Europeian Embassy - Comfed/Malaxa Elected to the Goldenblock

[JayDee II]

Imaging declaring three wars, the first of which was an central election issue, but announcing zero!

More like Europeian Narrowcasting Corporatation, smh.

sorry to keep you waiting

[Angeloid Astraea]

Imaging declaring three wars, the first of which was an central election issue, but announcing zero!

More like Europeian Narrowcasting Corporatation, smh.

sorry to keep you waiting

That's a raid of NSLeft's frontier... That's still not an announcement of any wars!

[King HEM]

Can I ask you an earnest question, honestly, no snark: What is your standing and/or interest in this embassy thread?

I feel like you've spent a disproportionate amount of time giving (almost universally critical) commentary in this thread without a clear interest in the matter and I'm sincerely curious why.

Oh may I count the ways.

Your region sees itself as one of the most premier regions on NationStates. Your region was once a close ally of mine, filled with positive acquaintances and experiences. I tuned into EBC shows on Mixlr, I spent many hours researching and passing a comprehensive Commendation to give you the recognition I believe you deserved.

Then, of course, it soured. Your region sought to control my region of the past decade with a tightening noose of restrictions, many of which I fought to find a way to work with for a time...and then dares to retcon that my faction were the ones creating a "fraudulent" relationship out of one side of your mouth, while out the other, your now-Delegate states your region's goal was always to make us "need" you, you restrict our actions to those you "allow," and, verbatim, to be "in control," which you've lost.

Now, you say in your speeches, that me and mine are a terrible mess that always did deserve to be controlled under a fake smile hiding a boot heel, while fluffing your egos with false claims of singlehandedly "galvanizing the world against it" - that, if you truly believe, should make it no surprise that I am interested in your affairs.

Alongside this, for another region of mine, you spat on diplomacy out the gate, then gone on to endorse Imperialism's time-travel-required false claims, and gone so far as to leverage those false claims to try and get every party in your sphere to not even let our diplomats in the door. You even replaced the commendation I wrote with a less comprehensive one, in the pursuit of that shutout.

Oh, and in the third and final region I participate in, you engaged in espionage, likely sourced from the same imperials as above, against the proceedings of the Assembly and attempted to use them to have a citizen punished - across the site again - for his speech.

You are self-inflated political meddlers, and now, we're about to be parties at war.

It would serve you much better to redirect even a tenth of the propaganda and ego that thrives in your own halls out onto this forum, so that you could bind even just yourselves to trying to actually live up to the greatness you so often ascribe yourselves, rather than just patting yourselves on the backs about it in your own house regardless of reality.

But it can be said shorter: Surely, no one here could possibly deny that you at least claim, as a region, persistently, to hold a position of high importance, of authority, of the trendsetter, of the leader, of a holder of influence, of the role model, as an esteemed and principle member of the big leagues. If one read even a single one of the article your media machine puts out in a given month, the conclusion that you see yourselves as incredibly important would be simply unavoidable. If you are indeed so central of a major player in interregional politics and Gameplay, than my interest in the matters of your region as a fellow Gameplayer should be a given and not a matter of uncertainty, shouldn't it?

Walk with the swagger and grandeur that you self-award, where you know you are important enough that of course I pay at least some attention to your goings-on, and drop a comment now and then. This act of demureness suits you poorly when placed against the verdant landscape of your ego.

Hmmmm...

Well, first off, I'm going to say that it's tough to respond specifically because the references to "my region" and "other region" and my "third region" get a little confusing. I suppose it doesn't really matter, because it's seems to be more personal than about specific grievances themselves.

But I guess my big picture reply is that the narrative of raiders bearing zero culpability for Europeia's foreign policy changes doesn't...make a ton of sense. Others, like Koth, have offered different views that are shaded more grey and can be argued backwards and sideways. But the implication of your post here, and the following one that you make, is that Europeia's foreign policy changes demonstrate something untoward and two-faced about us — and us alone — just doesn't make any logical sense.

Starting with something I've said before. Raiders had relationships in spades in Europeia. There were deep, deep, connections and friendships within our region and the leading invader groups. There were many times in our history we would astroturf a raider into leading our military because our capabilities were so limited. This was the status quo for years and years. Maybe raiders got used to leading Europeia by the arm with few restrictions, but it's not like our opposition to the greater idea of "Raider Unity" is new. A decade ago we stood firmly against a vision of Raider Unity that declared cooperation with Nazi regions was CRUCIAL for the strength of the invader movement. I am not suggesting today's Raider Unity movement supports that specific belief, but we've always been wary of the dogma, clearly. It doesn't pass the sniff test that we are the only ones who have changed — and done so in such an about-faced way to merit the diplomatic treatment we received.

It's also not like we don't have long histories of complicated relationships and alliances with friends we disagree with! We spent most of our relationship with The New Inquisition bickering like siblings. We have had plenty of disagreements with The LKE or with Balder. And quite a few of those debates had to do with us working with defenders in occasional raids *against them*. But we still worked it out. That's not to say it's all been sunshine and rainbows over the years, and we've surely made mistakes, but we've been a region with a long, long record of working things out with our partners. I'm sorry, but it is simply silly to point the finger exclusively at us after we had to navigate former partners who told us that they didn't care about our treaty and didn't intend to honor it, or others who told us we had 24 hours to stop running certain military missions Or Else.

And finally, this path has NOT been easier lol. It's been harder. A lot harder. We had a steady foreign policy for years that worked well, mostly. This path has been stressful, hard, and required a 24/7 effort of our citizens to withstand a barrage of new enemies. I will say, personally, it has been not fun to hear my region's character (and sometimes my own character!) questioned by players who I once considered friends, or at least warm partners. But ultimately, it's not about our feelings, it's about doing what is best for our region and partnering with friends who will help us do that.

You seem obsessed with ego: Europeia's ego, my ego, but there is no role in Europeia I have ever, ever held that I have not given up — including being a Governor and my ultimate power over the region. And I'm not unique in that regard. We are a democratic region that has passed the torch of leadership from person to person for a decade and a half. That means that every single leader's decisions get to be evaluated by their peers, and a new leader gets to reevaluate those choices and make different ones. The Europeian citizenry — typically a collection of roughly 100 voters — have sent person after person to executive office over the past 2ish years who have affirmed the direction we haven taken. Even on the hard days. It isn't ancient bad blood or old vendettas driving our decisions, it's objective facts and rationality. Most raider groups are not organized like that, and that's totally fine, but it means I don't have to worry about ego blinding our decision making.

Anyway...

I asked the question and sincerely appreciate your objectively interesting response.

[Hesskin Empire]

A decade ago we stood firmly against a vision of Raider Unity that declared cooperation with Nazi regions was CRUCIAL for the strength of the invader movement. I am not suggesting today's Raider Unity movement supports that specific belief, but we've always been wary of the dogma, clearly. It doesn't pass the sniff test that we are the only ones who have changed — and done so in such an about-faced way to merit the diplomatic treatment we received.

A decade ago when I was… 12. Clearly this is totally the same Ide- oh you even say that the ideal that you are attacking has changed since then? Tell me what exactly the point is in conflating what happened in 2013 to what we do today? Other than the fact what we do today is leagues more effective and based.

[King HEM]

A decade ago we stood firmly against a vision of Raider Unity that declared cooperation with Nazi regions was CRUCIAL for the strength of the invader movement. I am not suggesting today's Raider Unity movement supports that specific belief, but we've always been wary of the dogma, clearly. It doesn't pass the sniff test that we are the only ones who have changed — and done so in such an about-faced way to merit the diplomatic treatment we received.

A decade ago when I was… 12. Clearly this is totally the same Ide- oh you even say that the ideal that you are attacking has changed since then? Tell me what exactly the point is in conflating what happened in 2013 to what we do today? Other than the fact what we do today is leagues more effective and based.

Read my whole post and you'll know the point.

[Lord Dominator]

As someone who doesn’t care all that much about the conflict between everyone up above (at least not to that degree) I just want to know if and when Europeia intends to actually announce these wars that they apparently have approved.

[A Bloodred Moon]

Read my whole post and you'll know the point.

I did and your weird, out of place and what a generous soul might call “historically creative” example is still absurd and clashes with the rest of the post, which is something about how it’s unthinkable the people Europeia threw under the bus repeatedly might think you are two-faced. If you wanted to make a larger point, literally any example from the last decade would have been better.

[The Sea of Shadows]

A decade ago when I was… 12. Clearly this is totally the same Ide- oh you even say that the ideal that you are attacking has changed since then? Tell me what exactly the point is in conflating what happened in 2013 to what we do today? Other than the fact what we do today is leagues more effective and based.

Read my whole post and you'll know the point.

You have no point. How many are even still around? The LWU of 10 years ago is not the same as today. Why even bring this up?

[JayDee II]

Hello Everyone,

At the 18th hour (EDT) of Tuesday, October 3rd, I was informed that, after careful consideration, the Europeian Senate unanimously declared Europeia to be in a state of war against The Brotherhood of Malice and The Communist Bloc. These regions have continued to antagonize us and likeminded regions, showing no regard for decency as they callously violated the sovereignty of our allies and partners. They have gloated, mocked, and scorned our efforts as they operate without remorse and forsake morality. They have begged and pleaded for war, mocked our democratic procedures, and have roped innocent regions into this mess in order to push their juvenile agendas. But the enemies that insulted us have shown that they were ill-prepared for the war they so desperately wanted, and now they will reap the discord they sow.

We have joined several of our partners and allies in a raid against Solidarity, a Frontier which was - until recently - under the protection of TCB and their allies in NSLeft and will soon be a Stronghold under our control. This operation was predictably met with anger from our enemies, condemning us for attacking a supposedly “innocent” region. They have decried our tactics and accused us of strong-arming them to accept our terms; as if a war could be waged any other way. However, at the end of the day, the simple truth is that

They asked for this.

The leaders of BoM and TCB wanted war, they goaded us into war and mocked us for our “hesitation.” Yet here we stand, with the reality of war in our face and our enemies scrambling to rationalize their incompetence. Our enemies thought of war as nothing more than a circus show, a parade for Raiders as they marched over Defenders and Independents without hesitation or remorse. We held our hand and told them their desires were foolish, now our enemies see that there will be consequences for their actions.

Now is the time for action. Now is the time for war against those who make a mockery of this game. Together, we will show them the consequences of war.

Signed,
JayDee - President of Europeia
Pichtonia - Vice President of Europeia
Sanjurika - Minister of Foreign Affairs

Edit: Dispatch https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1940538

[The Hinterplace]

I stand with you, Mr. President.

[Ambis2]

You were informed… yesterday?

I was informed *checks notes* last Thursday. By *checks notes again* you. That’s odd, wouldn’t you say?

[Londoniopol]

Maybe Euro doesn't know what's happening in their own region

[JayDee II]

Hi! Thank you so much for the question, I’m delighted to see such keen interest in Europeian politics!

In Europeia we have this thing called a Senate which debates certain legislative and executive proposals. The power to declare war is reserved to the Senate who, as stated in the announcement, declared war against BoM and TCB unanimously on Tuesday!

Let me know if you have any further questions

[The Ambis]

Could have done with less sarcasm, but thank you

[A Forest Clearing]

Could have done with less sarcasm, but thank you

Ask snarky questions, get snarky answers.

[Bendicion]

Hi! Thank you so much for the question, I’m delighted to see such keen interest in Europeian politics!

In Europeia we have this thing called a Senate which debates certain legislative and executive proposals. The power to declare war is reserved to the Senate who, as stated in the announcement, declared war against BoM and TCB unanimously on Tuesday!

Let me know if you have any further questions

Curious question there….will there be an EBC talk about this one? I need something to listen to and I havent been particullarly a fan of the recent content which is mostly internal stuff.

Cheers

Ben was here

[The Ambis]

Could have done with less sarcasm, but thank you

Ask snarky questions, get snarky answers.

I was actually confused.

[JayDee II]

Could have done with less sarcasm, but thank you

Always happy to help

Hi! Thank you so much for the question, I’m delighted to see such keen interest in Europeian politics!

In Europeia we have this thing called a Senate which debates certain legislative and executive proposals. The power to declare war is reserved to the Senate who, as stated in the announcement, declared war against BoM and TCB unanimously on Tuesday!

Let me know if you have any further questions

Curious question there….will there be an EBC talk about this one? I need something to listen to and I havent been particullarly a fan of the recent content which is mostly internal stuff.

Cheers

Ben was here

ooh!! That would be a fun show!

[Lord Dominator]

Okay but is the LWU war happening or not

[The Sea of Shadows]

Okay but is the LWU war happening or not

Soon™

[Free Social Conservatives]

Okay but is the LWU war happening or not

Soon™

LWU war is Coming Soon™
Alright, got it.

[Jar Wattinree]

Okay but is the LWU war happening or not

Soon™

Okay Colonel Sandurz.

[Goobergunchia]

We have joined several of our partners and allies in a raid against Solidarity, a Frontier which was - until recently - under the protection of TCB and their allies in NSLeft and will soon be a Stronghold under our control.

(Emphasis added.)

Could you (or anybody involved in the operation, I'm not picky) please clarify who precisely "our" in this sentence refers to?

[Rhaza]

We have joined several of our partners and allies in a raid against Solidarity, a Frontier which was - until recently - under the protection of TCB and their allies in NSLeft and will soon be a Stronghold under our control.

(Emphasis added.)

Could you (or anybody involved in the operation, I'm not picky) please clarify who precisely "our" in this sentence refers to?

It will be a trophy of the regions involved and I will be the Governor.

[Arstotskiano]

We have joined several of our partners and allies in a raid against Solidarity, a Frontier which was - until recently - under the protection of TCB and their allies in NSLeft and will soon be a Stronghold under our control.

(Emphasis added.)

Could you (or anybody involved in the operation, I'm not picky) please clarify who precisely "our" in this sentence refers to?

I'm not involved other than one siege - but according to this dispatch, it would be Europeia, The League, 10000 Islands, The Grey Wardens, The North Pacific, Balder, Algerheaven, Sky Haven, The Land of Kings and Emperors, Declansburg, The Free Nations Region, The Union of Democratic States, Belgium, Community, Carcassonne, Holy Utopian Empire, 00000 A World Power, The Mystical Alliance, The Empire of Great Britain, The Sasquatch Republic and others as mercs.