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Suth Seaxe
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Founded: Apr 25, 2022
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Suth Seaxe » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 am

As the raiders continually suppress my posts, I thought I'd share this pearl of information about the English language to all here.

I've just realized that nobody has mentioned going for a cheeky one.

Its a very English expression.

"Alright Dave, we haven't got much left to do as we're waiting for this concrete to set. Fancy a cheeky one?"

It implies that you're off to the pub as work has finished early and you can nip for a few swift pints and get home at your usual time without the family knowing.

Its cheeky as often it turns into more than 2 pints and you suddenly realise its 6pm and the traffic is raging.

You can also go for a "cheeky nandos".

" I'm hungry, fancy a cheeky nandos?"

Knowing that other people will be disappointed that they also didn't get to eat delicious chicken at Nandos you go off just the 2 or 3 of you as it just happened to be on the route to where you're going.

"This wedding is going to be long. Hey, look, a Nandos"
"Better make it a cheeky one we dont want to be late"

On the subject of Nandos, here's a joke

Who was the first chicken in space?

Apollo

"A pollo"...

This was your public information broadcast from Suth Seaxe. I hope you raiders take this new knowledge of the English language back to your home regions.

And to all you liberators, I owe you a cheeky one :)

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Numero Capitan
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Founded: Sep 27, 2007
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Numero Capitan » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:04 am

New Astri wrote:has an anglo nationalist dogwhistle as his nation name


English nationalists love using names given to their land by european invaders :roll: :roll:

Implying random individuals are nationalists without any factual basis is considered poor form at the best of times. Maybe tone down the lengths you'll stretch to in order to lie to your own citizens about why you're raiding somewhere.
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HumanSanity
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Founded: Feb 06, 2011
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Postby HumanSanity » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:08 am

New Astri wrote:you're kind of arguing against a point i'm not making here--i don't care whether or not market deeping is in government or about proving that it needs to be DND'd because i'm not a defender, it's not my op, and as far as i can tell it doesn't qualify for yr DND standards anyway. none of that is an appeal to you, it's just Me Saying I Don't Like England In A Thread About England

Invoking OOC claims in a thread about a target you are raiding cannot be passed off as "oh I was just saying". You are spreading libelous OOC messaging about an IC raid target to advance your agenda.

You are the leader of a major NS military. Act like it.
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The Notorious Mad Jack
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:08 am

New Astri wrote:
Reventus Koth wrote:You're welcome, this is one of the primary reasons why I raid. I'm genuinely glad that when all is said and done, your region will have benefited from the invasion in some way :)


leans over whispers. koth that one is the dude who was weird to BB and has an anglo nationalist dogwhistle as his nation name this is an awkward time for being endearingly wholesome towards natives

This is fucking hilarious. There's no universe where the name Suth Seaxe is a nationalist dogwhistle. What are you talking about?
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Jar Wattinree
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Founded: Dec 14, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:48 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
New Astri wrote:
leans over whispers. koth that one is the dude who was weird to BB and has an anglo nationalist dogwhistle as his nation name this is an awkward time for being endearingly wholesome towards natives

This is fucking hilarious. There's no universe where the name Suth Seaxe is a nationalist dogwhistle. What are you talking about?

Iconoclasm I imagine would be the only rational explanation.
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-Northumbria
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Founded: Oct 28, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby -Northumbria » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:52 am

Numero Capitan wrote:
New Astri wrote:has an anglo nationalist dogwhistle as his nation name


English nationalists love using names given to their land by european invaders :roll: :roll:

Implying random individuals are nationalists without any factual basis is considered poor form at the best of times. Maybe tone down the lengths you'll stretch to in order to lie to your own citizens about why you're raiding somewhere.

Well, you're wrong about the first part, actually, and I would ask you to please learn some basic facts about English history before making statements like this in the future. Nevertheless, you are right about the second, and someone who uses the name of an Anglo-Saxon kingdom as his nation's, I am demanding an apology from New Astri.

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WayNeacTia
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:16 pm

Much butthurt over a comment. Swiss timing at it’s finest…..
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:02 am

It appears raider forces have managed to achieve two more border control officers. I guess defenders are just going to ride on the back of the liberation so they aren’t required to do any actual work. Security Council welfare at its finest…..

Edit: Fixed stupid iPhone typo from “are” to “aren’t”.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:06 am

Liberate England was passed 11,080 votes to 1,984.

Thank you to all who supported.
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Mlakhavia
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Founded: Mar 31, 2022
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Postby Mlakhavia » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:42 am

Matthew the Man wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Unfortunately that’s New Astri all over. How someone could decide an ancient name for one of the Heptarchy of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms is a nationalist dog whistle is beyond me.

New Astri just says things man, better to ignore them and move on with this proposal and overall liberation! :D

I mean, as the source for the anglo nationalist dogwhistle claim I can confirm the native in question proceeded to deploy some hideously pro-colonialist rhetoric including a claim that a nations' failure to adhere to english common law is "barbaric" and made general excuses for the opium wars, so I think my assumption of far-right nationalism was, uh, entirely fucking correct.
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/ Independent of the Year 2023 / Air Marshal of the People's Revolutionary Air Force / Terror of Trinidad /

Perfidious trickster beloved by all*, legitimate Delegate of Warzone Trinidad, &c. 'Tyrant', 'unhinged', 'Misley 2', 'fucking annoying', 'a genuinely terrible person'
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[iota] — «being british is fine when you do it»
[nota] — «you embody the spirit of what i enjoy in raiding»
[wasc] — «Sleet is an amazing person, do not follow in her footsteps»

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Mlakhavia
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Postby Mlakhavia » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:52 am

-Northumbria wrote:
Numero Capitan wrote:
English nationalists love using names given to their land by european invaders :roll: :roll:

Implying random individuals are nationalists without any factual basis is considered poor form at the best of times. Maybe tone down the lengths you'll stretch to in order to lie to your own citizens about why you're raiding somewhere.

Well, you're wrong about the first part, actually, and I would ask you to please learn some basic facts about English history before making statements like this in the future. Nevertheless, you are right about the second, and someone who uses the name of an Anglo-Saxon kingdom as his nation's, I am demanding an apology from New Astri.

ackchyually if you wanted to use the red flag obsession with old english larp, you'd have to call your nation "northanhymbra" :ugeek:
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/ Independent of the Year 2023 / Air Marshal of the People's Revolutionary Air Force / Terror of Trinidad /

Perfidious trickster beloved by all*, legitimate Delegate of Warzone Trinidad, &c. 'Tyrant', 'unhinged', 'Misley 2', 'fucking annoying', 'a genuinely terrible person'
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[iota] — «being british is fine when you do it»
[nota] — «you embody the spirit of what i enjoy in raiding»
[wasc] — «Sleet is an amazing person, do not follow in her footsteps»

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Suth Seaxe
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Founded: Apr 25, 2022
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Suth Seaxe » Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:15 am

Mlakhavia wrote:
Matthew the Man wrote:New Astri just says things man, better to ignore them and move on with this proposal and overall liberation! :D

I mean, as the source for the anglo nationalist dogwhistle claim I can confirm the native in question proceeded to deploy some hideously pro-colonialist rhetoric including a claim that a nations' failure to adhere to english common law is "barbaric" and made general excuses for the opium wars, so I think my assumption of far-right nationalism was, uh, entirely fucking correct.


I don't even know where to begin. I gave up trying to make my point as you all just dogpiled and suppressed everything. England has a long history and of course there are stains on any nation that is over 2000 years old. The point I was trying to make was that England was the first to reverse course on issues like slavery despite at the time it being seen as normal.

Of course the opium wars were barbaric. But they did stop it. You are trying to compare ancient peoples to today's morals. Most of the morals you base your comparison on are drawn from English common law precedents.

And I'm sure if you went to China , Iran, North Korea with summary executions no habeus corpus no functioning democracy or institutions outside of the state you'd find it barbaric too. Of course they are barbaric. The idea of freedom and individual rights comes from the principles from English common law.

But you had no interest in any of that and just dogpiled and suppressed. I just gave up and started annoying people instead in the RMB. It got so bad that moderators had to step in to prevent all the disgusting IRA posting and calls for English genocide and "balkanization".

Well done Raiders. I'm glad you're gone.

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Isle of Westland
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Postby Isle of Westland » Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:22 am

Mlakhavia wrote:
Matthew the Man wrote:New Astri just says things man, better to ignore them and move on with this proposal and overall liberation! :D

I mean, as the source for the anglo nationalist dogwhistle claim I can confirm the native in question proceeded to deploy some hideously pro-colonialist rhetoric including a claim that a nations' failure to adhere to english common law is "barbaric" and made general excuses for the opium wars, so I think my assumption of far-right nationalism was, uh, entirely fucking correct.

And he would be uh, entirely fucking correct.
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Acts of Union
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Postby Acts of Union » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:51 am

Yay! It's been liberated!
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Astrobolt
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Astrobolt » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:02 am

Mlakhavia wrote:
Matthew the Man wrote:New Astri just says things man, better to ignore them and move on with this proposal and overall liberation! :D

I mean, as the source for the anglo nationalist dogwhistle claim I can confirm the native in question proceeded to deploy some hideously pro-colonialist rhetoric including a claim that a nations' failure to adhere to english common law is "barbaric" and made general excuses for the opium wars, so I think my assumption of far-right nationalism was, uh, entirely fucking correct.


This entire thing was disproven in the NSGP Discord, with you not even properly reading the RMB posts you were bringing up. No where was anyone espousing ‘pro-colonialist’ rhetoric.

This has been mentioned before, but the natives of England must be praised for their stellar attitude and perseverance in the face of invasion and slander against their members. I wish them the best as they rebuild their region and can’t wait to see what they do next.
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Acts of Union
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Postby Acts of Union » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:05 am

Mlakhavia wrote:
Matthew the Man wrote:New Astri just says things man, better to ignore them and move on with this proposal and overall liberation! :D

I mean, as the source for the anglo nationalist dogwhistle claim I can confirm the native in question proceeded to deploy some hideously pro-colonialist rhetoric including a claim that a nations' failure to adhere to english common law is "barbaric" and made general excuses for the opium wars, so I think my assumption of far-right nationalism was, uh, entirely fucking correct.

The Whole "Nationalist dogwhistle" crap was debunked. You are now throwing useless attacks at people thinking you are going to get somewhere.
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Felix Legion I
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Postby Felix Legion I » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:51 am

Come one come all! The glorious might of the Sekhmet Legion and co. in England! Where they,

  • Lost 2 regional officers to tactical failures (near unheard of in occupations),
  • Managed to have the natives get more under their skin than vice versa,
  • Couldn't wipe our influence wall, adding 1,000+ SPDR to a large amount of defender nations in the region,
  • Banned some natives and left, natives who are already back in the region due to the immediate banlist clearing.

Great use of 12 days

PS I enjoyed banning 100 of you, let's do it again sometime
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Acts of Union
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Postby Acts of Union » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:00 am

And also, The Natives of England acted far more maturely and far more reasonable than the raiders.
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:17 am

Felix Legion I wrote:Come one come all! The glorious might of the Sekhmet Legion and co. in England! Where they,

  • Lost 2 regional officers to tactical failures (near unheard of in occupations),
  • Managed to have the natives get more under their skin than vice versa,
  • Couldn't wipe our influence wall, adding 1,000+ SPDR to a large amount of defender nations in the region,
  • Banned some natives and left, natives who are already back in the region due to the immediate banlist clearing.

Great use of 12 days

PS I enjoyed banning 100 of you, let's do it again sometime

England did actually have some embassies while under occupation, so there was an upside.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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