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The North Polish Union
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby The North Polish Union » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:59 am

Say what you will, I truly appreciate Quebecshire's dedication to getting the SC authorship badge on as many of his nations as possible. Its a truly unique form of badge hunting and has the advantage that most of the proposals at least appear legitimate and aren't the mediocre self-commends that practice is so often associated with. Some of us may quibble with the detail, but you have to admit that although authors have submitted proposals from multiple nations in the past, I don't think that I'd previously seen the variety in nations that Q's been bringing out recently. Bravo!
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The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.

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New Makasta
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Postby New Makasta » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:40 am

The North Polish Union wrote:Say what you will, I truly appreciate Quebecshire's dedication to getting the SC authorship badge on as many of his nations as possible. Its a truly unique form of badge hunting and has the advantage that most of the proposals at least appear legitimate and aren't the mediocre self-commends that practice is so often associated with. Some of us may quibble with the detail, but you have to admit that although authors have submitted proposals from multiple nations in the past, I don't think that I'd previously seen the variety in nations that Q's been bringing out recently. Bravo!

NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor
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Felix Legion I
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Felix Legion I » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:46 am

New Makasta wrote:Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS


Nonsense.
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Postby The Ice States » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:21 pm

Full support, naturally.
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-Northumbria
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Postby -Northumbria » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:47 pm

Opposed for obvious reasons.

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Isle of Westland
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Isle of Westland » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:06 pm

-Northumbria wrote:Opposed for obvious reasons.

What's a "Northumbria"?
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WayNeacTia
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Ex-Nation

Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:45 pm

New Makasta wrote:
The North Polish Union wrote:Say what you will, I truly appreciate Quebecshire's dedication to getting the SC authorship badge on as many of his nations as possible. Its a truly unique form of badge hunting and has the advantage that most of the proposals at least appear legitimate and aren't the mediocre self-commends that practice is so often associated with. Some of us may quibble with the detail, but you have to admit that although authors have submitted proposals from multiple nations in the past, I don't think that I'd previously seen the variety in nations that Q's been bringing out recently. Bravo!

NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor

Because there isn’t 700 other defenders out there that could submit the liberation? Right?

Felix Legion I wrote:I understand you're attached to your role as raiderdom's basic algebra person, but it's not that deep. I'm fully capable of influence calculations and management (see: when I ripped Malice's treaty ally to pieces in under a week, Maur's Concord in 3 days, and took point in helping New Westphalia's natives lock things down) as is the faction in general. You're free to continue fixating on something from 3-4 months ago and projecting it onto this situation, but it's simply not applicable.

“I”, “I”, “I”….. Do you even hear yourself? You did all of that, huh? You did all of that yourself huh? As much as you would like to believe, the game won’t magically die off and become a raider infested swampland because you didn’t do any of those things. Concord was going down regardless. You simply wanted to annex it, because you missed on Layem. As for Westphalia? That region is so ancient that I am quite sure there were an immeasurable number of codgers lined up ready to help them, simply so they could say they did.

Souls is pretty much universally recognized as as being a stand up guy. You on the other hand have a well documented propensity to spin a narrative to suit your needs. Seeing as how your main nation is “Quebec”shire, and you are formerly from the League of “Conservative ” Nations, I suppose it is quite fitting, seeing as how any time I read anything you have to say, all I can see is the empty shirt Pierre Pollievre yapping away.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Felix Legion I
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Felix Legion I » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:05 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:Because there isn’t 700 other defenders out there that could submit the liberation? Right?


The horror of the two people who wrote the proposal being credited as having done so.

Nothing else in your post warrants a response, Chester, I'm being charitable by replying to this part at all.
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:16 pm

Felix Legion I wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Because there isn’t 700 other defenders out there that could submit the liberation? Right?


The horror of the two people who wrote the proposal being credited as having done so.

Nothing else in your post warrants a response, Chester, I'm being charitable by replying to this part at all.

Predictable as always I see. I do love to hear the squeal when the arrow hits the mark square and true. When hard answers are required, it doesn't warrant a response. Excellent work Senator.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:25 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:Excellent work Senator.


You really get me

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:18 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Excellent work Senator.


You really get me

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I honestly want to know, do you have some addiction to either ignoring or willfully misrepresenting the point? Go after me all you want, I really don't care. Your continual attempts to gaslight Souls and everyone else is where I draw the line though.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Matthew the Man
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Ex-Nation

Postby Matthew the Man » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:32 pm

for a guy whose signature says "sarcasm dispensed moderately" you sure cant get it when the same is done toward you
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Isle of Westland
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Isle of Westland » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:58 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:

I honestly want to know, do you have some addiction to either ignoring or willfully misrepresenting the point? Go after me all you want, I really don't care. Your continual attempts to gaslight Souls and everyone else is where I draw the line though.

Sounds like someone needs a cup of tea... I'll pop the kettle on.
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The North Polish Union
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby The North Polish Union » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:59 pm

New Makasta wrote:
The North Polish Union wrote:Say what you will, I truly appreciate Quebecshire's dedication to getting the SC authorship badge on as many of his nations as possible. Its a truly unique form of badge hunting and has the advantage that most of the proposals at least appear legitimate and aren't the mediocre self-commends that practice is so often associated with. Some of us may quibble with the detail, but you have to admit that although authors have submitted proposals from multiple nations in the past, I don't think that I'd previously seen the variety in nations that Q's been bringing out recently. Bravo!

NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor

I was pretty clearly saying I thought it was unique? I don't know of many other authors that have passed resolutions on so many different nations. Python/Apato/Ice States/Magecastle has resolutions passed by 6 different nations and that's the only player I can think of that comes close.
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
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Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.

.
Balansujcie dopóki się da, a gdy się już nie da, podpalcie świat!
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POLAND
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The Poker
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby The Poker » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:00 pm

Isle of Westland wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:I honestly want to know, do you have some addiction to either ignoring or willfully misrepresenting the point? Go after me all you want, I really don't care. Your continual attempts to gaslight Souls and everyone else is where I draw the line though.

Sounds like someone needs a cup of tea... I'll pop the kettle on.

Got any Gatorade?

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:24 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:
New Makasta wrote:NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor

I was pretty clearly saying I thought it was unique? I don't know of many other authors that have passed resolutions on so many different nations. Python/Apato/Ice States/Magecastle has resolutions passed by 6 different nations and that's the only player I can think of that comes close.

Eh... I doubt it. As you can see, Q's motivation behind his authorship seems driven more by fealty and gluteus smoochism, rather than what was submitted on which nation.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Postby Westinor » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:28 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:
The North Polish Union wrote:I was pretty clearly saying I thought it was unique? I don't know of many other authors that have passed resolutions on so many different nations. Python/Apato/Ice States/Magecastle has resolutions passed by 6 different nations and that's the only player I can think of that comes close.

Eh... I doubt it. As you can see, Q's motivation behind his authorship seems driven more by fealty and gluteus smoochism, rather than what was submitted on which nation.

Hey! I provided the gluteus smoochism; I deserve credit too!! Just like I whined for credit on this proposal despite doing nothing to add to it :>
Stay safe, be kind, and have a great day! :)

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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:55 pm

Westinor wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Eh... I doubt it. As you can see, Q's motivation behind his authorship seems driven more by fealty and gluteus smoochism, rather than what was submitted on which nation.

Hey! I provided the gluteus smoochism; I deserve credit too!! Just like I whined for credit on this proposal despite doing nothing to add to it :>

It would be wrong to deny credit where it is due. Perhaps you can answer my question? Do you believe the situation is so exigent that proposals need to be pulled ahead of it, based purely on the math which Q claims to have done, or because Malice is involved in the raid?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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-Northumbria
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Postby -Northumbria » Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:27 am

Isle of Westland wrote:
-Northumbria wrote:Opposed for obvious reasons.

What's a "Northumbria"?

Not funny; didn’t laugh.

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Felix Legion I
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Felix Legion I » Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:22 am

The North Polish Union wrote:
New Makasta wrote:NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor

I was pretty clearly saying I thought it was unique? I don't know of many other authors that have passed resolutions on so many different nations. Python/Apato/Ice States/Magecastle has resolutions passed by 6 different nations and that's the only player I can think of that comes close.

From a non-argumentative/just generally interested in obscure SC stuff, it's not really unique to me at all... aside from the Magecastle example (which is more nations that I've used for authorship, including this proposal), even if we go exclusive to the Security Council: Lenlyvit and Moon have both done authorship across 4 nations, Cormac across 6, and plenty of people across 3 (Honeydewistania, The Stalker, Tim, Skyrim Diplomacy, Misley). Multiple nations in general is pretty common, you can see some more on the below list.

Hulldom wrote it all down, so this information is all pretty accessible.

Anyway, I'll gladly admit I wanted to put a badge or two (that I would've obtained anyway) on Fort Concord and Rhaza, those are basically mains to me, especially the former. This nation and Gondolair being used for authorship is more out of practicality (also not unprecedented! see Lenlyvit's authorship nations).
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Syberis
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Postby Syberis » Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:34 am

WayNeacTia wrote:
New Makasta wrote:NPU, can I call you NPU? I would hope that you can see this as clearly as its laid out, why would Quebec resign from a nation with ~110 endos, during a liberation mind you, to go back to his main nation to submit the SC proposal? Now I may not be as experienced as you are in NS but to me dropping WA for a liberation proposal that helps a liberation seems, counterproductive to say the least. But that is my 2 cents

edit: Forgot we added more endos at minor

Because there isn’t 700 other defenders out there that could submit the liberation? Right?


If I'm correct, do you not have 4 resolutions across three different nations? I would think that you would be one of the last people to complain about that.
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Postby Westinor » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:05 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:
Westinor wrote:Hey! I provided the gluteus smoochism; I deserve credit too!! Just like I whined for credit on this proposal despite doing nothing to add to it :>

It would be wrong to deny credit where it is due. Perhaps you can answer my question? Do you believe the situation is so exigent that proposals need to be pulled ahead of it, based purely on the math which Q claims to have done, or because Malice is involved in the raid?

Commend AO has fallen out of queue on its own; Commend Spiritus, on the other hand, has been authored by Quebec, and being that he is also the author of this proposal I see no reason why they shouldn’t wield the full authority on whether or not they want to pull it for this or not.

The natives have expressed that they want this liberation. I see no reason we shouldn’t give it to them, and continue to assure them that their region is not under long-term threat! Plus I hear that upon passage of this proposal, guinea pigs will rain from the skies in England. This must occur at the earliest convenience!

Please do not inquire about the survival rate of said guinea pigs.
Stay safe, be kind, and have a great day! :)

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Ex-Nation

Postby Strike » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:36 pm

FWIW The Ice States already indicated yesterday that they expected to pull Commend AO as well as seeing the Spiritus one pulled in favor of this one.

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Argvols
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Ex-Nation

Postby Argvols » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:48 pm

Is England going to be like the former invasions where the founder just came back?

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Ex-Nation

Postby Lord Dreamy » Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:35 pm

Support for obvious reasons

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