American Politics Thread: Mamdani's Big Fat Win

[New haven america]

Again, only in America could wanting UHC and holding public servants accountable be seen as evil.

1. What do you mean by "holding public servants accountable"? 2. And why do you think I am opposed to UHC? Is it because I don't support taking away the people's private health insurance when they would rather keep it?

1. Well I just think that having the country be ran by a cabal of geriatrics owned by corporate interests that allows for the rape and murder of America's impoverished groups by the systems that are supposedly supposed to protect them is a bit shit. I'd rather they be in jail instead of Congress.

2. Ok then, list the evil actions that the Progressive movement in America wants to undertake?

Come on, explain please.

[New haven america]

No, you're a lib. This is known.

I will never emotionally recover from this...

Probably read Bloomberg, dontcha?

[Adamede]

Bruh we already have the extreme right wing party in power.

The Democratic Party is incompetent. The country is rotting and people are suffering. It’s either do or die.

So your solution is for the Democrats to become unhinged extremists like the people they are supposed to be fighting against? That is making America worse, not better.

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

[San Lumen]

Can we stop with nonsense talk like controlled opposition?

If establishment Dems stop voting for Trump's agenda we can talk.

They haven been. What do you and others want them to? they don;t have the votes in Congress.

[New haven america]

So your solution is for the Democrats to become unhinged extremists like the people they are supposed to be fighting against? That is making America worse, not better.

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

Sorry, Bien considers that as extremist evil.

[San Lumen]

So your solution is for the Democrats to become unhinged extremists like the people they are supposed to be fighting against? That is making America worse, not better.

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

Corporate stooge and establishment are just buzzwords for anyone people don't like. It's just like almost any foreign policy is labeled a war crime.

[Adamede]

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

Corporate stooge and establishment are just buzzwords for anyone people don't like. It's just like almost any foreign policy is labeled a war crime.

Buddy I’ve seen what you get upset over. People like you are a major issue with the democrats.

[San Lumen]

Corporate stooge and establishment are just buzzwords for anyone people don't like. It's just like almost any foreign policy is labeled a war crime.

Buddy I’ve seen what you get upset over. People like you are a major issue with the democrats.

and what is this issue you speak of?

[The Lazarene Republic]

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

Corporate stooge and establishment are just buzzwords for anyone people don't like. It's just like almost any foreign policy is labeled a war crime.

You literally think that it's a war crime for a country to strike an aggressing military in self-defense

[San Lumen]

Corporate stooge and establishment are just buzzwords for anyone people don't like. It's just like almost any foreign policy is labeled a war crime.

You literally think that it's a war crime for a country to retaliate against an aggressing military in self-defense

I never said this.

Israel was attacked. They had a right to defend themselves. Did they go to far? Yes but some here act like any foreign policy is a war crime.

[Bienenhalde]

So your solution is for the Democrats to become unhinged extremists like the people they are supposed to be fighting against? That is making America worse, not better.

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

I don't particularly care for unchecked capitalism and big corporations, but given how depraved the American people are, do they really deserve to just be given what they want. I think their basic needs should be provided for, but they shouldn't necessarily escape the consequences of their own actions.

[Ifreann]

You literally think that it's a war crime for a country to retaliate against an aggressing military in self-defense

I never said this.

Israel was attacked. They had a right to defend themselves. Did they go to far? Yes but some here act like any foreign policy is a war crime.

Iran was attacked. They also have a right to defend themselves, yes?

[New haven america]

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

I don't particularly care for unchecked capitalism and big corporations, but given how depraved the American people are, do they really deserve to just be given what they want. I think their basic needs should be provided for, but they shouldn't necessarily escape the consequences of their own actions.

Oh hey, are you ready to share what evils the American Progressives will inflict on the nation if allowed power?

Also, do I need to remind you about the time that you denied the US government led a genocide against Native Americans?

[San Lumen]

I never said this.

Israel was attacked. They had a right to defend themselves. Did they go to far? Yes but some here act like any foreign policy is a war crime.

Iran was attacked. They also have a right to defend themselves, yes?

There wasn't any reason for Israel to attack. There is no evidence to suggest Iran was anywhere close to a nuclear weapon.

[Ifreann]

Iran was attacked. They also have a right to defend themselves, yes?

There wasn't any reason for Israel to attack. There is no evidence to suggest Iran was anywhere close to a nuclear weapon.

So that's a yes. Excellent.

[Shrillland]

1. What do you mean by "holding public servants accountable"? 2. And why do you think I am opposed to UHC? Is it because I don't support taking away the people's private health insurance when they would rather keep it?

1. Well I just think that having the country be ran by a cabal of geriatrics owned by corporate interests that allows the for the rape and murder of Americans impoverished groups by the systems that are supposedly supposed to protect them is a bit shit. I'd rather they be in jail instead of Congress.

2. Ok then, list the evil actions that the Progressive movement in America wants to undertake?

Come on, explain please.

It ultimately boils down to social issues like gender identity and the masculinity question.

[Adamede]

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

I don't particularly care for unchecked capitalism and big corporations, but given how depraved the American people are, do they really deserve to just be given what they want. I think their basic needs should be provided for, but they shouldn't necessarily escape the consequences of their own actions.

Rub my entire life o have been watching people fucking struggling to make ends meet. I mean shit in my own childhood it got to the point where my family couldn’t afford toys for Christmas.

The “welfare makes people debauched/lazy/degenerate” bullshit needs to stop. Power needs to be returned to the people. We are being made into slaves.

I mean shit I’m not even a socialist I’m fucking socdem which to many leftists is the equivalent of being a fascist, I’m hardly some far left wing radical that wants to start hanging CEOs from light poles.

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

I never said this.

Israel was attacked. They had a right to defend themselves. Did they go to far? Yes but some here act like any foreign policy is a war crime.

Iran was attacked. They also have a right to defend themselves, yes?

But the Eternall Revolutionary Islamic Muslim Republic government of Iran hates Israel and the Jewish People, supports Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. Hamas will do it again to Israel and the Jewish People when they can anyway they can. I have posted the links and video links on NS to prove my point and post and our point. I can assure all of you most of mine think like me on it.

[The Black Forrest]

No. My solution is for the democrats to stop being corporate stooges and actually work for the common people.

I don't particularly care for unchecked capitalism and big corporations, but given how depraved the American people are, do they really deserve to just be given what they want. I think their basic needs should be provided for, but they shouldn't necessarily escape the consequences of their own actions.

One of the magical things about the word “but” ? Everything before it is horseshit. Embrace what you wrote after “but”. It’s what you truly believe.

We don’t need to suffer so the wealthy can have more. My grandparents had a farm which they purchased. My mom was able to buy a house with my granddads signature. A man has to do such things back then. I needed help from the parents to buy my house. My kid just finished school and has said she don’t think she can get a house on her own.

So a question. What actions did I commit for the consequence of trying to find a job after I was laid off due to age? What about my kid? She is trying for internships. No luck.

My niece is leaving the US. She has a science degree and will be taking of environmental law at Oxford. They also found her a couple internships in the mean time. What actions did she commit for having a couple internships canceled? To leave the US…..

[Krangkor]

Iran was attacked. They also have a right to defend themselves, yes?

There wasn't any reason for Israel to attack. There is no evidence to suggest Iran was anywhere close to a nuclear weapon.

You think they need to be close to getting nuclear weapons before being attacked? Heck no! If they take one baby step in that direction it is way too far.

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

San Lumen Said, Ice is the Gestapo and should be totally impeded from doing their job.[/box]

Ifreann Said, Deportation proceedings began under Obama and he lost his legal case in 2015.

Thank you for saying, Deportation proceedings began under President Obama.

[HISPIDA]

There wasn't any reason for Israel to attack. There is no evidence to suggest Iran was anywhere close to a nuclear weapon.

So that's a yes. Excellent.

SAN LUMEN CONFIRMED TO BE AN IRANBRO???

NOW THAT'S A TURNABOUT WORTHY OF THE AYATOLLAH! ALHAMDULILLAH!

[New haven america]

I don't particularly care for unchecked capitalism and big corporations, but given how depraved the American people are, do they really deserve to just be given what they want. I think their basic needs should be provided for, but they shouldn't necessarily escape the consequences of their own actions.

Rub my entire life o have been watching people fucking struggling to make ends meet. I mean shit in my own childhood it got to the point where my family couldn’t afford toys for Christmas.

The “welfare makes people debauched/lazy/degenerate” bullshit needs to stop. Power needs to be returned to the people. We are being made into slaves.

I mean shit I’m not even a socialist I’m fucking socdem which to many leftists is the equivalent of being a fascist, I’m hardly some far left wing radical that wants to start hanging CEOs from light poles.

I didn't get Christmas or birthday presents.

Granted, most of that was caused by my parent's idiotic financial decisions throughout their entire lives, but living in a country where I don't have to be punished for their idiocy would be nice.

[Bombadil]

Thank you for saying, Deportation proceedings began under President Obama.

Actually..

After independence, the first federal law authorizing the expulsion of non-citizens was the Alien Friends Act of 1798. The law gave the president discretionary power to deport any non-citizen he deemed "dangerous to the peace and safety of the United States".

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

Thank you for saying, Deportation proceedings began under President Obama.

Actually..

After independence, the first federal law authorizing the expulsion of non-citizens was the Alien Friends Act of 1798. The law gave the president discretionary power to deport any non-citizen he deemed "dangerous to the peace and safety of the United States".

Thank you for the information I did not know. I know you did not think this of me. But I did not believe deportation proceedings began under just President Obama. I figured he meant in terms of President Obama and President Trump. Actually now that I think about it, I forgot, this is the law President Trump is trying to use to deport illegal migrants and the leftist democrats are blocking wiht their legal challenges to the US Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court on Friday blocked the Trump Administration from using a wartime law to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members to a notorious prison in El Salvador, delivering yet another legal setback to President Donald Trump’s controversial deportation plans.

The ruling extends the court’s April emergency order barring Trump from using the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to deport migrants held in a Texas detention facility, after lawyers said the detainees were being put on buses towards an airport without a chance to challenge the decision via habeas corpus petitions.

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Only two of the court’s Justices—Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas—publicly noted their dissent. Alito wrote that the Supreme Court had “no authority to issue any relief."

In its unsigned order on Friday, the Justices faulted the Trump Administration for only giving detained migrants 24 hours to raise legal objections: "Under these circumstances, notice roughly 24 hours before removal, devoid of information about how to exercise due process rights to contest that removal, surely does not pass muster," the ruling said.

The Justices sent the case back to an appeals court to determine what due process the detainees should receive, as well as whether Trump’s deportation plan is legal, and how much notice the migrants are required to get.

Soon after the Court issued its ruling, Trump expressed his disagreement on social media. "THE SUPREME COURT WON’T ALLOW US TO GET CRIMINALS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!" he wrote. https://time.com/7286140/supreme-court- ... liens-act/