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by Sedgistan » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:39 am
by Quebecshire » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:39 am
Sedgistan wrote:I'd expect it to probably be Governor, since as discussed above, the Founder position is going to end up being essentially a historical footnote.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
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by Improper Classifications » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:41 am
Quebecshire wrote:Sedgistan wrote:I'd expect it to probably be Governor, since as discussed above, the Founder position is going to end up being essentially a historical footnote.
Somewhat adjacent to this, rarity aside, it would be cool if we could keep the Founder badge, and maybe a new one be created for Governors?
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:What can I say? I do know how to improve this out of all measure though. Firstly, print out your draft on some nice paper. Secondly, take your draft out for a healthy walk in the country. Next find a field of cows and feed the draft to them. Finally just wait - the improved end product will come out of their ends so to speak.
by Tinhampton » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:55 am
by Sedgistan » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:29 am
by Improper Classifications » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:31 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:What can I say? I do know how to improve this out of all measure though. Firstly, print out your draft on some nice paper. Secondly, take your draft out for a healthy walk in the country. Next find a field of cows and feed the draft to them. Finally just wait - the improved end product will come out of their ends so to speak.
by Cappedore » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:42 am
Sedgistan wrote:I think question one is whether Frontiers will have an associated regional tag. The answer is yes.
Will there be something on a Frontier page to explain what it is / how it is different to a normal region - yes, the intention is to have that.
You'll note I've mentioned this for Frontiers only. It's a possibility that the term "Stronghold" (and the various alternatives we've considered) won't be used at all. Instead those will just be regular regions without a particular label/name. Frontiers, will (like Feeder, Catcher, Restorer, Warzone, School) be one of the region types that is different from a standard region.
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by Quebecshire » Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:21 pm
Cappedore wrote:Maybe a certain colour for the region name? A border around the flag?
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by One Small Island » Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:28 pm
Cappedore wrote:Sedgistan wrote:Will there be something on a Frontier page to explain what it is / how it is different to a normal region - yes, the intention is to have that.
Maybe a certain colour for the region name? A border around the flag? Or something in the WFE that comes as default to all Frontier regions?
by Juansonia » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:22 pm
Perhaps separate successorhood from ROs, so it doesn't matter whether the successor happens to be an RO or not.Sedgistan wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Can a Successor resign their position as such like a Governor can?
"Successor" will be just another RO power. ROs can resign their position.Tinhampton wrote:"A Successor is appointed as a Regional Officer position." Will it count towards the limit of twelve or will the RO limit be bumped up to 12+1 for Strongholds to account for this?
Hasn't been considered.
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by Flanderlion » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:04 pm
by Improper Classifications » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:35 pm
Flanderlion wrote:Juansonia wrote:Perhaps separate successorhood from ROs, so it doesn't matter whether the successor happens to be an RO or not.
RO slots should be unlimited, just the other powers should be more limited. So max 1 successor appointed, max 1 governor appointed, max 12 BC powers appointed etc. But if a region wants to give every member a RO position 'citizen' with polls powers, they should be able to.
Edit: Or give every region member a RO position 'pleb' with no powers.
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:What can I say? I do know how to improve this out of all measure though. Firstly, print out your draft on some nice paper. Secondly, take your draft out for a healthy walk in the country. Next find a field of cows and feed the draft to them. Finally just wait - the improved end product will come out of their ends so to speak.
by New Dominioan » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:29 pm
by The Ambis » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:14 pm
New Dominioan wrote:Apologies if a question like this has been asked before.
Asking about my region Bluecrown Keep. Founder account is dead, so would I be able to pass the governor position down to another nation even though there is no founder to appoint a successor?
Never mind. Looked back and found some answers.
by Sedgistan » Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:42 pm
by The Ambis » Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:39 am
by Quebecshire » Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:36 am
Sedgistan wrote:Frontiers won't quite be ready by the end of the month, but they shouldn't be far off. Violet is confident she'll have completed both coding and a period of staff testing by the end of the month. However, I'd like a couple of weeks with players beta testing it on the "Playground" (NS3) before we launch, so at present we're looking likely to be mid-April for this to go live on NS proper.
As ever, nothing is 100%.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:49 am
The Ambis wrote:Lovely stuff! Highly looking forward to this.
Quick question: Is [v] or any of the other admin anticipating downtime to add it in, or will they just appear?
by Sedgistan » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:57 am
Quebecshire wrote:Thanks for the update, Sedge. Two brief questions,
- Can we expect a post here to inform us when it's gone to testing?
- Will we be given a concrete announcement/advance notice, even if just a few days, before the update goes live?
by The Ambis » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:21 am
by Sedgistan » Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:42 am
by Reventus Koth » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:55 am
Sedgistan wrote:"Governor Emeritus" concept is dropped as unnecessary complexity (both conceptually and for coding).
Sedgistan wrote:"Governor" is introduced as a new term to recognise a nation that has permanent Executive powers that can be used without influence cost. These get recognised on the region pages of Strongholds. "Governor Emeritus" is introduced to recognise the last Governor of a region that has now transitioned to Frontier status, and are recognised on the region page of Frontiers, but have no powers. All current Executive Founders become Governors.
Sedgistan wrote:Frontier to Stronghold - the Delegate (the only nation that can have Executive powers) can start the process in the same way - same influence cost, and same 2 week period. Spawnings cease if they initiate this switch - you don't get the benefits if you're quitting Frontier status! If the Governor Emeritus still exists, then they will regain Executive status on the transition completing. If the Governor Emeritus nation does not, then the Delegate holding the region at the time of the transition enacting becomes Executive Governor. A password can be set while this switch is ongoing, as "Anchor" (below) is a tool in place to allow these transitions to be blocked. If the Delegate position changes hands during this process, then an additional 3 days are added to the transition time period.
This allows regions to reverse course if they find they no longer want to be Frontiers. It also allows for an element of permanent conquest of Frontiers if the Governor Emeritus nation is no longer present; an invasion can be made "permanent" when the WA Delegate becomes Executive Governor. This also provides a means for governorless Stronghold regions to appoint a new Governor, but they have to go via a convoluted change to Frontier and back.
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by Sedgistan » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:42 pm
by Onionist Randosia » Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:50 pm
Refuge Isle wrote:Sedgistan wrote:I get the appeal of allowing customisation, but a single term used across the site is much more readily understood by users across the site.
Not sure why one would discount the possibility of the other tbqh. Not saying you're not allowed to use the term "Governor". I'm recommending you allow regional customisation on top of that.
Additionally, if the concept of "Founder" becomes irrelevant, you can remove or relocate "Founder" to below the WFE or /page=region_history if you think it makes the front page "too cluttered".
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