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Postby Grenartia » Wed Sep 23, 2026 4:33 am

Untecna wrote:
Imperial Amber wrote:Oh, got it. Never mind then.

To provide a more detailed answer, offensive operations are conducted by the Galactic Armada only if a Do-Not-Defend (DND) request is approved. Defenders use these requests, which may come from any organization, to determine whether the proposed target is defendable. If Vristic was not an approved target, then Starlight and Horizon would not have participated in the offensive operation against it. Most* other militaries, including fellow defender forces, lodge DND requests when necessary and comply with the determinations made on those requests.

If a request is not lodged, or is unapproved but the operation is carried out anyway, defenders can and will perform any operations necessary to defend the target region and restore it to its previous condition. As active defenders that morning did not intervene, it can be reasonably figured out that a DND request for Vristic was lodged and approved, and then communicated to relevant parties.

I would stress that it is hardly a good idea to talk about "patterns" or suppose regions as next targets. Vristic had specific reasons for having an offensive operation carried out against it, and those reasons do not imply that any future operations will arise targeting other regions. There's not been any indication that The Dominion of Order is a possible target. Suggesting that it could be one is nothing more than fearmongering in what HR correctly described as a "pointless, utterly dishonest crusade."


*To my knowledge, every defender and independent force lodges DND requests when necessary. Some raider forces do not; the People's Revolutionary Air Force (TCB's military) are infamous for avoiding submission of DND requests, for example.


This is the first I'm hearing of DNDs as a concept.

Based on what you're saying, it seems like there has to be some sort of centralized venue for DND reqs to be posted, approved, and disseminated among defender groups.
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Postby Merethin » Wed Sep 23, 2026 4:57 am

Grenartia wrote:
Untecna wrote:To provide a more detailed answer, offensive operations are conducted by the Galactic Armada only if a Do-Not-Defend (DND) request is approved. Defenders use these requests, which may come from any organization, to determine whether the proposed target is defendable. If Vristic was not an approved target, then Starlight and Horizon would not have participated in the offensive operation against it. Most* other militaries, including fellow defender forces, lodge DND requests when necessary and comply with the determinations made on those requests.

If a request is not lodged, or is unapproved but the operation is carried out anyway, defenders can and will perform any operations necessary to defend the target region and restore it to its previous condition. As active defenders that morning did not intervene, it can be reasonably figured out that a DND request for Vristic was lodged and approved, and then communicated to relevant parties.

I would stress that it is hardly a good idea to talk about "patterns" or suppose regions as next targets. Vristic had specific reasons for having an offensive operation carried out against it, and those reasons do not imply that any future operations will arise targeting other regions. There's not been any indication that The Dominion of Order is a possible target. Suggesting that it could be one is nothing more than fearmongering in what HR correctly described as a "pointless, utterly dishonest crusade."


*To my knowledge, every defender and independent force lodges DND requests when necessary. Some raider forces do not; the People's Revolutionary Air Force (TCB's military) are infamous for avoiding submission of DND requests, for example.


This is the first I'm hearing of DNDs as a concept.

Based on what you're saying, it seems like there has to be some sort of centralized venue for DND reqs to be posted, approved, and disseminated among defender groups.

There is a centralized venue for defender operations in general - the Libcord discord server and its associated jump point Eta. DND requests are discussed and approved by Libcord commanders, contacting any one of them for a request will suffice.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Sep 26, 2026 5:35 am

Merethin wrote:
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This is the first I'm hearing of DNDs as a concept.

Based on what you're saying, it seems like there has to be some sort of centralized venue for DND reqs to be posted, approved, and disseminated among defender groups.

There is a centralized venue for defender operations in general - the Libcord discord server and its associated jump point Eta. DND requests are discussed and approved by Libcord commanders, contacting any one of them for a request will suffice.


I see. Thank you for the clarification.
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Postby Nubilis » Sun Sep 27, 2026 5:50 am

DNDs are also when big defenders decide to let the competition die instead of openly defending all victims.
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Postby Oseao » Sun Sep 27, 2026 7:42 am

Nubilis wrote:DNDs are also when big defenders decide to let the competition die instead of openly defending all victims.

This, surprise surprise I know, is actually not a metric for how a Do Not Defend gets considered!
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Postby Omnicontrol » Sun Sep 27, 2026 7:55 am

Oseao wrote:
Nubilis wrote:DNDs are also when big defenders decide to let the competition die instead of openly defending all victims.

This, surprise surprise I know, is actually not a metric for how a Do Not Defend gets considered!

I thought you just divided Libcord command into "defend" and "do not defend" teams and played a game of darts to settle it.
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Postby Doge Republics » Sun Sep 27, 2026 3:18 pm

Nubilis wrote:DNDs are also when big defenders decide to let the competition die instead of openly defending all victims.

Hilarious framing when your region only exists today because of defenderdom.
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Postby Stevist Guam » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:54 am

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The Movement of The Heavens


Good evening, friends!

On behalf of the Triune Circle of Starlight, its our honor to announce the ratification of the Movement of the Heavens, a bilateral Mutual Defense Treaty with the West Pacific. For a while, Starlight and Horizon has been cooperating with the West Pacific in almost every arena of the game, from military gameplay and cultural cooperation to advancing National Sovereignist causes in the World Assembly via the Sovereign Seven. This treaty ratifies that rich cooperation to text and confirms our desires to continue this partnership long into the future. We’re grateful to the West Pacific for all of their consideration and cooperation, and we're very optimistic about our future together as full treaty partners!

Read the treaty text here!


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Postby Oseao » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:02 am

Looking forward to a new era of friendship with The West!

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Postby The Three Rivers Nations » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:04 am

Amazing! It’s wonderful to see our circle of friends continue to expand! I’m excited to work more with you all in the future!
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Postby Hesitant Dispatch 440 » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:07 am

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Postby Untecna » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:09 am

Amazing work from our FA team!
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Postby Nubilis » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:11 am

Sad how the superpowers are afraid of the UEPU FR so much they had to create the Sovereign Seven :blink:
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:29 am

Nubilis wrote:Sad how the superpowers are afraid of the UEPU FR so much they had to create the Sovereign Seven :blink:

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Good to see this treaty with Starlight & Horizon.
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Postby Eieryn » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:33 am

Congratulations to Starlight and Horizon for this further cooperation with their allies of the West Pacific !
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Postby Idinist » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:40 am

Great work by FA as always. Looking forward to seeing what we achieve with our friends in TWP going forward!
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Postby Ubertas » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:53 am

Happy to see this! Onwards and upwards! Ad Astra per snarka!
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Postby Centennium » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:56 am

I am super excited about this treaty, can't wait to see where it will take our friendship ^-^

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Postby Heavens Reach » Thu Oct 01, 2026 5:27 pm

Very nice to see the relationship between two of our allies and WA partners advance in this way
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Voice of the Stars - Twelfth Edition - Starry Eyed
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Hi hi, Starlight & Horizon and NationStates more generally! It's now once again the end of the month, which means it's time for a new edition of the Voice of the Stars under Aav's Ministry of Media! This edition features a World Assembly Update and an Armada recap, during which we launched a highly successful operation alongside our friends in Talonia. We also have a brand new Foreign Affairs Update from our Minister of Foreign Affairs, Celia, alongside a culture update and an interview with Cuchimilco (Gonggong) from the world of Dawnbreak!

Read all about it and upvote below!

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=2820746

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Postby Oseao » Sat Oct 03, 2026 7:58 am

Another wonderful edition from Aav and Media!

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Postby East Chimore » Sat Oct 03, 2026 8:39 am

Very well put together edition, and I appreciate the newspaper feel from the formatting and font.

Also an interesting article on the 'honorary sinker' moniker - one I hadn't heard before but it seems very apt. I appreciate the Good that y'all are putting into your community and NS as a whole.
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Postby Oseao » Sat Oct 03, 2026 8:46 am

East Chimore wrote:Very well put together edition, and I appreciate the newspaper feel from the formatting and font.

Also an interesting article on the 'honorary sinker' moniker - one I hadn't heard before but it seems very apt. I appreciate the Good that y'all are putting into your community and NS as a whole.

I would say that said moniker was largely originally given to us as a joke, but we have adopted it into one of our various regional symbols over time - and I personally think it fits quite nicely.
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Postby Omnicontrol » Sat Oct 03, 2026 8:48 am

The Pacific officially crowned as the world's first backwater GCR. Unless you count the warzones. But backwater Feeder doesn't have the same ring to it.

Jokes aside, amazing read as always. My heart goes out to whoever had to wrangle the BBCode to make it look nice, that's always a pain to do.
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