Secruss wrote:"I think shotguns and hunting rifles should be available to farmers etc who actually put good use to weapons. Why would anyone else need a gun? I'm quite happy with the way things are over here."Which country are you from?
England.
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by Nordfire » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:37 pm
Secruss wrote:"I think shotguns and hunting rifles should be available to farmers etc who actually put good use to weapons. Why would anyone else need a gun? I'm quite happy with the way things are over here."Which country are you from?
by Secruss » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:41 pm
by Gun Manufacturers » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:42 pm
Nordfire wrote:I think shotguns and hunting rifles should be available to farmers etc who actually put good use to weapons. Why would anyone else need a gun? I'm quite happy with the way things are over here.
Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...
Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo
Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.
Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.
by Nordfire » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:44 pm
Gun Manufacturers wrote:I need a rifle for putting holes in paper from 100+ yards away. See, I can't throw the bullets that accurately or that far, so my rifle does it for me.
Gun Manufacturers wrote:My sister and brother in law law need firearms to put deer meat in the freezer, and to get rid of the burrowing animals that keep digging holes in their yard (which cause trip hazards for their kids, family, and friends).
by Galloism » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:45 pm
Nordfire wrote:Gun Manufacturers wrote:My sister and brother in law law need firearms to put deer meat in the freezer, and to get rid of the burrowing animals that keep digging holes in their yard (which cause trip hazards for their kids, family, and friends).
That's putting guns to good use, which I have no problem with.
by Nordfire » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:46 pm
Secruss wrote:I got nothing to say about England's laws. I don't live there, so I can't take part.
by Nordfire » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:48 pm
Galloism wrote:I need one because I live in a bad neighborhood where even the police are afraid to go after dark.
by Galloism » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:50 pm
Nordfire wrote:Galloism wrote:I need one because I live in a bad neighborhood where even the police are afraid to go after dark.
Do the criminals in said neighbourhood own guns?
by Gun Manufacturers » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:51 pm
Nordfire wrote:Gun Manufacturers wrote:I need a rifle for putting holes in paper from 100+ yards away. See, I can't throw the bullets that accurately or that far, so my rifle does it for me.
Humourous, but not a decent reason to have a gun.Gun Manufacturers wrote:My sister and brother in law law need firearms to put deer meat in the freezer, and to get rid of the burrowing animals that keep digging holes in their yard (which cause trip hazards for their kids, family, and friends).
That's putting guns to good use, which I have no problem with.
Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...
Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo
Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.
Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.
by Sevengates » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:52 pm
Maurepas wrote:Depends, I would say the government has no right to take your guns away....
However if your arsenal starts to out step the US military, then there are problems...
by Sevengates » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:57 pm
Nordfire wrote:Humourous, but not a decent reason to have a gun.
by Bluth Corporation » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:20 pm
The Cat-Tribe wrote:Neither the Second Amendment nor any natural right to bear arms is absolute.
Just like with free speech or any other right, there are some limitations on the right.
In the ground-breaking case of District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. ___ (2008), SCOTUS made clear for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm. BUT the Court limited the scope of its decision to the possession and legal use of handguns. FURTHER, the Court was very clear that such a right was far from absolute or applied to all weapons
by Saige Dragon » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:44 pm
by Bluth Corporation » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:53 pm
Saige Dragon wrote:I don't honestly have a problem with firearm registration either.
by Saige Dragon » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:54 pm
Bluth Corporation wrote:Saige Dragon wrote:I don't honestly have a problem with firearm registration either.
Makes it way too easy for the tyrants to confiscate them all.
by Phenia » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:57 pm
Bluth Corporation wrote:This is incorrect. All rights are absolute.
Bluth Corporation wrote:Not legitimately.
Bluth Corporation wrote:Irrelevant. The Supreme Court is not the arbiter of our rights; objective moral principle is.
by Altergo » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:00 pm
Bluth Corporation wrote:Saige Dragon wrote:I don't honestly have a problem with firearm registration either.
Makes it way too easy for the tyrants to confiscate them all.
by Metallic Slumber » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:00 pm
Brogavia wrote:This is by far the most unlikely thing that has ever happened.
NSG, without its a gun control debate? Its madness I tell you!.
But really, where do you stand on Victim disarmarment aka gun control?
Personally, I believe that there are no constitutionally allowable restrictions on a citizens right to own a firearm.
by Der Teutoniker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:03 pm
Maurepas wrote:Depends, I would say the government has no right to take your guns away....
However if your arsenal starts to out step the US military, then there are problems...
South Lorenya wrote:occasionally we get someone who has a rap sheet longer than Jormungandr
Austin Setzer wrote:We found a couple of ancient documents, turned them into the bible, and now its the symbol of christianity.
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by Bluth Corporation » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:05 pm
Saige Dragon wrote:Bluth Corporation wrote:Saige Dragon wrote:I don't honestly have a problem with firearm registration either.
Makes it way too easy for the tyrants to confiscate them all.
I live in Canada. There aren't any tyrants.
by Bluth Corporation » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:06 pm
Phenia wrote:Bluth Corporation wrote:This is incorrect. All rights are absolute.
That is not an argument.
copied and pasted catch-phrases.
by Bluth Corporation » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:07 pm
Der Teutoniker wrote:But the point at which people expect the gov't to start handing out tank licensure, or heavy ordinance permits,
by Saige Dragon » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:09 pm
Bluth Corporation wrote:Are there taxes? If so, then there are tyrants.
Are there laws keeping you from putting whatever you want in your own body? If so, then there are tyrants.
Are there laws keeping you from deciding for yourself who you will and will not deal with in your business proceedings, and basing those decision on whatever criteria you choose? If so, then there are tyrants.
And this is ignoring the potentiality of future tyrants who are even worse, and for whom you need to be prepared beforehand.
Wikipedia wrote:In modern usage, a tyrant carries modern connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population which the tyrant governs or controls.
by Farnhamia » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:13 pm
Saige Dragon wrote:Bluth Corporation wrote:Are there taxes? If so, then there are tyrants.
Are there laws keeping you from putting whatever you want in your own body? If so, then there are tyrants.
Are there laws keeping you from deciding for yourself who you will and will not deal with in your business proceedings, and basing those decision on whatever criteria you choose? If so, then there are tyrants.
And this is ignoring the potentiality of future tyrants who are even worse, and for whom you need to be prepared beforehand.Wikipedia wrote:In modern usage, a tyrant carries modern connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population which the tyrant governs or controls.
I live in Canada. There aren't any tyrants.
by Der Teutoniker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:14 pm
Saige Dragon wrote:Wikipedia wrote:In modern usage, a tyrant carries modern connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population which the tyrant governs or controls.
I live in Canada. There aren't any tyrants.
South Lorenya wrote:occasionally we get someone who has a rap sheet longer than Jormungandr
Austin Setzer wrote:We found a couple of ancient documents, turned them into the bible, and now its the symbol of christianity.
ARM Forces wrote:Strep-throat is an infection in the throat, caused by eating too much refined sugar! Rubbing more sugar directly on it is the worst thing you can possibly do.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Communism and anarchy; same unachievable end, different impractical means.
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