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Which of These Should be Idaho's State Gun?

Winchester Model 1894
18
19%
Winchester Model 1873
5
5%
1873 Colt Single Action Army Revolver
4
4%
M1 Garand rifle
29
31%
Colt M1911 .45 automatic Colt pistol
3
3%
Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle
3
3%
None of the Above
33
35%
 
Total votes : 95

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Valreisches Kaiserreich
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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:05 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
where was the respect from your side when a state senator was murdered in her home along with her husband and dog from your side?

Literally nobody talked about that until Charlie Kirk was assassinated. You are using her as a whataboutistic tool.

So because nobody talked about it, it's fine to just ignore political assassinations unless it's against someone who shares your beliefs? Quite the slippery slope, there.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:06 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
where was the respect from your side when a state senator was murdered in her home along with her husband and dog from your side?

Literally nobody talked about that until Charlie Kirk was assassinated. You are using her as a whataboutistic tool.

Floofybit wrote:If you have an issue with someone's actions, why would you match them yourself?

I'd rather be the dog than be the tree.


Plenty of people did your side just refused too because she was the wrong party.

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Postby Floofybit » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:06 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
where was the respect from your side when a state senator was murdered in her home along with her husband and dog from your side?

Literally nobody talked about that until Charlie Kirk was assassinated. You are using her as a whataboutistic tool.

Floofybit wrote:If you have an issue with someone's actions, why would you match them yourself?

I'd rather be the dog than be the tree.

Dogs are man's best friend. They'd mourn everyone. The tree would be happy for more fertiliser

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:06 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:Literally nobody talked about that until Charlie Kirk was assassinated. You are using her as a whataboutistic tool.

So because nobody talked about it, it's fine to just ignore political assassinations unless it's against someone who shares your beliefs? Quite the slippery slope, there.

You are attempting to change the topic so hard. You well know her death was far less mocked by the right than Kirk's by the left.

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Postby Holy Federation of Stars » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:08 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
where was the respect from your side when a state senator was murdered in her home along with her husband and dog from your side?

Literally nobody talked about that until Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

What?

The Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk was not talked about until he was assassinated?

One of the major figures of the late 2010s alt-right pipeline and a close ally of Ben Shapiro was not talked about?

The major Trump media Ally Charlie?

Small Face Charlie?

Do we live in the same universe, mate?
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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:10 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:So because nobody talked about it, it's fine to just ignore political assassinations unless it's against someone who shares your beliefs? Quite the slippery slope, there.

You are attempting to change the topic so hard. You well know her death was far less mocked by the right than Kirk's by the left.

A fair point. Yet Charlie Kirk was a well-known political figure who advocated for reactionary policies and believed deaths from gun violence were an acceptable price for less restrictions on gun control, so his death was mocked because it was fairly ironic. But Good and Pretti were not political figures, they were average Americans who simply exercised their rights to protest government overreach, and were murdered by federal agents who refuse to investigate the situation around their deaths.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:11 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:So because nobody talked about it, it's fine to just ignore political assassinations unless it's against someone who shares your beliefs? Quite the slippery slope, there.

You are attempting to change the topic so hard. You well know her death was far less mocked by the right than Kirk's by the left.


No one on the right talked about jut they refuse to criticize the Gestapo and fire the whole bloody lot of them.

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:11 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Adamede wrote:Seeing all of the hateful rhetoric online form people celebrating Alex and Renee’s death I don’t want to ever hear anything about fucking Charlie Kirk ever again

Why are we expected to mourn rioters when you didn't respect a literal father getting assassinated in front of his family? It's a shame they died, sure, but let's not pretend they were saints.

Because he wasn’t a fucking rioter. You’re just straight up fucking lying to justify the murder of an innocent man by jackboot thugs in the streets. I know you just fucking live this because that’s all your ideology fucking is, masturbating over the thought of killing innocent people because fascists are hateful evil miserable people with holes in their hearts but you being a bunch of boot licking psychopaths doesn’t change reality, and people are waking up you your alls pathetic bullshit.

You all whined and cried and talked anti leftist violence but then the moment this shit happens you can barely contain yourselves and soul your pants in glee, at the idea that you can fucking kill without consequences. That’s what you’re so disturbed at people wanting to defend the doves, because you want unarmed and easy victims to militate and torture and slaughter.

Your ideology is scum. It is inhuman. Monstrous. Self destructive. Hollow.

You stand for nothing but spreading suffering and misery to you fellow man.

You don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, not even his wife does. You all used him as a prop, and she went on to hone JD Vance before Charlie’s body was even cold and buried. Because that’s what you all are, jackals with no morals or love in your hearts.

You hate humanity. You hate anything that you can’t control.

Alex Pretti at the very least died trying to help a woman who was being knocked to the ground by ICE agents. People who lick boots think that must mean she deserved it because for them authority is morality because they hate thinking for themselves. You want a strongman to tell what to do and what to think and what to feel because you fear the unknown, you hear freedom. Even if the system crashes and burns down the nation and kills you with it you’ll still support it with a smile because at least those different than you will suffer too.
Making is you’re all going to far for people to not notice anymore. That’s why you’re all so just wishing out and trying to create false narratives, thing is you’re all so stuck in your echo chambered you can’t realize you’re the only ones buying the shit your selling.

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Postby Slembana » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:12 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pretty much. We have a DHS Secretary who cosplays her way through her job (and I've heard that Corey Lewandowski is really calling the shots at DHS), an absent Attorney General and a missing FBI Director (not that it matters, really), the head of Border Patrol doing the 1930s and 40s Hugo Boss overcoat thing, and I don't even know how to characterize Stephen Miller (Seth Meyers used to play a thunderclap whenever he said Miller's name).

Cruelty is the point. They want us afraid. They haven't come to where I live, not yet.


Stephen Miller is probably the closest thing we've got to the AntiChrist. A genuine psychopath effectively ruling from the shadows while Dementia Don basically does whatever he "suggests" like a sith lord whispering over his shoulder. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out Miller is an actual serial killer.

Miller is the embodiment of evil.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:12 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:So because nobody talked about it, it's fine to just ignore political assassinations unless it's against someone who shares your beliefs? Quite the slippery slope, there.

You are attempting to change the topic so hard. You well know her death was far less mocked by the right than Kirk's by the left.

Again with the aliens. Good and Pretti’s deaths are being custody mocked by this government and its remaining supporters. Only reason it’s not even more common in right wing circles is because so many are becoming disgusted with you all.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:15 pm

GMS wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
So you are just in favour of masked man carrying out summary executions on the streets. Multiple videos have been posted in this very thread unambiguously showing he didn't brandish the gun, but you choose to keep repeating the mantras anyway. To the surprise of absolutely nobody.



The day ICE, Trump or the Republicans do something worth praising, they will receive praise. I actually do have a handful of posts in my long post history praising Trump and the Republicans for very occasional good things. Do you have the same?

But today, ICE is carrying out summary executions of American citizens in the streets and you support them doing so. It is clear we are indeed reversed- I am a friend of freedom and you are an enemy of freedom.




Links or it didn't happen. I pointblank think you are lying here.



And that is the fucking problem. Millions of you support masked man carrying out summary executions of Americans on the streets.

GMS, I have answered all the questions, my way and in my own words and style. I think like most Republicans and President Trump on all these issues. You guys think like most leftist democrats, real leftists and other anti Trumps on all these issues. We are even in reverse, I respect it and accept it while thinking different.

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I Ain't Never Lied about Politics, it is on my GMS Sigs.

I dont care if Adamede says I support ICE Agents murdering and executing American citizens, because I and us obviously dont support ICE Agents murdering and executing American Citizens and Illegal migrants. Adamede's Post viewtopic.php?p=43360811#p43360811. Adamede's nation https://www.nationstates.net/nation=adamede. It does not bother me.

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Well, I used to respect it too, but then I realised your side supports masked men brutalising people on the streets without rhyme or reason, and frankly have lost that respect. And you are not doing much to earn it back, sitting here typing in support of ICE gunning down innocent people.

Link the post where you criticise Trump for his stance on Kurdistan. If there is genuinely a post where you do so it would be trivial for you to prove you aren't lying. This bluster makes me think the opposite though.

Adamede speaks the truth. You support ICE agents carrying out summary executions of American citizens. If you didn't it would be obvious. Instead you call the people killed terrorists and insist they are armed when every video blatantly shows they were not while they are shot, and continue to do so even after those videos are posted on this thread.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:15 pm

Slembana wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Stephen Miller is probably the closest thing we've got to the AntiChrist. A genuine psychopath effectively ruling from the shadows while Dementia Don basically does whatever he "suggests" like a sith lord whispering over his shoulder. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out Miller is an actual serial killer.

Miller is the embodiment of evil.

A lot of people say Trump's just a puppet for Miller, and that's probably true because our wannabe Dictator-in-Chief has two feet in the grave already. But that shouldn't dismiss from the fact that Trump's an evil motherfucker as well, just that he lacks the intelligence to actually be anything more than a petulant child without Miller whispering in his ear like a devil on his shoulder.
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Postby Slembana » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:16 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:
Slembana wrote:Miller is the embodiment of evil.

A lot of people say Trump's just a puppet for Miller, and that's probably true because our wannabe Dictator-in-Chief has two feet in the grave already. But that shouldn't dismiss from the fact that Trump's an evil motherfucker as well, just that he lacks the intelligence to actually be anything more than a petulant child without Miller whispering in his ear like a devil on his shoulder.

I totally agree. Miller is the power behind the throne, but Trump is also fundamentally an awful human being who cares about nobody other than himself.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:18 pm

Adamede wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:Why are we expected to mourn rioters when you didn't respect a literal father getting assassinated in front of his family? It's a shame they died, sure, but let's not pretend they were saints.

Because he wasn’t a fucking rioter. You’re just straight up fucking lying to justify the murder of an innocent man by jackboot thugs in the streets. I know you just fucking live this because that’s all your ideology fucking is, masturbating over the thought of killing innocent people because fascists are hateful evil miserable people with holes in their hearts but you being a bunch of boot licking psychopaths doesn’t change reality, and people are waking up you your alls pathetic bullshit.

You all whined and cried and talked anti leftist violence but then the moment this shit happens you can barely contain yourselves and soul your pants in glee, at the idea that you can fucking kill without consequences. That’s what you’re so disturbed at people wanting to defend the doves, because you want unarmed and easy victims to militate and torture and slaughter.

Your ideology is scum. It is inhuman. Monstrous. Self destructive. Hollow.

You stand for nothing but spreading suffering and misery to you fellow man.

You don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, not even his wife does. You all used him as a prop, and she went on to hone JD Vance before Charlie’s body was even cold and buried. Because that’s what you all are, jackals with no morals or love in your hearts.

You hate humanity. You hate anything that you can’t control.

Alex Pretti at the very least died trying to help a woman who was being knocked to the ground by ICE agents. People who lick boots think that must mean she deserved it because for them authority is morality because they hate thinking for themselves. You want a strongman to tell what to do and what to think and what to feel because you fear the unknown, you hear freedom. Even if the system crashes and burns down the nation and kills you with it you’ll still support it with a smile because at least those different than you will suffer too.
Making is you’re all going to far for people to not notice anymore. That’s why you’re all so just wishing out and trying to create false narratives, thing is you’re all so stuck in your echo chambered you can’t realize you’re the only ones buying the shit your selling.


Oh damn, you're on fire. Well said.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:23 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Adamede wrote:Seeing all of the hateful rhetoric online form people celebrating Alex and Renee’s death I don’t want to ever hear anything about fucking Charlie Kirk ever again

Why are we expected to mourn rioters when you didn't respect a literal father getting assassinated in front of his family? It's a shame they died, sure, but let's not pretend they were saints.

He wasnt a rioter tho???

What the fuck is this logic

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:24 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Adamede wrote:Because he wasn’t a fucking rioter. You’re just straight up fucking lying to justify the murder of an innocent man by jackboot thugs in the streets. I know you just fucking live this because that’s all your ideology fucking is, masturbating over the thought of killing innocent people because fascists are hateful evil miserable people with holes in their hearts but you being a bunch of boot licking psychopaths doesn’t change reality, and people are waking up you your alls pathetic bullshit.

You all whined and cried and talked anti leftist violence but then the moment this shit happens you can barely contain yourselves and soul your pants in glee, at the idea that you can fucking kill without consequences. That’s what you’re so disturbed at people wanting to defend the doves, because you want unarmed and easy victims to militate and torture and slaughter.

Your ideology is scum. It is inhuman. Monstrous. Self destructive. Hollow.

You stand for nothing but spreading suffering and misery to you fellow man.

You don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, not even his wife does. You all used him as a prop, and she went on to hone JD Vance before Charlie’s body was even cold and buried. Because that’s what you all are, jackals with no morals or love in your hearts.

You hate humanity. You hate anything that you can’t control.

Alex Pretti at the very least died trying to help a woman who was being knocked to the ground by ICE agents. People who lick boots think that must mean she deserved it because for them authority is morality because they hate thinking for themselves. You want a strongman to tell what to do and what to think and what to feel because you fear the unknown, you hear freedom. Even if the system crashes and burns down the nation and kills you with it you’ll still support it with a smile because at least those different than you will suffer too.
Making is you’re all going to far for people to not notice anymore. That’s why you’re all so just wishing out and trying to create false narratives, thing is you’re all so stuck in your echo chambered you can’t realize you’re the only ones buying the shit your selling.


Oh damn, you're on fire. Well said.

It’s just becoming very prone that the only people defending this shit enjoy the idea of other suffering. This is just such a black and white case of murder there’s no way other way to justify it.

Want that’s entirely what these authoritarian ideologies like fascism are built on, is enjoying human suffering, usually because the adherents to these ideologies are miserable people who are in pain and hate themselves so they want to spread that pain and misery and hate to everyone else.

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:Why are we expected to mourn rioters when you didn't respect a literal father getting assassinated in front of his family? It's a shame they died, sure, but let's not pretend they were saints.

He wasnt a rioter tho???

What the fuck is this logic

The logic of fascists and authoritarians. Anyone who opposes their oppression and brutality is scum that deserves to die, thing is they can’t say that out loud so they need to dutifully it by saying the victims were violent criminals and the state thugs were merely acting in self defense.

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Postby The Republic of the United Marble Tribes » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:30 pm

Adamede wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:He wasnt a rioter tho???

What the fuck is this logic

The logic of fascists and authoritarians. Anyone who opposes their oppression and brutality is scum that deserves to die, thing is they can’t say that out loud so they need to dutifully it by saying the victims were violent criminals and the state thugs were merely acting in self defense.

They are too desperate that they need to flip and twist the whole drama. Wonder how are they gonna do that during judgement day while standing in front of God.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:31 pm

Adamede wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
Oh damn, you're on fire. Well said.

It’s just becoming very prone that the only people defending this shit enjoy the idea of other suffering. This is just such a black and white case of murder there’s no way other way to justify it.

Want that’s entirely what these authoritarian ideologies like fascism are built on, is enjoying human suffering, usually because the adherents to these ideologies are miserable people who are in pain and hate themselves so they want to spread that pain and misery and hate to everyone else.


I agree with you 100%, I have posted things just today saying things in the same ilk.

Truth will out as they say. And the Trump administration leaves it plain as day when they defend ICE gunning down people in the streets.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:31 pm

The Republic of the United Marble Tribes wrote:
Adamede wrote:The logic of fascists and authoritarians. Anyone who opposes their oppression and brutality is scum that deserves to die, thing is they can’t say that out loud so they need to dutifully it by saying the victims were violent criminals and the state thugs were merely acting in self defense.

They are too desperate that they need to flip and twist the whole drama. Wonder how are they gonna do that during judgement day while standing in front of God.

Despite rhetoric a lot of them don’t actually believe in god.

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Postby GMS » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:32 pm

Chan Island wrote:
GMS wrote:GMS, I have answered all the questions, my way and in my own words and style. I think like most Republicans and President Trump on all these issues. You guys think like most leftist democrats, real leftists and other anti Trumps on all these issues. We are even in reverse, I respect it and accept it while thinking different.

I have not lied on the Kurds and Greater Kurdistan. My statement is on this post and other posts. Ill send you a link of my nation of Greater Kurdistan. I dont care and we dont care if anyone calls me a Ronald Reagan Cultist and a Trump Cultist, I wear it with Pride and Honor, for the right reasons I post. It does not bother me.

I Ain't Never Lied about Politics, it is on my GMS Sigs.

I dont care if Adamede says I support ICE Agents murdering and executing American citizens, because I and us obviously dont support ICE Agents murdering and executing American Citizens and Illegal migrants. Adamede's Post viewtopic.php?p=43360811#p43360811. Adamede's nation https://www.nationstates.net/nation=adamede. It does not bother me.

I am not and we are not, Chat GPS, a Bot and a Fascist Nazi. I was once reported on NS to the Moderators of being a Bot, for my respectful Pro Trump Posts and views, like always. by leftist democrats, real leftists and other anti Trumps. This one is a Classic, this one is an NS First, lol :) :rofl:.

I was once reported by Bovad of admitting that I am a Fascist Nazi, lol :) :rofl:. I am on record on NS and discord as a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish People and Prime Minister of Israel Bibi Benjamin Netanyahu like President Trump is. Ill send you the link of my nation of NS Jerusalem Israel.



Well, I used to respect it too, but then I realised your side supports masked men brutalising people on the streets without rhyme or reason, and frankly have lost that respect. And you are not doing much to earn it back, sitting here typing in support of ICE gunning down innocent people.

Link the post where you criticise Trump for his stance on Kurdistan. If there is genuinely a post where you do so it would be trivial for you to prove you aren't lying. This bluster makes me think the opposite though.

Adamede speaks the truth. You support ICE agents carrying out summary executions of American citizens. If you didn't it would be obvious. Instead you call the people killed terrorists and insist they are armed when every video blatantly shows they were not while they are shot, and continue to do so even after those videos are posted on this thread.

GMS, there you go again. I have posted many times I strongly disagree with President Trump for betraying the Kurds. I think Kurdistan should be and can be a strong oil rich and natural gas rich, strong military power like Israel allied to the USA. These are the posts and links. I just sent you a TG with the links to my nations of NS Greater Kurdistan and NS Jerusalem Israel with Pics, Maps and real world statistics as much as possible.

Chan Island's nation. https://www.nationstates.net/nation=chan_island.

Adamede's Nation https://www.nationstates.net/nation=adamede.

GMS, I dont care and we dont care what Adamede and others say and think about me and us Proud, anti illegal migrants, Pro ICE and Pro American, Populist, Nationalist Patriot President Trump of the USA, with Pride and Honor. But I respect you, Chan Island, Adamede and all NSsers, discords and non NSsers and Non Discords, rights to think different on this guy, illegal migrants, President Trump, President Ronald Reagan, Republicans, Israel, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba and all issues, while thinking different. I Practice the Freedom of Speeh and Democracy with Personal Respect I Preach, with Pride and Honor. I Aint Never Lied about Politics, it is on My GMS Sigs. Peace over and out.
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GMS, I have gone back to my old policy I dont put anyone on ignore for any reasons.I dont report anyone for any reasons, even for non actionable and actionable reasons against me.I dont hurt anyone on NS we all love for our own reasons.I dont report any posts and threads for any reasons.I dont think this post or thread goes here or there, should be merged or closed.Is spam or not spam.Like Sergeant Schultz of Hogans Heroes, I think nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing, I hear nothing and I say nothing. I respect you and all posters rights to think different while thiking different.I dont call anyone stupid, an idiot and ignorant, because I know we think different.I dont decide I argue. I am not a Chivato, Females are Chivatas. Informers, in Cuba this is a very bad negative term and word.

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:34 pm

Adamede wrote:Because he wasn’t a fucking rioter. You’re just straight up fucking lying to justify the murder of an innocent man by jackboot thugs in the streets.

The ending of that man's life was not justified and was a severe mistake. But if you are in a protest and go confront law enforcement with a gun in your hand... Then yeah, it's a risk you put yourself in.

I know you just fucking live this because that’s all your ideology fucking is, masturbating over the thought of killing innocent people because fascists are hateful evil miserable people with holes in their hearts but you being a bunch of boot licking psychopaths doesn’t change reality, and people are waking up you your alls pathetic bullshit.

If I wanted people to die, I'd be telling you to go armed to protests, I'd be telling you to harass ICE, I'd be telling you to disobey the law. Because then that's when you stop being in a protest and start being in a rebellion, and that's when you get lawfully shot by law enforcement.

You all whined and cried and talked anti leftist violence but then the moment this shit happens you can barely contain yourselves and soul your pants in glee, at the idea that you can fucking kill without consequences. That’s what you’re so disturbed at people wanting to defend the doves, because you want unarmed and easy victims to militate and torture and slaughter.

If ICE was half of what you think it is, that'd would have already happened. Blues ain't the most armed population.

Your ideology is scum. It is inhuman. Monstrous. Self destructive. Hollow. You stand for nothing but spreading suffering and misery to you fellow man.

You can add all the subjective and poetic adjectives you want. That won't make it not work. We can tell you why leftism won't work, why can't you tell us why fascism wouldn't?

You don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, not even his wife does. You all used him as a prop, and she went on to hone JD Vance before Charlie’s body was even cold and buried. Because that’s what you all are, jackals with no morals or love in your hearts.

I am not specially a fan of him, hell, I disliked him strongly for his support towards Israel and his overtly lefty positioning. He was the definition of controlled opposition. But I didn't want him to get fucking assassinated in front of his entire family. The fact you cheered at it is simply abhorrent and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Regarding Erika, one has to understand everyone processes grief differently, maybe she didn't want to make her grief a public matter and she just wanted to honour her husband. Not everything is a political grand scheme of things.

You hate humanity. You hate anything that you can’t control.

I love my people and I like the others as long as they let us have our place.

Alex Pretti at the very least died trying to help a woman who was being knocked to the ground by ICE agents. People who lick boots think that must mean she deserved it because for them authority is morality because they hate thinking for themselves.

She died trying to interrupt an arrest. She died committing a crime.

You want a strongman to tell what to do and what to think and what to feel because you fear the unknown, you hear freedom. Even if the system crashes and burns down the nation and kills you with it you’ll still support it with a smile because at least those different than you will suffer too.

I want a man who knows what has to be done and won't back away from it. I won't get anything done to me because I don't get into the shady shit the left does. I do not interrupt cops trying to do their job, I do not call for armed insurrection, I do not try to harm my own nation by importing cheap foreign labour just because daddy capital told you to believe they are equally American as you because your great great grandparents hurted theirs or whatever. We are tired of this globalist bullshit that only benefits the extremely poor and the extremely rich.

Making is you’re all going to far for people to not notice anymore. That’s why you’re all so just wishing out and trying to create false narratives, thing is you’re all so stuck in your echo chambered you can’t realize you’re the only ones buying the shit your selling.

Look at Europe, look at Japan, look at Latin America. We are tired of your bullshit. We deserve our home. We deserve to walk safe in the streets from criminals. We deserve the state to serve US and not anyone else. There is a massive fear campaign on part of American socialists and liberals to turn this around, but it's too late. You will win again. But you will screw it over again, and then we will finally get to fix this nation.

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:34 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Adamede wrote:It’s just becoming very prone that the only people defending this shit enjoy the idea of other suffering. This is just such a black and white case of murder there’s no way other way to justify it.

Want that’s entirely what these authoritarian ideologies like fascism are built on, is enjoying human suffering, usually because the adherents to these ideologies are miserable people who are in pain and hate themselves so they want to spread that pain and misery and hate to everyone else.


I agree with you 100%, I have posted things just today saying things in the same ilk.

Truth will out as they say. And the Trump administration leaves it plain as day when they defend ICE gunning down people in the streets.

Will say it’s fucking crazy that I know have to defend the 2nd amendment from the right now. Of course many of them never actually believed it, they just thought only they should have guns.

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Postby Estangzelia and Latang » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:36 pm

Holy Federation of Stars wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
it's fascinating how whiny the right is these days

like, come on now. ballot access issues make New York elections 'as “free and fair” ' as Russian ones? the ones where political opponents are routinely jailed or murdered and where street violence and intimidation is par for the course? seriously?

this is the tack you want to take rather than come to terms with the fact that your politics are just unpopular? nail yourself to a cross and pretend as though you're living under the Hochul junta? it's just sad.

It's almost hilarious how sheltered Yanks (and by extension a lot of Westerners) are that they're genuinely willing to point to bureaucratic slop or shady practices as equivalent to authoritarian regimes like China or Russia.

That's not to imply "Westerners don't know how GOOD they have it, they could be living in North Korea!" Yet at the same time, if you're going to draw literal comparisons, bad voter thresholds wouldn't even make NY a statistical hybrid regime, let alone an authoritarian regime.


I live in upstate NY and I get frustrated with Hochul sometimes, but yeah, NY has real elections and it's ridiculous to compare it to Russia.

Honestly, I think upstate New Yorkers undermine our own ability to get our issues taken seriously because of how many people go straight to, "Ahhh! We're being oppressed! The city people are on a sadistic power trip trying to ruin our lives!" Of course, the city people hear that, and they just go, "WTF man? You sound unhinged!" instead of actually hearing what the problem is. Like if you look at Hochul pushing to switch to electric cars, there are legitimate reasons why that's a problem upstate. We have a lot of rural areas where people are driving long distances. We have a lot of snowy road conditions where you get worse gas mileage, or go through more electric charge. We have extreme cold where batteries won't hold their charge as long. We have not only a lack of charging stations, but a lack of infrastructure in general. There's little to no public transportation that people can use to get around if driving is not going to work. People are parking in outdoor lots, not underground parking garages. Some roads are not even paved. And people may be dealing with all of this simultaneously, not just one thing at a time.

But instead of explaining very practical problems like it gets down to -30F or people have to drive 4 hours to go to the hospital in Syracuse, some people will just bug out saying, "It's about control! The city people want to control us!"

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Postby Port Carverton » Sun Jan 25, 2026 5:39 pm

Adamede wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:Why are we expected to mourn rioters when you didn't respect a literal father getting assassinated in front of his family? It's a shame they died, sure, but let's not pretend they were saints.

Because he wasn’t a fucking rioter. You’re just straight up fucking lying to justify the murder of an innocent man by jackboot thugs in the streets. I know you just fucking live this because that’s all your ideology fucking is, masturbating over the thought of killing innocent people because fascists are hateful evil miserable people with holes in their hearts but you being a bunch of boot licking psychopaths doesn’t change reality, and people are waking up you your alls pathetic bullshit.

You all whined and cried and talked anti leftist violence but then the moment this shit happens you can barely contain yourselves and soul your pants in glee, at the idea that you can fucking kill without consequences. That’s what you’re so disturbed at people wanting to defend the doves, because you want unarmed and easy victims to militate and torture and slaughter.

Your ideology is scum. It is inhuman. Monstrous. Self destructive. Hollow.

You stand for nothing but spreading suffering and misery to you fellow man.

You don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, not even his wife does. You all used him as a prop, and she went on to hone JD Vance before Charlie’s body was even cold and buried. Because that’s what you all are, jackals with no morals or love in your hearts.

You hate humanity. You hate anything that you can’t control.

Alex Pretti at the very least died trying to help a woman who was being knocked to the ground by ICE agents. People who lick boots think that must mean she deserved it because for them authority is morality because they hate thinking for themselves. You want a strongman to tell what to do and what to think and what to feel because you fear the unknown, you hear freedom. Even if the system crashes and burns down the nation and kills you with it you’ll still support it with a smile because at least those different than you will suffer too.
Making is you’re all going to far for people to not notice anymore. That’s why you’re all so just wishing out and trying to create false narratives, thing is you’re all so stuck in your echo chambered you can’t realize you’re the only ones buying the shit your selling.

Mf he died for BlueSky views – the video where the pink haired woman asks others to call 911 instead of stopping her recording says as much. It happened during the Renee good too. Yeah you can make up your weird fantics about Charlie Kirk and stuff to project, but the fact of the matter is some people learned unlike Katniss from the Hunger Games, their spinal cords don't have plot armor. Doesn't help the only thing he really did (because he ends up grabbing said woman, presumably thinking it was an ICE agent as he got maced) was die for views on a Twitter clone. Your comment about echo chambers is one of the worst projections I've seen on this website, seeing yesterday people were calling for a coup/civil war/revolution. Yet are they gonna do anything? No of course not, don't be surprised if some accounts here go silent, then the users come back on new nations claiming "They saw the light" and "Trump is too moderate". I don't even know where this idea of Trumpfall still comes from, seeing people here threatened suicide over the shutdown ending in the GOP's favor. If one side is threatening suicide over the legislature not doing what they want, that's much more closer to the inhuman, monstrous, self-destructive and hollow ideology you describe. Coming back to Charlie Kirk, a lot of people didn't really care about him yet people acted like he had personally murdered their whole family, so yeah people are not gonna care about faux moralism on political violence.

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