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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:11 pm

GMS wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So you have no answer except copy and pastes. You are incapable of criticizing Trump, ICE or any Republican.

GMS, there you go again, I answered your questions in details, read my previous post to you, viewtopic.php?p=43360563#p43360563.

This post is not copypasted it, I typed it all, I know it by heart and if I did copypaste it, it is not a big deal, it is not a crime.

Are you capable of praising President Trump, ICE or any Pro Trump Republicans? How many Pro ICE Posts have you posted? How many Pro Trump Posts have you posted? How many Pro Republican Posts have you posted? If the answer is No, are we even in reverse? The logical answer is, Yes we are even in reverse. These questions are for all NSsers it fits?

But I strongly criticized President Trump for his betrayal of the Kurds. I say Kurdistan can be and should be an oil rich, natural gas rich, strong military power like Israel allied to the USA. I RP the NS nation of NS Greater Kurdistan, with Pics of their real world leaders and a map of Greater Kurdistan.

I dont like President Trump's nice comments of North Korea's Dear Leader Kim Jong-Un. I have 2 North Korean American Friends from North Korea, and they are Proud Pro Trump Republicans MAGAs. I have a Vietnamese American friend on NS and discord and he is a Proud Pro Trump Republican MAGA like I am and all of us are.

There are millions of us.

I agreed with Biden and the leftist democrats during the virus crisis, wearing masks should be mandatory. I hate to use the C word because it sounds ugly to me.

I agree with Democrats Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Republicans Josh Hawley and President Trump on lower interest rates %, they should not be any higher than 10 %, it is law on my real world based nation of GMS Greater Miami Shores, which reflects my real world views on the issues.

Most Republicans are against Euthania, I strongly support Euthanasia, the right to die with dignity law, with few restrictions if any. If I am dying in pain of a present day incurable disease, put me to sleep in the painless way possible, by a licensed doctor, as determined by doctors, health care professionals and scientists. Like we do with Dogs, Cats and Pets, Dogs, Cats and Pets are Family too. This is law on my real world based nation of GMS Greater Miami Shores, which reflects my real world views on the issues.

Most Republicans are against obortion. I support abortion if it endangers the life of the mother and in cases of rape and incest. But I define abortion as preventing the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and an adult person to be.

I am not and we are not Chat GPS and Bots. I am a Proud Republican and we are Proud Republicans, Make America Great Again and Greater Again MAGAs, President Ronald Reagan and President Trump of the USA, Populist, Nationalist Patriots, Supporters, with Pride and Honor.

I did not copy paste this post, I typed it all. I know it by heart and if I did copypaste it, it is not a big deal, it is not a crime.

I kept this Post short than its original planned version, lol :) :rofl:.

Aka again your pro-murder of Americans.

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Postby Holy Federation of Stars » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:12 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
Aurevbush wrote:New York’s elections are as “free and fair” as Russia’s elections.


it's fascinating how whiny the right is these days

like, come on now. ballot access issues make New York elections 'as “free and fair” ' as Russian ones? the ones where political opponents are routinely jailed or murdered and where street violence and intimidation is par for the course? seriously?

this is the tack you want to take rather than come to terms with the fact that your politics are just unpopular? nail yourself to a cross and pretend as though you're living under the Hochul junta? it's just sad.

It's almost hilarious how sheltered Yanks (and by extension a lot of Westerners) are that they're genuinely willing to point to bureaucratic slop or shady practices as equivalent to authoritarian regimes like China or Russia.

That's not to imply "Westerners don't know how GOOD they have it, they could be living in North Korea!" Yet at the same time, if you're going to draw literal comparisons, bad voter thresholds wouldn't even make NY a statistical hybrid regime, let alone an authoritarian regime.
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Postby GMS » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:15 pm

Corrian wrote:
GMS wrote:GMS, I have been saying this on my posts and I am not the only one on NS and off NS. I said, You dont spit on, you dont kick and you dont touch an ICE Agent and a Cop, like my good cousin Primo Cop.

viewtopic.php?p=43358807#p43358807.

How to avoid ICE.
1 - Don't be here illegally.
2 - Don't attack ICE officers.
3 - Obey federal and state laws.

3 - This anti ICE Protestor did not obey federal and state laws. He thretened the lifes of ICE Agents doing their jobs with a gun. The ICE agents are heard saying he has a gun, he has a gun, he has a gun.

Pete Hegseth is obviously not saying what are you asking him, implying and misinterpreting, to fit your anti ICE, anti Republicans, anti Trump views.

https://x.com/PeteHegseth/status/2015244661653135618.

I know trying to get through you is hopeless and pointless, but he did not brandish said freaking gun. He was legally carrying it, as his 2nd amendment rights allowed. And got executed for it. The only thing he was "brandishing" was his phone to record them, and then he went in to rescue someone brutally shoved over by ICE and got executed for it. Supporting this makes you a monster of a human being. Get back into reality before its too late for you.

GMS, trying to get through to you on this guy, illegal migrants, President Trump and other issues is hopeless and pointless, because nothing I say, post and link too and nothing we say, post and link too, will change your Pro Illegal Migrants, anti ICE, anti Trump views on the issues, but you are not the only one on NS and off NS it fits. I accept it and respect it, while thinking different.

Are we even in reverse? the logical answer is, Yes we are even in Reverse.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:22 pm

GMS wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So you have no answer except copy and pastes. You are incapable of criticizing Trump, ICE or any Republican.

GMS, there you go again, I answered your questions in details, read my previous post to you, viewtopic.php?p=43360563#p43360563.

This post is not copypasted it, I typed it all, I know it by heart and if I did copypaste it, it is not a big deal, it is not a crime.



So you are just in favour of masked man carrying out summary executions on the streets. Multiple videos have been posted in this very thread unambiguously showing he didn't brandish the gun, but you choose to keep repeating the mantras anyway. To the surprise of absolutely nobody.

GMS wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So you have no answer except copy and pastes. You are incapable of criticizing Trump, ICE or any Republican.

Are you capable of praising President Trump, ICE or any Pro Trump Republicans? How many Pro ICE Posts have you posted? How many Pro Trump Posts have you posted? How many Pro Republican Posts have you posted? If the answer is No, are we even in reverse? The logical answer is, Yes we are even in reverse. These questions are for all NSsers it fits?


The day ICE, Trump or the Republicans do something worth praising, they will receive praise. I actually do have a handful of posts in my long post history praising Trump and the Republicans for very occasional good things. Do you have the same?

But today, ICE is carrying out summary executions of American citizens in the streets and you support them doing so. It is clear we are indeed reversed- I am a friend of freedom and you are an enemy of freedom.


GMS wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So you have no answer except copy and pastes. You are incapable of criticizing Trump, ICE or any Republican.



But I strongly criticized President Trump for his betrayal of the Kurds. I say Kurdistan can be and should be an oil rich, natural gas rich, strong military power like Israel allied to the USA. I RP the NS nation of NS Greater Kurdistan, with Pics of their real world leaders and a map of Greater Kurdistan.


Links or it didn't happen. I pointblank think you are lying here.

GMS wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
There are millions of us.


And that is the fucking problem. Millions of you support masked man carrying out summary executions of Americans on the streets.
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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:27 pm

The only way that these murders will end if the people use their Second Amendment rigght to defend themselves against these government sponsored thugs. I know that the main argument against that is "it's what Trump wants, he'll send in the army and declare martial law," but if the people resist with force, it will be a war of attrition that Trump cannot win. ICE is overconfident in that they haven't been seriously threatened yet, and the army would not exactly be enthusiastic with fighting the American people, nor would martial law be liked by the corprocrats and financiers propping the bloated carcass that is Trump up on his throne.
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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:34 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:The only way that these murders will end if the people use their Second Amendment rigght to defend themselves against these government sponsored thugs. I know that the main argument against that is "it's what Trump wants, he'll send in the army and declare martial law," but if the people resist with force, it will be a war of attrition that Trump cannot win. ICE is overconfident in that they haven't been seriously threatened yet, and the army would not exactly be enthusiastic with fighting the American people, nor would martial law be liked by the corprocrats and financiers propping the bloated carcass that is Trump up on his throne.

What do you exactly mean by second amendment rights? Protesters have carried weapons before against ICE.

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Postby Estangzelia and Latang » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:35 pm

ICE needs to knock it off with the "shoot first, don't ask questions" shit.

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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:36 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:The only way that these murders will end if the people use their Second Amendment rigght to defend themselves against these government sponsored thugs. I know that the main argument against that is "it's what Trump wants, he'll send in the army and declare martial law," but if the people resist with force, it will be a war of attrition that Trump cannot win. ICE is overconfident in that they haven't been seriously threatened yet, and the army would not exactly be enthusiastic with fighting the American people, nor would martial law be liked by the corprocrats and financiers propping the bloated carcass that is Trump up on his throne.

What do you exactly mean by second amendment rights? Protesters have carried weapons before against ICE.

Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.
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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:37 pm

Estangzelia and Latang wrote:ICE needs to knock it off with the "shoot first, don't ask questions" shit.

A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:38 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.

If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:38 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Estangzelia and Latang wrote:ICE needs to knock it off with the "shoot first, don't ask questions" shit.

A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??

So the people should just accept brutality because the aggressors are federal agents? Furthermore, ICE is far exceeding its remit of "immigration enforcement" with its mass deployments to predominantly blue cities and a tendency to refuse cooperation with state and local authorities and laws.
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Postby Holy Federation of Stars » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:39 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.

If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Neither does executing people in the street :shrug:

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:40 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:So the people should just accept brutality because the aggressors are federal agents?

There are far better means than sending an armed paramilitary to "protests" (aka basically starting an armed conflict)

Furthermore, ICE is far exceeding its remit of "immigration enforcement" with its mass deployments to predominantly blue cities and a tendency to refuse cooperation with state and local authorities and laws.

Illegal immigrants are in predominantly blue cities. Blue states tend to shelter illegal immigrants since the illegal immigrants vote blue.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:40 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.

If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.


Maybe they should stop acting like racist masked thugs and stop abducting people based on skin color.

Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Stop with this nonsense.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:41 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Estangzelia and Latang wrote:ICE needs to knock it off with the "shoot first, don't ask questions" shit.

A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??


Is boot leather really so sweet? Do the treads really make cool enough patterns on your face?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Valreisches Kaiserreich » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:41 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.

If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Again, why is it on the people to be perfectly disciplined and to preserve the lives of federal agents who clearly have no compunction with jumping to lethal force at the slightest opportunity? Who appear to have nothing but contempt for the Constitution and the people they are supposed to serve?
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Postby Asukalia » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.


Maybe they should stop acting like racist masked thugs and stop abducting people based on skin color.

Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Stop with this nonsense.

I mean, if you don't have proof of citizenship to vote, how do you know?
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:42 pm

Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Again, why is it on the people to be perfectly disciplined and to preserve the lives of federal agents who clearly have no compunction with jumping to lethal force at the slightest opportunity? Who appear to have nothing but contempt for the Constitution and the people they are supposed to serve?


A great point. Every single time it's been the ICE agents who start the shit yet all this talk is always putting the onus on the civilians protecting their neighbours from kidnapping.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:42 pm

Holy Federation of Stars wrote:Neither does executing people in the street :shrug:

If ICE is so dangerous, why even go to protests? They should be shooting everyone left and right, no?

Start shit, get bit

I mean, the riots were not started by ICE, they were mishandled maybe but certainly not started by them.

Chan Island wrote:A great point. Every single time it's been the ICE agents who start the shit yet all this talk is always putting the onus on the civilians protecting their neighbours from kidnapping.

It's not kidnapping, it's arresting. Getting in the way of an arrest is illegal.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:42 pm

Asukalia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Maybe they should stop acting like racist masked thugs and stop abducting people based on skin color.

Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Stop with this nonsense.

I mean, if you don't have proof of citizenship to vote, how do you know?


Because documents are checked. If you are not citizen you cannot register. The BOE checks things.

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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:43 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Estangzelia and Latang wrote:ICE needs to knock it off with the "shoot first, don't ask questions" shit.

A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??

Of course the fascists defend the murder of innocents.

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Human Overlordship wrote:A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??


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It depends on the polish. Some is sweet, some savory.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:45 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Valreisches Kaiserreich wrote:Yes, but do you think ICE would be so eager to brutalize protestors if a majority were visibly armed? Hell, the consistent presence of a well-armed "self-defense force" would likely deter ICE or force an armed confrontation which would certainly not favor the gravy seals.

If a majority of protesters are armed, one is gonna shot and start shit. And that doesn't benefit anyone.

Shits already started.

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Postby Human Overlordship » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:46 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Human Overlordship wrote:A good way for them to do that might just be for the far left not to constantly try to harm the officers? Maybe??


Is boot leather really so sweet? Do the treads really make cool enough patterns on your face?

Please keep your fetishes away from me.

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Postby Chan Island » Sun Jan 25, 2026 4:46 pm

Human Overlordship wrote:
Holy Federation of Stars wrote:Neither does executing people in the street :shrug:

If ICE is so dangerous, why even go to protests? They should be shooting everyone left and right, no?

Start shit, get bit

I mean, the riots were not started by ICE, they were mishandled maybe but certainly not started by them.

Chan Island wrote:A great point. Every single time it's been the ICE agents who start the shit yet all this talk is always putting the onus on the civilians protecting their neighbours from kidnapping.

It's not kidnapping, it's arresting. Getting in the way of an arrest is illegal.


Ah, then I assume they would have zero problems producing warrants if asked, reading Miranda rights, identifying themselves, and with allowing bystanders to watch the hand of justice in action- right? Right? RIGHT?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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