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Eternal Algerstonia
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Founded: Apr 07, 2023
Ex-Nation

Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:20 pm

Very sad. Very, very sad. Maybe it's time to Make The Rejected Realms Great Again?

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Warden Roavin
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Posts: 47
Founded: Nov 04, 2016
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Warden Roavin » Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:40 pm

Kyorgia wrote:It's sad to see regions that are supposed to be historical allies of The Rejected Realms run to the defense of Euorpeia on this rather than take the side of the injured party.

Halsona wrote:It is truly absurd that the Aegis members fail to promptly assist a founding member. Any individual with even a shred of self-esteem would never perceive this situation as "resolved."


From the perspective of the Order of the Grey Wardens, Europeia's initial statement unilaterally declaring the matter closed was unacceptable and we pushed back accordingly to ultimately reach this (much better) outcome. I understand that there are still legitimately annoying parts about it but your characterization is, at least as it regards TGW, quite unfair.

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Warden Roavin wrote:As noted in the statement, Europeia itself isn't even aware of the leaker's identity, so I don't know what you expect to happen here.


That's if you believe Europeia. Europeia has shown it has no credibility throughout this whole situation so I'm not sure why anyone is taking their word for it.


You don't have to believe Europeia! And this is exactly why a reputable and independent third party trusted and agreed upon by both sides (Amerion) was shown the sauce to make a judgement, the summary of which is present in the statement. Assuming you trust Amerion in this matter, you can trust that what's in the statement is accurate.

A Bloodred Moon wrote:
Warden Roavin wrote:As noted in the statement, Europeia itself isn't even aware of the leaker's identity, so I don't know what you expect to happen here.

What the statement notes is that Europeia is fully aware of who does know the leaker's identity


It does not say that. Consider the situation of e.g. a throwaway puppet.
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Devious
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Founded: Oct 07, 2019
Corporate Police State

Postby Devious » Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:50 pm

Warden Roavin wrote:
A Bloodred Moon wrote:What the statement notes is that Europeia is fully aware of who does know the leaker's identity


It does not say that. Consider the situation of e.g. a throwaway puppet.

doesn't really pass the eye test.
by europeia's own admission, the region that shared the leak with them denied permission for details to be passed along, no?
it's be baffling behaviour to risk inflaming an already tense situation further for the sake of an anonymous throwaway :p
of course there's nothing substantive here, but it'd be strange.
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Halsona
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Founded: Jan 06, 2022
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Halsona » Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:49 pm

Quebecshire wrote:In Ruben's case, he's just posting platitudes anyway.

I simply share the same viewpoint as numerous individuals. Your attempt at an impressive "roast" is merely an empty declaration aimed at suppressing those who can see beyond this obvious façade.

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Klaus Devestatorie
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Founded: Aug 28, 2008
Anarchy

Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:31 pm

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Aegis bamboozled by Europeian eight dimensional chess. You're stuck with them now!

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Scardino
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Founded: Apr 23, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Scardino » Wed Jul 05, 2023 4:19 am

This is a perfectly reasonable outcome but some people just want blood. TRR has no leverage in this situation, they have no means of forcing the issue, and it’s in their best interest to take whatever the best is that Europeia will give them. Realistically, what real recourse does TRR have?
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Anarchy

Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:28 am

Mylowgrad wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:(Image)

Aegis bamboozled by Europeian eight dimensional chess. You're stuck with them now!

Yes, and because Europeia summoned Pot of Greed, they also get to draw 2 cards from their deck.

Given that Pot of Greed is banned from competitive play, you might actually have something actionable there.

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Jar Wattinree
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Founded: Dec 14, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Jar Wattinree » Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:38 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Mylowgrad wrote:Yes, and because Europeia summoned Pot of Greed, they also get to draw 2 cards from their deck.

Given that Pot of Greed is banned from competitive play, you might actually have something actionable there.

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Kyorgia
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Kyorgia » Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:11 pm

Quebecshire wrote:There is more than likely no spy. Leaker, obviously, but no spy. At best this is an exaggeration. Amerion's investigation included several follow-up questions from multiple delegations (not just TRR and Europeia), and he made it quite clear that it was "very unlikely" that the leaker had joined TRR "covertly".


Call it a spy or call it a leaker or call it your friend for all I care. The fact of the matter is that there is a citizen currently within The Rejected Realms that violated its sovereignty and all signs point to them doing it again. Europeia either knows who it is or knows which region does depending on what version of their story you choose to believe and actively chooses to not tell TRR about it. If this was happening to The League you would be posting a storm both here and in NSGP but because Europeia is your shiny new toy you are willing to throw TRR under the bus.

Quebecshire wrote:I conduct business with the government of The Rejected Realms


All regions make mistakes, even the ones I love.

Warden Roavin wrote:From the perspective of the Order of the Grey Wardens, Europeia's initial statement unilaterally declaring the matter closed was unacceptable and we pushed back accordingly to ultimately reach this (much better) outcome. I understand that there are still legitimately annoying parts about it but your characterization is, at least as it regards TGW, quite unfair.


I didn't mean to paint every Ageis region under the same brush but I do see why you would think so from my post. I have to apologize to TGW. They seem to be our most reasonable ally in this instance.

Warden Roavin wrote:You don't have to believe Europeia! And this is exactly why a reputable and independent third party trusted and agreed upon by both sides (Amerion) was shown the sauce to make a judgement, the summary of which is present in the statement. Assuming you trust Amerion in this matter, you can trust that what's in the statement is accurate.


I can trust Amerion even if he is from Glens region. What I do not trust is Europeia to not lie to Amerion. Europeia has changed their story so many times that it's hard to believe they somehow don't know who the leaker is.

Warden Roavin wrote:It does not say that. Consider the situation of e.g. a throwaway puppet.


What treaty obligations would prevent Europeia from revealing a throwaway puppet?
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TheKeyToJoy
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Founded: Aug 08, 2022
Democratic Socialists

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:57 pm

Walter white is not s TRR citizen.
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Toerana
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 469
Founded: Nov 27, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Toerana » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:33 am

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Joint Statement on the Amendment of the Renaissance Accords

We are pleased to announce that an amendment to the Renaissance Accords (2021) has been passed by both the Lazarene and Reject Assemblies. The original Accords marked—dare we say—a renaissance of friendly relations between our two regions. Historically, Lazarus and the Rejected Realms had been allies until the Lazarene Civil War.

While the Accords were initially adopted as a non-aggression pact, over time Lazarus and the Rejected Realms have rediscovered shared values—especially with Lazarus’ recent shift in alignment to defender. Today, we take another step forward: with the passage of this amendment, Lazarus and the Rejected Realms are once again allies.

We are excited for the future: A future of continued cooperation for the mutual benefit of our regions. We look forward to facing challenges together. This renewed alliance reflects not only our shared commitment to common ideals—strengthened by our mutual alignment—but also the progress we have made together.

As friends, Lazarus and the Rejected Realms affirm our dedication to peaceful diplomacy, mutual defense, and the promotion of a more just and stable interregional community.

Signed
Toerana,
Delegate of the Rejected Realms

Kyorgia,
Officer of Foreign Affairs of the Rejected Realms

Domais,
First Citizen of Lazarus

Wang Yao,
Minister of Foreign Affairs of Lazarus

The full amended treaty text can be read on our forums, here.

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Halsoni
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Founded: Oct 10, 2021
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Halsoni » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:48 am

Congratulations to both parties! It’s always good to see our allies become even closer friends with each other. :clap:
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Neo-Hermitius
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Founded: Jan 17, 2024
Corporate Police State

Postby Neo-Hermitius » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:54 am

wow finally the gp thread is used for something
great job guys

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Adkissa
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Founded: Mar 13, 2024
Democratic Socialists

Postby Adkissa » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:29 am

Congratulations, TRR and Lazarus!
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Lumeris
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Founded: Sep 11, 2024
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Lumeris » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:43 am

Congratulations and best wishes to both TRR and Lazarus!

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Emodea
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Founded: May 21, 2021
Capitalizt

Postby Emodea » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:08 am

Congratulations to both regions!
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New Anarchisticstan
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Founded: Dec 01, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Anarchisticstan » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:05 pm

good work TRR
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Earthly Cossack
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Founded: Jun 07, 2024
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Earthly Cossack » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:07 pm

“Bow stop gravedigging TRR’s thread”

Anyways congrats (or condolences) to bother parties!
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MadJack
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Founded: Aug 16, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby MadJack » Sat Oct 17, 2026 8:56 am

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Statement of Détente Between Balder and The Rejected Realms


For well over a decade, the relationship between Balder and The Rejected Realms has been characterised by mutual distrust which has created obstacles to harmonious relations both for each other and with other partners. In light of this, and with an optimistic eye to the future, we acknowledge that respectful and open dialogue between our regions in the interests of reconciliation is both beneficial and desirable. There is more work to be done to achieve said reconciliation, but we can take the first steps towards reaching that goal here.

With that in mind, we, the undersigned representatives of our governments, recognize a state of detente between our two regions. To be clear, this is not a binding treaty of non-aggression or alliance, but no longer would we consider ourselves to be hostile to one another as we seek to enter an era of better bi-lateral relations.

Accordingly, our governments profess the desire to strive towards:

Mutual recognition of sovereignty over our regions and the right to govern as we deem appropriate.
Mutual respect and understanding of the members of our communities.
Further discussions to understand and resolve our differences.

Previous attempts at reconciliation did not come to fruition, and our governments would like to express our regret over this. To better help our communities understand one another, we are exchanging offsite consulates.

Signed,

Dragonian Kazaman, Delegate and King of Balder
Mark, Statsminister of Balder

MadJack, Delegate of The Rejected Realms
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North East Somerset
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Founded: Jun 11, 2004
Left-Leaning College State

Postby North East Somerset » Sat Oct 17, 2026 8:57 am

After so many years of fruitless efforts, to see both regions suddenly come together and make a decisive move of rapprochement, brings me great joy. As a former King of Balder and a former citizen of TRR, who attempted but didn't succeed to achieve this progress, I embrace this positive development wholeheartedly.
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Juiulia
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Founded: Oct 03, 2019
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Juiulia » Sat Oct 17, 2026 9:00 am

This is amazing work. Congratulations to both regions! We look forward to their continued diplomatic negotiations.
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Rhaza
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Founded: Oct 26, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rhaza » Sat Oct 17, 2026 9:01 am

Happy to see some unproductive and ancient grudges set aside.

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Grace Wellesley Thayer
Civil Servant
 
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Founded: Jun 07, 2023
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Grace Wellesley Thayer » Sat Oct 17, 2026 9:15 am

This is excellent news. Congratulations to both of our friends!

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HumanSanity
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby HumanSanity » Sat Oct 17, 2026 11:00 am

Congratulations to both parties!
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Kabran
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Kabran » Sat Oct 17, 2026 4:54 pm

Congratulations
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