American Politics: The Speaker's Cornered

[Eternal Algerstonia]

yeah maybe its because you made us that way, conservatives are under attack by a communist agenda and we're getting mad because of all the hate dedicated to us, and everyone knows that when you get mad you make bad decisions, if the globalists would just calm down then conservatives will shine and president trump will win all 50 states in 2024

Nobody else can make you morally bankrupt. That is something you can only do to yourself.

darth sidious made anakin skywalker morally bankrupt in star wars, it can happen and it is happening

[San Lumen]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-r ... ing-2023-5

Trump tells Republicans 'to do a default' — risking the US economy — if the GOP doesn't get 'massive' spending cuts

I sadly have to agree with Trump here if the full faith and credit of the United States needs to be a bargaining chip then so be. If both sides aren't willing to reach a deal then we can't pay our bills and we default undermining the entire global financial system and the world financial infrastructure will no longer be based around US Treasury debt.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Nobody else can make you morally bankrupt. That is something you can only do to yourself.

darth sidious made anakin skywalker morally bankrupt in star wars, it can happen and it is happening

Anakin is responsible for his own failings, and so are you.

[Nazi Flower Power]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-republicans-do-a-default-gop-spending-cuts-debt-ceiling-2023-5

Trump tells Republicans 'to do a default' — risking the US economy — if the GOP doesn't get 'massive' spending cuts

I sadly have to agree with Trump here if the full faith and credit of the United States needs to be a bargaining chip then so be. If both sides aren't willing to reach a deal then we can't pay our bills and we default undermining the entire global financial system and the world financial infrastructure will no longer be based around US Treasury debt.

Dude, why?

[San Lumen]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-republicans-do-a-default-gop-spending-cuts-debt-ceiling-2023-5

Trump tells Republicans 'to do a default' — risking the US economy — if the GOP doesn't get 'massive' spending cuts

I sadly have to agree with Trump here if the full faith and credit of the United States needs to be a bargaining chip then so be. If both sides aren't willing to reach a deal then we can't pay our bills and we default undermining the entire global financial system and the world financial infrastructure will no longer be based around US Treasury debt.

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

[Shrillland]

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

Are the political ramifications really worth it to you? Democracies die when they default, or at least come dangerously close to the edge.

[San Lumen]

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

Are the political ramifications really worth it to you? Democracies die when they default, or at least come dangerously close to the edge.

Argentina survived it.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

Wouldn’t that cause a depression?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Are the political ramifications really worth it to you? Democracies die when they default, or at least come dangerously close to the edge.

Argentina survived it.

You do not want the United States to become Argentina lol

[Shrillland]

Are the political ramifications really worth it to you? Democracies die when they default, or at least come dangerously close to the edge.

Argentina survived it.

Barely. Five presidents in two weeks isn't a sign of a healthy nation. Nor is demagoguery jacked up to monstrous levels as we saw with Australia in 1936. Nor is extremism caused by hyperinflation as we saw with Weimar in 1921-22. Nor is anarchy as we saw with the fucking French Revolution.

[Tarsonis]

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

I'm all for making cuts. There's some gimmies right off the top. ATF has a budget of $1.5 billion, we can scrap that entire thing.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

I'm all for making cuts. There's some gimmies right off the top. ATF has a budget of $1.5 billion, we can scrap that entire thing.

What other suggestions?

[Spirit of Hope]

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

THATS NOT HOW THIS WORKS!

Defaulting on the debt isn't taking the credit card away, it's failing to pay the credit card. It is not paying people, mostly Americans, money that is owed to them. Why do you like the idea of the government not paying money it owes to people?

Not like people can take government to the debt collector, government has the army and police. You're basically saying the government should take money, promise to pay it back, and then stick a gun in people's face and say "nope, you aren't getting shit." In what world is that ok with you?

[Tarsonis]

I'm all for making cuts. There's some gimmies right off the top. ATF has a budget of $1.5 billion, we can scrap that entire thing.

What other suggestions?

FBI's is $11.4,B wouldn't scrap it entirely but a good draw down is probably in order.

NSA commands a whopping $80b.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What other suggestions?

FBI's is $11.4,B wouldn't scrap it entirely but a good draw down is probably in order.

NSA commands a whopping $80b.

Wtf I had no idea that NSA's was so high. Almost 8 times more than the FBI is insane.

[Tarsonis]

FBI's is $11.4,B wouldn't scrap it entirely but a good draw down is probably in order.

NSA commands a whopping $80b.

Wtf I had no idea that NSA's was so high. Almost 8 times more than the FBI is insane.

All those server farms with American's text messages cost money

[The Jamesian Republic]

What other suggestions?

FBI's is $11.4,B wouldn't scrap it entirely but a good draw down is probably in order.

NSA commands a whopping $80b.

Maybe the Democrats should suggest those things instead…

[Arval Va]

The TSA has a budget of 1.4b and has not stopped a single attack since its conception. The TSA missed 95% of concealed weapons in testing; it's blatant security theatre.

[Tarsonis]

FBI's is $11.4,B wouldn't scrap it entirely but a good draw down is probably in order.

NSA commands a whopping $80b.

Maybe the Democrats should suggest those things instead…

The Trumpists would find themselves in a very awkward situation

[Tarsonis]

The TSA has a budget of 1.4b and has not stopped a single attack since its conception. The TSA missed 95% of concealed weapons in testing; it's blatant security theatre.

Yes, but security theater works. You don't tear down the city walls just because nobody invades.

Could probably turn it over to the FAA, or the airlines, but that would make ticket prices skyrocket

[The Jamesian Republic]

Maybe the Democrats should suggest those things instead…

The Trumpists would find themselves in a very awkward situation

Isn’t the FBI bad now according to them?

[Tarsonis]

The Trumpists would find themselves in a very awkward situation

Isn’t the FBI bad now according to them?

Yep

[El Lazaro]

The TSA has a budget of 1.4b and has not stopped a single attack since its conception. The TSA missed 95% of concealed weapons in testing; it's blatant security theatre.

Great, that’s 0.0002% of the budget. Only 99.9998% of it would be left!

[Nazi Flower Power]

Dude, why?

Because we spend too much on stuff we don't need. We should not keep raising the debt limit over and over again. When your not responsible with the credit card you have it taken away.

Defaulting would be an immediate crisis. Reining in spending is an issue that can and should be addressed over a longer timescale.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Isn’t the FBI bad now according to them?

Yep

Yes… very awkward indeed. On one hand they could stick to an agency they dislike and on the other it’s an administration they dislike…