CToAN. Now if you sit in this chair here...

[Trotskylvania]

Only Kant is allowed to make up new words to win arguments.

If we allow Kant to make up new words to win arguments, then we'd have to allow everyone to do it.

[Galloism]

Hell, what if a furrie who identifies as a dog wants to be walked by a person?

Craigslist.

I was going to say rule 34, but Craigslist is also an acceptable answer.


Wtf is this shit? Transchronoloigical?

I have a novel idea: lets generally let people do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else.

[Benuty]

Craigslist.

I was going to say rule 34, but Craigslist is also an acceptable answer.


Wtf is this shit? Transchronoloigical?

I have a novel idea: lets generally let people do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else.

Welcome to the party Sith Lord albeit you are a bit late.

[Galloism]

I was going to say rule 34, but Craigslist is also an acceptable answer.


Wtf is this shit? Transchronoloigical?

I have a novel idea: lets generally let people do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else.

Welcome to the party Sith Lord albeit you are a bit late.

So it seems.

It took longer affix enough lights to make my Death Star the biggest disco ball in the galaxy than originally planned.

[Arglorand]

I'm mildly confused. Is this some grandiose variation on the slippery slope fallacy?

[Galloism]

I'm mildly confused. Is this some grandiose variation on the slippery slope fallacy?

It's not that grandiose.

[Benuty]

I'm mildly confused. Is this some grandiose variation on the slippery slope fallacy?

Something like that not to mention a tidbit of "potential sexual deviance fallacious logic" added as seasoning.

[Arglorand]

I'm mildly confused. Is this some grandiose variation on the slippery slope fallacy?

It's not that grandiose.

Well, it's certainly ambitious. Seems to be reaching for largely nonexistent concepts such as transchronology. Reaching so far it's long gone beyond the zone of reason and logic. Hardly even in the zone of high fantasy anymore.

[Newzie]

So I was thinking about Transgendered people, and I was wondering if it could be applied other ways. I don't have any problems with it, but usually i think societal rules evolve for good reasons.

Anyways I thought about an application and I wast to see what you thought about it:

You are the principal of a high school. Students and their parents are enrolling them in their classes when you have an unusual problem. In comes Cindy, a girl who wants to enroll in 9th grade, She is a biological female, so no problems there. The problem is her age. She is 21. Yet she claims that she is " transchronological" and that she really is a freshman in high school.
Her father comes in with her, He explains to you that while she indeed IS 21, that she developmentally functions at a 15 year old level. Yes, she has been to high school, but a psychiatrist report you are given says that " because of her being transchronological, she functions at a level of a 15 year old. It would be recommended foe her to go through high school , since by that time her emotional and developmental delays will get better".
You observe her while her father dioes that talking, and you observe many childish behaviors. When her father mentions her developmental delay, Cindy rolls her eyes and becomes engrossed in her Iphone. She clearly is bored, and gives off body language that she would rather not be here.
Her father asks she be enrolled, and that since she is emotionally and developmentally delayed, that he be appraised of her behavior. He emphasises that she is not mentally delayed in any way, but that she needs as he says " more time to grow up" and feels that he would be an excellent student at your high school.
So do you take here? She IS 21 and, as most people consider, an adult? Do you refuse her?

My opinion is that transgendered people are all right. But as my example shows, what is excellent for male to female or female to male people can open a whole can of worms. What do you do? At what time do you put a stop to it? Oh, and YES, people that ARE developmentally delayed ( severely or profoundly retarded) CAN go to school to the age of 25. What rules should society set? I see a lot of chaos.

Firstly, of course.


Secondly, what the fuck.

[Cannot think of a name]

It's not that grandiose.

Well, it's certainly ambitious. Seems to be reaching for largely nonexistent concepts such as transchronology. Reaching so far it's long gone beyond the zone of reason and logic. Hardly even in the zone of high fantasy anymore.

It's just a variation on the old chestnut of 'if gays, then pedophiles.'

[Ethel mermania]

as to the girl in the OP, the girl would be considered developementally delayed and placed into the appropiate special ed facility with the least restrictive enviorment.

[Dracoria]

Well, it's certainly ambitious. Seems to be reaching for largely nonexistent concepts such as transchronology. Reaching so far it's long gone beyond the zone of reason and logic. Hardly even in the zone of high fantasy anymore.

It's just a variation on the old chestnut of 'if gays, then pedophiles.'

I'm kind of sick of that argument. Whatever happened to 'If gays, then polygamy.'? That was a fun one.

[Greed and Death]

Only Kant is allowed to make up new words to win arguments.

If we allow Kant to make up new words to win arguments, then we'd have to allow everyone to do it.

Ok only those as brilliant as Kant are allowed to do it.
So Kant, Nietzsche and maybe Socrates.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Hey hey hey...hey...hey now. Ain't nuthin' wrong with warluses...

It is our community who is the real victim here.

[Ethel mermania]

I'm mildly confused. Is this some grandiose variation on the slippery slope fallacy?

It's not that grandiose.

i want to know what school district would place an adult in a HS freshman classroom?.

[Greed and Death]

It's not that grandiose.

i want to know what school district would place an adult in a HS freshman classroom?.

They always place at least one in every HS class rooms.