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Postby Nora Xent » Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:21 pm

Juristonia wrote:>Pick a twitter fight and get bodied by Greta Thunberg
>Go to Romanian prison

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:46 pm

It says nothing about Andrew Tate actually being imprisoned or charged. The news stories make it seem he's arrested for interrogations but once let go, he is free to flee Romania or even the UK and all EU countries.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:33 pm


Bro started shit with a 19 year old, got fucking ratioed on twitter, made a pathetic response that did nothing but doxx himself to the Romanian government which then got him arrested.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:36 pm

Saiwania wrote:It says nothing about Andrew Tate actually being imprisoned or charged. The news stories make it seem he's arrested for interrogations but once let go, he is free to flee Romania or even the UK and all EU countries.

He was arrested by the Romanian Directorate for Investigating Organised Crime and Terrorism(DIICOT) and is being charged with sex trafficking and rape. I don't think they're letting him go.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:54 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:Ever get ratioed by a teenager so hard you end up in prison?

And he started it, the unbelievable loser.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:05 pm

Forwards-planning? Risk-reward evaluation? Anticipation of consequences? What does he look like, some kind of prey, a loser?

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Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Forwards-planning? Risk-reward evaluation? Anticipation of consequences? What does he look like, some kind of prey, a loser?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:18 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Forwards-planning? Risk-reward evaluation? Anticipation of consequences? What does he look like, some kind of prey, a loser?

True Alpha Males(tm) do things. Thinking makes you weak.

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"what do you mean being a spoiled brat with despicable interests has consequences irl???" - these sort of ppl probs

I believe that Tate's fans are taking this as an attempt by "the matrix" to silence Tate. You know, the fans he has left after Greta Thunberg casually backhanded the soul out of his body.
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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:47 pm

The internet is dunking on Tate for being arrested over a Pizza Box in a video where he was trying to cope over being ratioed and owned by Greta Thunberg of all people and GODDAMN is that hilarious.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:48 pm

Perikuresu wrote:The internet is dunking on Tate for being arrested over a Pizza Box in a video where he was trying to cope over being ratioed and owned by Greta Thunberg of all people and GODDAMN is that hilarious.

Jerry's must do great pizza.
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Postby Shermania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:33 pm

I will permit myself a bit of schadenfreude over this.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:33 pm

Perikuresu wrote:The internet is dunking on Tate for being arrested over a Pizza Box in a video where he was trying to cope over being ratioed and owned by Greta Thunberg of all people and GODDAMN is that hilarious.

It does reinforce the notion that you do not try and out cut a teenage girl. They have been forged in the fire of...other teenage girls.
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Postby Shermania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:The internet is dunking on Tate for being arrested over a Pizza Box in a video where he was trying to cope over being ratioed and owned by Greta Thunberg of all people and GODDAMN is that hilarious.

Jerry's must do great pizza.

So I did not actually watch the video. Was there a reason those pizza boxes were very conspicuously placed directly front and center? Because it struck me at the time as a very odd thing, and in retrospect it seems incredibly stupid.

Not that I've ever accused tate of an abundance of intelligence. My first exposure to him was his opining that he was "too smart to read." And that told me everything I needed to know. But still. Why center the camera on pizza boxes?

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:46 pm

I don't get how anyone finds him entertaining. He's extremely boring to watch. Of all the times he has pulled up in my feed, I haven't seen any misogynistic posts, but just really, really, really annoying and unamusing "money tips"

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:50 pm

Shermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Jerry's must do great pizza.

So I did not actually watch the video. Was there a reason those pizza boxes were very conspicuously placed directly front and center? Because it struck me at the time as a very odd thing, and in retrospect it seems incredibly stupid.

Not that I've ever accused tate of an abundance of intelligence. My first exposure to him was his opining that he was "too smart to read." And that told me everything I needed to know. But still. Why center the camera on pizza boxes?

At a guess, he was trying to give off vibes of him and the boys having a few brewskis and watching the game. Trying very hard to seem like he hadn't been owned while he shrank and transformed into a corncob.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Shermania wrote:So I did not actually watch the video. Was there a reason those pizza boxes were very conspicuously placed directly front and center? Because it struck me at the time as a very odd thing, and in retrospect it seems incredibly stupid.

Not that I've ever accused tate of an abundance of intelligence. My first exposure to him was his opining that he was "too smart to read." And that told me everything I needed to know. But still. Why center the camera on pizza boxes?

At a guess, he was trying to give off vibes of him and the boys having a few brewskis and watching the game. Trying very hard to seem like he hadn't been owned while he shrank and transformed into a corncob.

Having also not watched the video and having no fucking idea who this Tate guy is since I didn't look him up last time I saw this thread, I was poking around trying to figure out why this dude was trying to twitter dunk on Gertenberg like 4...5 years after the fact? One line I read referred to him holding the boxes up proudly proclaiming that they would not be recycling them.
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Postby Shermania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:55 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ifreann wrote:At a guess, he was trying to give off vibes of him and the boys having a few brewskis and watching the game. Trying very hard to seem like he hadn't been owned while he shrank and transformed into a corncob.

Having also not watched the video and having no fucking idea who this Tate guy is since I didn't look him up last time I saw this thread, I was poking around trying to figure out why this dude was trying to twitter dunk on Gertenberg like 4...5 years after the fact? One line I read referred to him holding the boxes up proudly proclaiming that they would not be recycling them.

Oh no! That means we'll have to wait for the cardboard to biodegrade. As it does.

What a nightmare.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:00 pm

Floofybit wrote:I don't get how anyone finds him entertaining. He's extremely boring to watch. Of all the times he has pulled up in my feed, I haven't seen any misogynistic posts, but just really, really, really annoying and unamusing "money tips"


He's speaking to gullible people who're desperate to make "passive" income work. Which doesn't really exist in the truest sense of the word, outside of inheriting a big fortune or winning the lottery. Most people are talking about entrepreneurial income or investment income when they say it is "passive" but really at the end of the day- that requires you to either put in work/effort to make that income materialize, or to already have significant capital to invest with, usually on the order of having $600,000+ minimum to possibly get a higher return than what you'll spend down. If sticking to 4% rule of retirement financing.

Whatever you want to live off of in 1 year, you'll need x20 at least, with that total x2 to fully account for inflation or any devaluing of money/assets.

Most influencers like Andrew Tate make money via selling "courses", and you the customer aren't going to come out ahead if you bought in- because your money is going directly to whoever is selling the course. You're not the one benefiting, outside of whether the advice/content purchased has real life utility or if it doesn't and its a pure scam/rip off.

As one example, if Andrew Tate got just 10,000 people to buy his product for $600, he can expect to pull in around $6,000,000 for that year. If he has a large fanbase cultivated, it can be much more or it matters not if only a small fraction of that audience is "suckered in" to buying from him, because the "grift" scales well if he is well known enough as to get some demand.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:13 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't get how anyone finds him entertaining. He's extremely boring to watch. Of all the times he has pulled up in my feed, I haven't seen any misogynistic posts, but just really, really, really annoying and unamusing "money tips"


He's speaking to gullible people who're desperate to make "passive" income work. Which doesn't really exist in the truest sense of the word, outside of inheriting a big fortune or winning the lottery. Most people are talking about entrepreneurial income or investment income when they say it is "passive" but really at the end of the day- that requires you to either put in work/effort to make that income materialize, or to already have significant capital to invest with, usually on the order of having $600,000+ minimum to possibly get a higher return than what you'll spend down. If sticking to 4% rule of retirement financing.

Whatever you want to live off of in 1 year, you'll need x20 at least, with that total x2 to fully account for inflation or any devaluing of money/assets.

Most influencers like Andrew Tate make money via selling "courses", and you the customer aren't going to come out ahead if you bought in- because your money is going directly to whoever is selling the course. You're not the one benefiting, outside of whether the advice/content purchased has real life utility or if it doesn't and its a pure scam/rip off.

Passive income is any income you get in which you don’t get a salary for. Rent and stocks are both passive income sources. Passive doesn’t mean not working it means not collecting a salary as since if everything works well you can sit back and passively earn money
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Passive income is any income you get in which you don’t get a salary for. Rent and stocks are both passive income sources. Passive doesn’t mean not working it means not collecting a salary as since if everything works well you can sit back and passively earn money


The problem is that most income sources don't work out well automatically. It isn't like collecting dividends or bank interest on a large/massive balance.

Rent is not passive in that you have to manage the property and all the bullshit that comes along with owning it, like doing repairs/maintenance and to pay the taxes and mortgage on it (if applicable). Stocks aren't passive because you have to do the research on corporate balance sheets and look at if its trajectory is good or bad. If your company goes obsolete, you'll probably lose your money in it over the long term. Apple went up, but Circuit City or JC Penny went downward until those places were gone or nearly gone.

Income which is passive in the truest sense of the word, is the most advantageous economic position possible, which is why it simply doesn't ever happen in real life more often than not. It may for a short time, but something along the way disrupts that without any actions on your part.

Harry Potter was a cash cow in its heyday, but once it became old news, its income obviously went down to reflect its new status as no longer #1 in its genre.
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