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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:17 am

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Ebanteos wrote:The United States has a freedom of or from religion. Christians, Atheists , Muslims, and all others have right to express their opinions on religious belief.

And yet, the president's oath requires the phrase "I will obey god" in it."

No it doesn't.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:26 am

I'm anti-Christian, I garner support from the masses of NS. I'm anti-muslim, I garner shame from them. (this one confuses me the most)

I'm anti-capitalist, I gain respect for being a "rebel". I call the capitalists builders of the economy, I'm called a lunatic.

I'm for gay marriage (which I am), I'm called more "modern". I say I don't believe homosexuality is right, I'm called a homophobic closed-minded right wing loser that is having sex with his/her siblings.

Sorry, but the world, especially NS, is so damn bias it makes me sick. If you went anti-Christian, you would have the support of most everyone. It's life.

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Oh, you can spam me now with "arguments", but I'm pretty sure this is the general consensus of NS.


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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:39 am

The Ben Boys wrote:If you went anti-Christian, you would have the support of most everyone


Haha really ? this forum is full of islam haters, and even atheists don't hesitate to revile islam collaborating with christians here. If they do this, I will not hesitate to defend islam against such two-faced atheist-looking christian lovers here.

History of Christianity is full of blood, genocide and massacres much more than islam. Who remembers woman massacres in Medieval Age Europe ? who remembers inquisitions ?
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Postby Kulnae » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:41 am

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The Ben Boys wrote:If you went anti-Christian, you would have the support of most everyone


Haha really ? this forum is full of islam haters, and even atheists don't hesitate to revile islam collaborating with christians here. If they do this, I will not hesitate to defend islam against such two-faced atheist-looking christian lovers here.


As I have said before, not all Christian hate Islam. I for one am Pro-Palestine, and my best friend is Muslim. Stop with the hating people! Just love everyone :hug:
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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:42 am

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Kemaliste wrote:
Haha really ? this forum is full of islam haters, and even atheists don't hesitate to revile islam collaborating with christians here. If they do this, I will not hesitate to defend islam against such two-faced atheist-looking christian lovers here.


As I have said before, not all Christian hate Islam. I for one am Pro-Palestine, and my best friend is Muslim. Stop with the hating people! Just love everyone :hug:


I don't talk to all christians. I talk to two-faced and disingenuous people.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:43 am

A lot of 'atheists' are actually just people looking to be edgy and cool. And so they also have to run around berating people for thinking that Islam is pretty much the most disgusting of all the three Abrahamic faiths.

Also, it helps them with their 'left wing' identity.

It's pathetic really.

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Postby Kulnae » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:46 am

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Kulnae wrote:
As I have said before, not all Christian hate Islam. I for one am Pro-Palestine, and my best friend is Muslim. Stop with the hating people! Just love everyone :hug:


I don't talk to all christians. I talk to two-faced and disingenuous people.


Oh that's fine then.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:48 am

Lacadaemon wrote:A lot of 'atheists' are actually just people looking to be edgy and cool. And so they also have to run around berating people for thinking that Islam is pretty much the most disgusting of all the three Abrahamic faiths.

Also, it helps them with their 'left wing' identity.

It's pathetic really.

Anyway, thread needs poll.

:rofl:

Oh, wait... You were serious weren't you?
Meh... Just shows yet another thing that you have absolutely no clue about.
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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:50 am

Lacadaemon wrote:A lot of 'atheists' are actually just people looking to be edgy and cool. And so they also have to run around berating people for thinking that Islam is pretty much the most disgusting of all the three Abrahamic faiths.

Also, it helps them with their 'left wing' identity.

It's pathetic really.

Anyway, thread needs poll.


No, It's not because they are atheists. It's about their personality problems. They tend to be the same whatever they support or believe in. So-called atheists who attack only a religion while ignoring others, he is biased, he has sympathy toward other ones and he can not represent atheism here. They are just miserable snooties. I feel sorry for them. They will never be able to have a certain personality.
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Postby Kulverint » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:15 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Kulverint wrote:And yet, the president's oath requires the phrase "I will obey god" in it."

No it doesn't.
Oath of Office wrote:I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Oh. I must be mistaken. I stand corrected.

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Postby The Ben Boys » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:15 am

Kemaliste wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:If you went anti-Christian, you would have the support of most everyone


Haha really ? this forum is full of islam haters, and even atheists don't hesitate to revile islam collaborating with christians here. If they do this, I will not hesitate to defend islam against such two-faced atheist-looking christian lovers here.

History of Christianity is full of blood, genocide and massacres much more than islam. Who remembers woman massacres in Medieval Age Europe ? who remembers inquisitions ?

I haven't seen the first very much.

And the second has absolutely nothing to do with my post. So is Judaism and paganism by the way. I already know that, and the was by the corrupt and retarded church. They were just power-seekers that didn't care about the religion.

Speaking of which, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and I believe Mao were atheists. Yeah, everyone sucks, right?
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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:20 am

The Ben Boys wrote:They were just power-seekers that didn't care about the religion.


Hehe, but when it comes to islam, people like to criticize it mentioning Al Qaeda and Taliban. They are '' islamic terrorists '' but the Catholic Church, representer of christianity is just a '' power-seeker '' and that Norwegian guy who killed the people in the name of christianity is just a mad, not '' christian terrorist '' and we can't blame christianity for this.

I hate hypocrisy the most after prejudice.
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Postby Kulnae » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:24 am

Kemaliste wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:They were just power-seekers that didn't care about the religion.


Hehe, but when it comes to islam, people like to criticize it mentioning Al Qaeda and Taliban. They are '' islamic terrorists '' but the Catholic Church, representer of christianity is just a '' power-seeker '' and that Norwegian guy who killed the people in the name of christianity is just a mad, not '' christian terrorist '' and we can't blame christianity for this.

I hate hypocrisy the most after prejudice.


I know! And when there was that murderer in Norway, the Daily Fail/Mail assumed it was carried out by Muslims. They had to stop printing to correct their mistake.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:24 am

Kemaliste wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:They were just power-seekers that didn't care about the religion.


Hehe, but when it comes to islam, people like to criticize it mentioning Al Qaeda and Taliban. They are '' islamic terrorists '' but the Catholic Church, representer of christianity is just a '' power-seeker '' and that Norwegian guy who killed the people in the name of christianity is just a mad, not '' christian terrorist '' and we can't blame christianity for this.

You generalizing. He was a terrorist, and Charlemagne was no different. They gave Christianity a bad name, all in the "name of God". And no, don't blame Christianity as a whole, I don't blame Islam as a whole for the Taliban or Al-queda. An act of a few wackos shouldn't bring you all the way down.


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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:32 am

The Ben Boys wrote:
Kemaliste wrote:
Hehe, but when it comes to islam, people like to criticize it mentioning Al Qaeda and Taliban. They are '' islamic terrorists '' but the Catholic Church, representer of christianity is just a '' power-seeker '' and that Norwegian guy who killed the people in the name of christianity is just a mad, not '' christian terrorist '' and we can't blame christianity for this.

You generalizing. He was a terrorist, and Charlemagne was no different. They gave Christianity a bad name, all in the "name of God". And no, don't blame Christianity as a whole, I don't blame Islam as a whole for the Taliban or Al-queda. An act of a few wackos shouldn't bring you all the way down.


I don't think different. But the media called him mad, crazy etc. not terrorist. If he was a muslim, they would call him terrorist. They would curse him like a crazy. It was written that it would probably be a islamic terrorist attack before the responsible had been found anyway. I was just trying to point out that such people have mental problems with ironical words. Otherwise I have enough knowledge about the facts of the history of christianity and other religions, don't worry. That's how I left them.
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Postby Rejaina » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:41 am

Folder Land wrote:In my opinion, American Atheists(not all) but most really go easy on Islam. They support public school baning pork from school grounds, making speical room and/or times for Muslims to pray and teaching in the classrooms how Islam is such a opressed religion. That how the evil west has to respect them treating their women like feces, killing GLBT people and etc.

I happen to be a homosexual and atheist and I believe I have no reason respect Islam. I don't respect the Arab and Muslim world just like they don't respect me. When my teacher says there was no such thing as white slaves, I will say three words "Arab Slave Trade".


One Atheist aren't easy on Islam trust me they hate it as much as they hate christianity. Two you should respect all religions but you don't have to like them. Three I'm muslim and I don't kill gays. Three Islam is a very oppressed religion especially i American society just becasue the only times islam is heard mainstream it's usually for something not so kosher and because the U.S. supports Israel. Also Islam has there own times to pray the schools don't create them and we as muslims don't treat our women as feces if anything we treat them better then most American men.
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Postby Quelesh » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:33 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:Speaking of which, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and I believe Mao were atheists. Yeah, everyone sucks, right?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitl ... ious_views

Hitler opposed organized religion, but his statements certainly do not indicate that he was an atheist.
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Postby Red Indies » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:38 pm

Stalinism basically required belief in whatever ideological standpoint the party happened to be stating at the moment, which could hardly be described as atheist.

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Postby Bottle » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:14 am

The Ben Boys wrote:I'm anti-Christian, I garner support from the masses of NS. I'm anti-muslim, I garner shame from them. (this one confuses me the most)

The majority of posters on NSG are from countries where Christianity is far and away the dominant religion. Thus, if you attack Christianity you are speaking truth to power; if you attack Islam, you are attacking a religious minority who actually have almost no power and tend to be targets of discrimination.

The Ben Boys wrote:I'm anti-capitalist, I gain respect for being a "rebel". I call the capitalists builders of the economy, I'm called a lunatic.

This one is just a lie. On NSG, you'll get attacked AND praised for both of those. I know because I've been attacked (and praised) for both, equally, for all the years I've been here.

The Ben Boys wrote:I'm for gay marriage (which I am), I'm called more "modern". I say I don't believe homosexuality is right, I'm called a homophobic closed-minded right wing loser that is having sex with his/her siblings.

Yes, if you support legal equality then you will be (rightfully) viewed as being reasonable and modern. If you advocate legal inequity and homophobia, then you're a homophobe. The other crap you tacked on the end is just hyperbolic BS and you know it.

The Ben Boys wrote:Oh, you can spam me now with "arguments", but I'm pretty sure this is the general consensus of NS.

Glad you made sure to include this at the end of your post, to make it clear that you aren't interested in "arguments," you just wanted to whine. No wonder you find yourself attacked around here...NSG has little patience for cowardly, pathetic behavior of this sort.
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