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by American Legionaries » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:38 am

by Celritannia » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:38 am

by Southglory » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:39 am
Krangkor wrote:Maybe people should not have zoom meetings to discuss national security matters. Maybe such discussions should held in secure rooms in face to face meetings. What is up with all this zoomery? It needs to be reigned back a bit.
by American Legionaries » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:41 am

by Celritannia » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:43 am
American Legionaries wrote:Celritannia wrote:
And therein lies the problem. You just don't believe in the good of anything.
Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.
by American Legionaries » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:45 am
Celritannia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.
The fact you don't think everyone should eat, one of the most basic needs of any human, is the most basic forms of common good.
Ensuring prices are affordable for people to purchase said food is a common good.
Ensuring the food has been tested and is safe to consume is a common good.
Ensuring the supply and demand reaches all people in various communities is a common good.

by Shrillland » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:46 am
Celritannia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.
The fact you don't think everyone should eat, one of the most basic needs of any human, is the most basic forms of common good.
Ensuring prices are affordable for people to purchase said food is a common good.
Ensuring the food has been tested and is safe to consume is a common good.
Ensuring the supply and demand reaches all people in various communities is a common good.

by Crysuko » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:47 am
Celritannia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.
The fact you don't think everyone should eat, one of the most basic needs of any human, is the most basic forms of common good.
Ensuring prices are affordable for people to purchase said food is a common good.
Ensuring the food has been tested and is safe to consume is a common good.
Ensuring the supply and demand reaches all people in various communities is a common good.

by Southglory » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:48 am
Shrillland wrote:Celritannia wrote:
The fact you don't think everyone should eat, one of the most basic needs of any human, is the most basic forms of common good.
Ensuring prices are affordable for people to purchase said food is a common good.
Ensuring the food has been tested and is safe to consume is a common good.
Ensuring the supply and demand reaches all people in various communities is a common good.
Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatel.

by Qaumodeen » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:48 am
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I don't know, we bail out the Americans, by letting them use UK aerial refuelling planes, to keep their jets in the air over Yemen, and do we get a thank you? No we get Pisshead Pete and the Hillbilly Himmler denigrating Europe on Signal.
by Valrifall » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:49 am

by Deblar » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:50 am
Feidjeg wrote:to-do list:
put all my eggs in one basket
bite off more than i can chew
get too big for my britches

by Crysuko » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:50 am
Qaumodeen wrote:Welskerland wrote:
I think Fetterman would be a good choice, but he's probably gonna get same treatment as Bernie, Manchen and Gabbard
Fetterman can't function properly anymore because of his stroke, you only have to look at his statements.Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I don't know, we bail out the Americans, by letting them use UK aerial refuelling planes, to keep their jets in the air over Yemen, and do we get a thank you? No we get Pisshead Pete and the Hillbilly Himmler denigrating Europe on Signal.
Britain should stop helping them then. Britain's national security would improve overnight.

by Celritannia » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:51 am
Crysuko wrote:Celritannia wrote:
The fact you don't think everyone should eat, one of the most basic needs of any human, is the most basic forms of common good.
Ensuring prices are affordable for people to purchase said food is a common good.
Ensuring the food has been tested and is safe to consume is a common good.
Ensuring the supply and demand reaches all people in various communities is a common good.
My conception of common good is social ownership of the means of production, the abolition of private property and decentralised planning. I bet it isn't yours. Because it means whatever the user wants it to mean.
by American Legionaries » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 am

by Crysuko » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:52 am
Celritannia wrote:Crysuko wrote:My conception of common good is social ownership of the means of production, the abolition of private property and decentralised planning. I bet it isn't yours. Because it means whatever the user wants it to mean.
Ensuring people have food, shelter, energy, protection, energy, transportation is indeed supporting the common good, and certainly exists in this political system, and that is what is important.
I don't agree with the political system you support, but do want to ensuring the common good is there.

by Celritannia » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:54 am
Crysuko wrote:Celritannia wrote:
Ensuring people have food, shelter, energy, protection, energy, transportation is indeed supporting the common good, and certainly exists in this political system, and that is what is important.
I don't agree with the political system you support, but do want to ensuring the common good is there.
You're just repeating yourself. When Both Smith, Keynes and Marx use the same terminology you have a term that is so thin and nebulous you can interpret it however you want.

by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:54 am
Finium wrote:Waltz’s future in doubt following accidental war plan leakA senior administration official told POLITICO on Monday afternoon that they are involved in multiple text threads with other administration staffers on what to do with Waltz, following the bombshell report that the top aide inadvertently included Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg in a private chat discussing a military strike on Houthis.
Zero consequences.
Nothing learned.

by OklahomanEmpire » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:55 am
American Legionaries wrote:Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.

by Crysuko » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:56 am
Celritannia wrote:Crysuko wrote:You're just repeating yourself. When Both Smith, Keynes and Marx use the same terminology you have a term that is so thin and nebulous you can interpret it however you want.
As is liberalism, conservatism, socialism, democracy, and other such ideologies, but again, there is a basic concept.
Everyone can agree these basic needs should be met, but how far you go to ensure they are met is what is different.

by Umeria » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:56 am
Crysuko wrote:My conception of common good is social ownership of the means of production, the abolition of private property and decentralised planning. I bet it isn't yours. Because it means whatever the user wants it to mean.

by American Legionaries » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:57 am
OklahomanEmpire wrote:American Legionaries wrote:Sure I do, they're just not the things that you call good.
Hence the point here. "Good" is something different to everyone, there is no "common good" there is only "good" to certain people.
The common good is defined as "either what is shared and beneficial for all or most members of a given community." The concept of a common good is very much real, even though you seem desperate to not believe so. The common good is a set thing of what is best for the community, it isn't just to interpret willy-nilly, it is interpreted within a limit. For example, everyone having food to eat is good for a community. I'd be willing to bet you just don't want to think of or visualize the common good so you don't have to discuss the awful, freeloading poor people who need disgusting and unholy things like food, water, and shelter.

by Qaumodeen » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:57 am
Finium wrote:Waltz’s future in doubt following accidental war plan leakA senior administration official told POLITICO on Monday afternoon that they are involved in multiple text threads with other administration staffers on what to do with Waltz, following the bombshell report that the top aide inadvertently included Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg in a private chat discussing a military strike on Houthis.
Zero consequences.
Nothing learned.

by Southglory » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:59 am
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