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Refuge Isle
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Postby Refuge Isle » Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:59 pm

You know, I was just thinking that it's been quite a while since the last necromantic ritual that brings McMasterdonia back into the fray. Does one sacrifice a goat, or will any offering suffice?

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Postby MadJack » Sun Jul 02, 2023 1:20 am

Refuge Isle wrote:You know, I was just thinking that it's been quite a while since the last necromantic ritual that brings McMasterdonia back into the fray. Does one sacrifice a goat, or will any offering suffice?

We banned necromancy during my delegacy. :)
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NPA Saves Big on Defending

Postby Comfed » Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:01 am

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July 9, 2023

Here in the NPA, we like to innovate and save the citizenry's money. That's why we've found a brand new, never-before-seen way to R/D. It is better than endorsements, better than invisible scripts, and much, much better than Security Council Liberations. It stands to rival the zero second chase in importance: the zero dollar detag. Instead of the profligate spending on ineffective WA resolutions that surely makes our opposition look bad, we're out there cleaning up tagged regions for absolutely free.

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Postby Chipoli » Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:13 pm

Great to see the NPA active again!
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:35 pm

...but you haven't even detagged half of them yet :P

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2023/07/11 - South Pacific Liberated

Postby Comfed » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:40 am

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South Pacific Liberated
July 11, 2023

The Liberators played the Raiders today on the historic South Pacific field. The Liberators' lineup for the game included ten TNPers (seven "NPA soldiers" and three "civilians" in the slang of the locals.)

The most exciting moment was the bottom of the ninth inning, with the Liberators ahead 2-1 and the bases loaded for the Raiders. Pitcher Westinor was throwing the fastest pitches ever seen in her career, and sent batter Miravana the ball at 94 mph right into the strike zone. Miravana sent it flying into the outfield.

Just when it looked like the Raiders were going to take the lead at the bottom of the ninth, the Liberators won an incredible triple play, getting the batter and the runners on first and second base out, winning the game on a forced out.

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Postby Fort Concord » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:35 am

I like the ribbon, it looks cool. Good turnout from the NPA.
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Postby Lionsroar » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:44 pm

Congrats to us :clap:

And yes, the ribbon really is great!
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Postby Pichtonia » Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:15 am

It's good that you were there! :)

And big props to the ribbon artist!
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Zemnaya Svoboda
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Taking a Stand

Postby Chipoli » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:51 pm

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Taking a Stand


My fellow North Pacificans,

In the early morning of August 27th, during major update, The North Pacific was attacked by a combined force from The Communist Bloc and the Brotherhood of Malice. This invading force managed to successfully push Acting Vice Delegate Pallaith into the in-game delegacy, causing him to unintentionally seize it from our Acting Delegate and head of government, Chipoli.

This was the latest and most significant of a long series of belligerent and hostile actions intended to spite and antagonize The North Pacific. We have been attacked for continuing to be a leading voice against the unacceptable tactics and undiplomatic behavior shown by these regions going back to last year, and for taking steps and supporting others who stand up to them and challenge their ever-changing and inconsistent narratives meant to poorly explain away their juvenile antics. BoM and TCB are treated as normal actors on the world stage and are considered by far too many to be serious, legitimate regions. This is wrong, and every region who sympathizes with them and allows them to be a part of their affairs without holding them accountable for their misbehavior is just as responsible for this, and part of the problem. They cannot and should not be mistaken for members of our international community, because every action they take and every word they speak on that stage betrays how unworthy and unprepared they are to be a part of it.

An invasion of our region, no matter what form it takes or how insignificant the invaders deem it to be, is an act of war and will not be tolerated under any circumstances. What transpired two days ago was nothing less than an act of war and a blatant violation of our sovereignty, and we will recognize it as such. We have consulted with our allies The West Pacific and the New Pacific Order, and in the event the Regional Assembly recognizes a state of war exists, the relevant provisions of the Pax Polaris Occidens will be activated. We have also requested assistance and support from our other allies, to whatever extent they can provide, in order to combat these hostile regions. Our allies in the Modern Gameplay Compact have also agreed to extend the full slate of sanctions we previously signed on to last year to The Communist Bloc. They have antagonized all of our regions to various degrees since they began their own clownish campaign to race the Brotherhood to the bottom, whether by forcing the termination of long-standing treaties, attacking our mutual allies, or being an overall destructive, pugnacious force in our international community.

Regions may disagree, they may be on opposite sides of votes or clash on the field of battle, but there is a fundamental respect for our various places in the community of nations we all are a part of. These regions have no respect for that community or that tradition. They have done everything they can to make that as loud and clear as possible. It is beyond time for the other regions who call themselves a part of this greater gameplay community to recognize this. It is beyond time for those who lend them aid and comfort, and look the other way when they do these things, to step up and do the right thing. We call on all regions, even those who don’t share our views on democracy or sovereignty, to join us in sanctioning these regions or taking your own measures to confront and hold them accountable, and show them that as long as they embrace the path of chaos and denigration of this community, as long as they seek petty and destructive means to get their way, and as long as they bully and troll and seek only to discourage and distress their fellow nations, they do not deserve a place in our society.

Signed,

Chipoli
Acting Delegate of The North Pacific

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Mlakhavia
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Postby Mlakhavia » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:56 pm

I re-iterate my statements on the matter made through the TNP forum:

Speaking for myself alone, I cannot fault the North's actions as described here to the extent that I can reasonably object in good faith, though being uninvited from Timmy's birthday party (where we never planned to attend) is amusing at least. 'On Declinement', as the operation found itself called, was the tipping of a feeder; the aggression inherent to it as an action cannot be understated or downplayed. Any military and diplomatic response is the sovereign right of the North Pacific, to be exercised as it sees fit.

That being said, I see it as necessary, and within my boundaries, to clarify certain things that the Acting Delegate has omitted, either by design or by negligence. This is to provide the full picture and ensure that the North Pacific's community is not misled, and that if they support further action against the Revolutionary Republic and her allies, such support is offered with acknowledgement of the full context that led to this being undertaken by the People's Revolutionary Air Force. The framing is important, and as someone who believes in due diligence being applied to asserting things for the historical record, I likewise feel obliged to point this out.

The first stone in what appears to be an emerging feud between our regions was not cast by the Communist Bloc. We have never had a comprehensive diplomatic relationship or cultural connection to the North, and certainly we didn't hold you in high regard for quite some time prior to your more explicit aggression, but the vote to Injunct us - to keep us 'raidable', as your then-Delegate said - was an unacceptable transgression against another democratic government, and turned us from a mere opponent of circumstance into a fierce enemy of your interests.

When I saw that your regional security infrastructure had decayed to a point that you were well within the realms of 'bumpable', I swiftly contacted the Bloc's allies in the form of the Brotherhood of Malice, and very swiftly and efficiently organised a Delegate-tip to demonstrate the broad capacities of the People's Revolutionary Air Force, once the Marshal-Lieutenant had approved the act. The Communist Bloc is an independent republic with its own foreign policy, and will move to assert its sovereignty where less capable military forces slight us. If you continue to leave yourselves open to attack, and continue to aggress upon us, we will attack when and where we can.

We are not afraid of any repercussions that are within your capacity to levy. We are not afraid of your lethargic army, and neither do we fear your pathetic sanctions. You are a dying beast well past your prime, and you should go down with dignity rather than continuing to struggle against a region that has long demonstrated a tactical and strategic superiority as compared to the North. While I would love for relations to improve, this firmly lies on the shoulders of the North Pacific's government, and not the Bloc's response to your continued hubris-laden antagonisms.

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Postby Ostrovskiy » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm

An entirely correct and appropriate response from TNP.

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:11 pm

TNP's regional assembly has an opportunity to do the funniest thing ever
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Angeloid Astraea
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:28 pm

Chipoli wrote:as long as they embrace the path of chaos and denigration of this community, as long as they seek petty and destructive means to get their way, and as long as they bully and troll and seek only to discourage and distress their fellow nations, they do not deserve a place in our society.


Since moderation already ruled saying players like me don't deserve a place in society for playing the game in an intended way is well within acceptability and so mild it shouldn't even be reported, I'd like to take a moment and say that while I don't believe anyone should be disallowed from NS society unless they hold political views that are especially egregious, if we're going to take this route of societal elimination of gameplayers, I believe that anyone that responds to an action in a web-based browser game with the desire to societally wipe their in-game opponents from every corner of the site are the ones that should be kept from participation. I believe that because anyone with that kind of mindset is going to infect everything they touch with the sort of zero-sum gamesmanship and ultimately make everyone else more miserable than a raid ever could.
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Postby Halsoni » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:50 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:I believe that anyone that responds to an action in a web-based browser game with the desire to societally wipe their in-game opponents from every corner of the site are the ones that should be kept from participation.

So basically defenders who's goal it is to destroy raiderdom (IC, of course) shouldn't be allowed to play? Isn't that like the entire TGW ideology? Do elaborate if I'm at the wrong end here.

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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:00 pm

Halsoni wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:I believe that anyone that responds to an action in a web-based browser game with the desire to societally wipe their in-game opponents from every corner of the site are the ones that should be kept from participation.

So basically defenders who's goal it is to destroy raiderdom (IC, of course) shouldn't be allowed to play? Isn't that like the entire TGW ideology? Do elaborate if I'm at the wrong end here.

^ For the folks who can't tell, this is genuine.

I thought I worded it well enough but maybe not?

If you want to totally block raiders from raiding, I think that's fine. If you're a defender, that should be your goal. But I think anyone that wants to totally block raiders from enjoying any part of the game should have to suffer that fate themselves.
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Postby Halsoni » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:05 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:-snip-

Thank you for the explanation :hug:
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Esfalsa
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Postby Esfalsa » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:21 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Chipoli wrote:as long as they embrace the path of chaos and denigration of this community, as long as they seek petty and destructive means to get their way, and as long as they bully and troll and seek only to discourage and distress their fellow nations, they do not deserve a place in our society.


Since moderation already ruled saying players like me don't deserve a place in society for playing the game in an intended way is well within acceptability and so mild it shouldn't even be reported

I'm not sure I read that statement in quite the same way? The full sentence containing the excerpt that you quoted, for example, refers specifically to regions, not players. Emphasis mine:
Chipoli wrote: We call on all regions, even those who don’t share our views on democracy or sovereignty, to join us in sanctioning these regions or taking your own measures to confront and hold them accountable, and show them that as long as they embrace the path of chaos and denigration of this community, as long as they seek petty and destructive means to get their way, and as long as they bully and troll and seek only to discourage and distress their fellow nations, they do not deserve a place in our society.

I'd also note that the community or society is also named, earlier in that same paragraph, as a community of nations, not players.

Look, I get it; there's gameplay rhetoric that I've felt hurt by before, but I tend not to raise the issue because I usually recognize the intent behind it isn't to be hurtful and that gameplay rhetoric can't always land the way it's intended with every player. Perhaps there is a way to interpret this statement as saying that players like you don't deserve to play this game — but I think there's also a clear way to interpret it as saying regions that violate the norms of the interregional community (such as, to quote Sleet here, inherent aggression to the extent that any military and diplomatic response by TNP is justified) deserve to be sanctioned, confronted, and held accountable.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:53 pm

Mlakhavia wrote:Don't fuck with the Bloc. You have been warned.


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Postby The South Bloc » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:20 pm

"The North Pacific was attacked by a combined force from The Communist Bloc and the Brotherhood of Malice."
Forgive my ignorance, but has this is in some form happened before? The North getting delegate-tipped by the commies or smth?

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Postby Hulldom » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:25 pm

The South Bloc wrote:"The North Pacific was attacked by a combined force from The Communist Bloc and the Brotherhood of Malice."
Forgive my ignorance, but has this is in some form happened before? The North getting delegate-tipped by the commies or smth?

Did it? There was the NPO a few times, Gatesville the once, ...whoever the fuck Shoeless Joe was backed by once. I think this is the first explicitly dark magic themed communist del tip of TNP.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:48 pm

Hulldom wrote:
The South Bloc wrote:"The North Pacific was attacked by a combined force from The Communist Bloc and the Brotherhood of Malice."
Forgive my ignorance, but has this is in some form happened before? The North getting delegate-tipped by the commies or smth?

Did it? There was the NPO a few times, Gatesville the once, ...whoever the fuck Shoeless Joe was backed by once. I think this is the first explicitly dark magic themed communist del tip of TNP.

Let's not forget Durkadurkiranistan...twice.
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Postby Hulldom » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:50 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:
Hulldom wrote:Did it? There was the NPO a few times, Gatesville the once, ...whoever the fuck Shoeless Joe was backed by once. I think this is the first explicitly dark magic themed communist del tip of TNP.

Let's not forget Durkadurkiranistan...twice.

Fair, but he was always more internal, at least I as I understand it.
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Zemnaya Svoboda
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:07 pm

You're all talking about coups.

The last time a foreign adversary endorsed the second-most endorsed nation to do a delegate tip was Emperor Matthuis in February 2007, to the best of my knowledge.

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