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Reverend Norv
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:29 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Hey, Reverend Norv, been reading your app and like your history. You do have my approval and I'm alright with it, but I would like a minor change: perhaps make one of the wars between the Praelians and the Imperium a bit less lopsided? Perhaps you could add another conflict in which the Praelians attempted to overthrow the Imperium itself as an entity but failed due to supply issues/something else which caused them to abandon the expedition? Just to make it a bit less lopsided because so many military defeats would A) create the question as to why the Praelians did not go forth with outright conquest, B) would have shaken too much the domestic political situation, C) make my guys look completely incompetent which is something I would rather avoid (having my guys be able to score a victory once in a while would also make any interactions more interesting :p ).

Other than that minor issue, app looks great. :)


No worries. I'll add a third war since independence, in which the Republic overreached, was defeated, fell back to its own borders, and then managed to eke out a draw to preserve its own survival. I agree that such a conflict would make for a more interesting story. But the real reason why the Praelians never could have truly "won" is simply size: there are 4.8 trillion people in the Imperium, and only 90 billion in the Republic. In other words, there are fifty-three times as many people in the Imperium as there are Praelians. Against those sorts of odds, even for a species of purpose-built super-soldiers, total victory was never going to be possible.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:30 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Hey, Reverend Norv, been reading your app and like your history. You do have my approval and I'm alright with it, but I would like a minor change: perhaps make one of the wars between the Praelians and the Imperium a bit less lopsided? Perhaps you could add another conflict in which the Praelians attempted to overthrow the Imperium itself as an entity but failed due to supply issues/something else which caused them to abandon the expedition? Just to make it a bit less lopsided because so many military defeats would A) create the question as to why the Praelians did not go forth with outright conquest, B) would have shaken too much the domestic political situation, C) make my guys look completely incompetent which is something I would rather avoid (having my guys be able to score a victory once in a while would also make any interactions more interesting :p ).

Other than that minor issue, app looks great. :)


No worries. I'll add a third war since independence, in which the Republic overreached, was defeated, fell back to its own borders, and then managed to eke out a draw to preserve its own survival. I agree that such a conflict would make for a more interesting story. But the real reason why the Praelians never could have truly "won" is simply size: there are 4.8 trillion people in the Imperium, and only 90 billion in the Republic. In other words, there are fifty-three times as many people in the Imperium as there are Praelians. Against those sorts of odds, even for a species of purpose-built super-soldiers, total victory was never going to be possible.


Thanks for this. :)
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Union Princes
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:46 pm

I can only imagine how the Imperium feels when dealing with the Soldiers Without Borders.

All the ceremony and opulance of the Imperator contrasting with the bluntness and bravado of the Supreme Chancellor
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:51 pm

Union Princes wrote:I can only imagine how the Imperium feels when dealing with the Soldiers Without Borders.

All the ceremony and opulance of the Imperator contrasting with the bluntness and bravado of the Supreme Chancellor


A bit like how Byzantines would have felt when dealing with Westerners. :p

Thinking that between the Imperium, the Starborn, the Soldiers Without Borders, the Praelians, and the Dominion, humans are really the most populous and expansive race in the Galaxy. Aliens may be viewing humans as the young upstarts who expanded too much.
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"I’ve just bitten a snake. Never mind me, I’ve got business to look after."
- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:03 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Union Princes wrote:I can only imagine how the Imperium feels when dealing with the Soldiers Without Borders.

All the ceremony and opulance of the Imperator contrasting with the bluntness and bravado of the Supreme Chancellor


A bit like how Byzantines would have felt when dealing with Westerners. :p

Thinking that between the Imperium, the Starborn, the Soldiers Without Borders, the Praelians, and the Dominion, humans are really the most populous and expansive race in the Galaxy. Aliens may be viewing humans as the young upstarts who expanded too much.


I’m sure the darling xenos can learn the error of their ways through time and gentle chastisement.
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Postby Rovaqa » Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:24 pm

Theyra wrote:That would still be a precursor nation,


yes.

how would they be human if they evolved on another planet if that is what you are getting at,


my baseline lore is that Earth was also descended from the same civilization, which existed many millions of years ago and spread humans across the galaxy with autonomous generation/terraforming ships before dying out, having never achieved FTL. of course, this probably messes up other people's backstories, so I'm willing to rework this as much as possible to make it work.

and a precursor nation would not have little relevance to the story. They would a nation that has survived for thousands of years and is certainly advanced and powerful. Hard to ignore that.


except they wouldn't still exist, because continuing to exist is not a prerequisite of being a precursor nation.

perhaps I could alter my lore so that the country originated from a very early generation ship and then just gloss over how exactly civilization developed on that timescale.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:40 pm

Rovaqa wrote:
Theyra wrote:That would still be a precursor nation,


yes.

how would they be human if they evolved on another planet if that is what you are getting at,


my baseline lore is that Earth was also descended from the same civilization, which existed many millions of years ago and spread humans across the galaxy with autonomous generation/terraforming ships before dying out, having never achieved FTL. of course, this probably messes up other people's backstories, so I'm willing to rework this as much as possible to make it work.

and a precursor nation would not have little relevance to the story. They would a nation that has survived for thousands of years and is certainly advanced and powerful. Hard to ignore that.


except they wouldn't still exist, because continuing to exist is not a prerequisite of being a precursor nation.

perhaps I could alter my lore so that the country originated from a very early generation ship and then just gloss over how exactly civilization developed on that timescale.


Mmm. Perhaps a more acceptable origin for Theyra would be the abduction of ancient humans from Earth, who were then seeded on the planet of nascency of your civilization? That wouldn’t require any extant precursors, or indeed any overly advanced civilizations to interfere, merely someone old and collapsed.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:01 pm

Beutarch wrote:Snip


Accepted

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Snip


That is one thing that is missing, the Hattori species app is not done. You are missing Biology and Psionics. Otherwise, the app is good.

Rovaqa wrote:
Theyra wrote:That would still be a precursor nation,


yes.

how would they be human if they evolved on another planet if that is what you are getting at,


my baseline lore is that Earth was also descended from the same civilization, which existed many millions of years ago and spread humans across the galaxy with autonomous generation/terraforming ships before dying out, having never achieved FTL. of course, this probably messes up other people's backstories, so I'm willing to rework this as much as possible to make it work.

and a precursor nation would not have little relevance to the story. They would a nation that has survived for thousands of years and is certainly advanced and powerful. Hard to ignore that.


except they wouldn't still exist, because continuing to exist is not a prerequisite of being a precursor nation.

perhaps I could alter my lore so that the country originated from a very early generation ship and then just gloss over how exactly civilization developed on that timescale.


I suggest going with G-Tech's idea, and I will stop allowing human nations after this one and maybe one more since I do not want humans to be this prominent in the galaxy.
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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:16 pm

Theyra wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Snip

That is one thing that is missing, the Hattori species app is not done. You are missing Biology and Psionics. Otherwise, the app is good.

Thank you so much for letting me know, I thought I had finished that. Everything should be completed now.

Please let me know if I need to do anything else. : )
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:18 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:I'm all done with my application now.






Nation Name: Confederation of the Uesugi
Government type: Representative Oligarchy
Government Description:
The Executive and de facto leader of the Confederation is the President, as instructed by the Charter of the Confederation, which serves as the nation's constitution. His powers include being the commander in chief of all military forces and to sign or veto bills passed by Vicarius’s two houses into law. He is also the only person, by the charter, to have the authority to intervene and prevent execution, servitude, illegal acts or natural disasters. The President may also introduce policies towards the Legislative branch, which has the digression to either pass those bills or to reject them. This puts the president in the interesting position where he can propose legislation and accept his own bills into law.


Should the President be incapacitated or removed from office, it is the duty of the Vice President to execute the responsibilities of the President until such time as a special election is held. Besides this continuation of governance, the Vice President of the Confederation also manages the day to day activities of the Cabinet in the absence of the President. The President may be removed from office either by acting “unprofessional and misguiding in upholding the ideals of the Charter” or by “being in contempt of the common people of the Confederation and has lost the loyalty of the armed forces.” More often than not, the military tends to intervene in the executive procedures, frequently overthrowing presidents, instituting military juntas that are dissolved after a transition period to place in a new president with a fair mandate from the people via a freshly held election within the former leader’s term of office.

The Sacred Order of the Harvest Moon holds considerable sway in Confederation politics. Initially a subservient client state of the Confederation, one misunderstanding, one blown up asteroid, and a conflict spanning three entire Bakadatesu lifespans later (around 75 years) has formed these religious monks into a very militant order that now takes orders from the Uesugi. It acts as it's enforcers, being given the green light to pillage and exterminate entire worlds of "non-believers" while allowing Uesugi fleets captained by Isone nobility to pass through it's territories. The Uesugi Confederation see nothing but benefits to their co-operation with the Sacred Order, and so often goes out of it's way to keep them satisfied.

As a result of this sheer power, you might say the man-behind the scenes of Confederation foreign and domestic policies is a shadowy figure known only as the 'Sergeant-At-Arms'. He has strong-armed the government into allowing the Sacred Order it's own private armed forces, although he did concede the point to have a 3:1 minority of military strength in contrast to the Confederation Armed Forces. Although the Sacred Order may be permitted to run candidates for Vicarius and it's three internal legislative chambers, they rarely put up candidates for public office, instead preferring to operate 'behind the scenes'. The aforementioned 'Sergeant-At-Arms' can often circumvent all military, civilian and political authorities with digression to discuss matters directly with the President of the Confederation himself.

Capital: The Confederation holds two main capitals: Vicarius and Echigo.

Vicarius is the capital of the legislature, and quite literally is one of the largest buildings, with the entire planet being the legislature's assembly. Vicarius is sub-divided into three main sections, the Crust, Mantel and Core, with each representing different ideologies (although more often than not different wallet sizes). A total of 3 major political parties, each representing the different races, are present in varying degrees of legislative strength within all three sections. Each Solar system is granted an initial 13 representatives, then are allocated more based on the population of the planet. The Major corporations of the Confederation are also granted 74 representatives per major corporation, with an additional 20 being granted for each trillion yen brought into the Confederation's coffers. The Most powerful Isone families also hold hereditary seats within Vicarius, including enviable roles on the most important Congressional Committees such as Procurement of Labor and Grand Manufacturing.

Echigo is the capital of the executive branch of government, comprised of the Presidency and his local advisors, mostly an irregular band of close political allies with the occasional bureaucrat or politician thrown in, so as to not waste almost 40 years of brown nosing and climbing the ranks of government.


Population: 1,060,000,000,000
1.060 trillion
Size: 106 solar systems
Species:
  • Isone
  • Hattori
  • Testa Stullorum
  • Bakadatesu


Background: The destinies of the Teste start on an Aquatic world, lost to legends and only kept alive by a strong oral tradition, passed down from the generations. Centuries of mismanagement of their home-world's natural resources it is rumored to have led to a split. One faction stayed on-world, these, as the Books of Maa'ri and Noormo proclaim, were the 'forgotten ones'. These forgotten ones grew complacent in their homes, losing their evolutionary talents over the generations to be nothing more than shelled Tortoises. The other faction embarked on a massive quest, traveling around from planet to planet in search of the most habitable standards. The book of Noormo states that they landed on a 'land of glass and of sand, where nothing grew, and they claimed it as their own.' Over the next thousand years these "Isone" as they became known, were shriveled up reptilians that were the dryer and far more intelligent of their amphibian cousins. The Teste Stullorum were cursed to be 'complacent but stupid', or so the tales go.

One day, almost three thousand years ago, one Isone who is only named "Kaaba" stumbled across a massive population of a subserviently workforce then known as the "Baak", named such from the sounds they made, reminding Kaaba of screaming bugs he would consume on a daily basis in an over-indulgence of gluttony. Kaaba returned to his people and told them of the massive discovery he had made. The nearly trillion person population were soon subject to massive colonization of their home-world, their ancient gods and their own society crushed into dust. There were those that resisted, but were subjugated or were dealt with harshly. The "Baak" were captured and turned into a work-force for the Isone. The Isone quickly muscled their way into forming a nation-state, based off of slave labor.

The first three hundred years were rough on many. The Isone found themselves more than happy to sell such creatures to the Teste Stullorum, who would go onto construct vast palaces and were the creatures that had first colonized Vicarius and Echigo. As the Isone expanded, there was increased tension between the Teste Stullorum, who had around this time grown restless throughout their generations, and envious of their younger brother Isone's ruthlessness. They fought a bloody war that had no winners, simply millions of deceased warriors. Both were jaded towards exterminating each other with the fires of warfare, and so begrudgingly agreed to co-exist from one another. The needs of warfare nessciated industry, and industry came with the deaths of untold numbers of slave laborers. The Bakedaistai were the perfect laborers and fighters, being deployed en-mass in a massive war. As a result, the enslaved had become one of the most important cogs within the economies of both sides. An understanding was reached, promoting economic well-being over racial hatred of such cousins. Following the inconclusive Battle of Rantemario in 2500 ( 0 BBR) This cease-fire was broken by another species that had been willing to serve both-sides and were keen negotiators, the Hattori.

By 27 years after the Battle of Rantemario, the first 64 systems came together as the "Confederation of the Uesugi", a government based off of democratic ideals while emphasizing the keen role of slavery within society, tying both interchangeably and forever into each other. For to have society in the Confederation, one must have slavery. That is the guiding principals of government (and of the millions of profits that Isone led companies were happy to promote).


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Economic Info
Economic Ideology: Factory economy
Economy:
The Uesugi hold a rather large egg in a (at least for the time being) shakily decent basket. That egg being the trading of Bakedatesu slaves either unofficially in ship to ship meetings between fellow Isone slavers or officaly with large convoys of enslaved Bakedaistai moving through Confederation Space under armed guard to different planets.

These slaves are put to work on countless worlds, with entire planets swarmed with tens of millions of beings and being stripped bare of their mineral wealth to be transported to more industrial worlds. These industrial worlds churn out millions of various products ranging from consumer goods to be enjoyed by the wealthiest (The poorest citizens are added almost as an afterthought, with a very shoddily and sub-par consumer goods industry only puffing along even at the economy's strongest points), which are then shipped off and sold to the general public at large with a barrage of advertising and massive corporations. Such corporations enjoy close ties with the government, and their internal board-rooms are basically an Isone only affair, with only Hattori working on the lower levels of management in order to ensure calculations for next solar year aren't off.

Manufacturing:
The Manufacturing Sector of the Uesugi Confederation is mostly controlled by business juggernauts, more occupied in getting all sorts of products out to the general masses (that is, anyone who isn't a slave or is in the need for slave labor) Apart from high-paying jobs in the armed forces, the only real civilian sector employment for the 'general masses who aren't enslaved' you see are in the Transportation/Shipping and finer manufacturing jobs that require vast technological prowess/fine motor skills that is needed immediately rather than within a few orbits around the local star. Time is money, after all.



Agriculture:
If there is an achille's heel to the Confederation, it is our agricultural prowess, or lack there-of.
In spite of having several systems dedicated to the system of growing food, this system is rife with corruption. By far the most important role is to ensure fair harvests so as to feed the billions of beings throughout the Confederation. In order to accomplish this, large slave labor forces are transplanted to these bread-basket worlds in order to assist when harvests are ripe and bellies of the rich politicians hunger for wheat and fresh fruit. However, several disadvantages, such as the infrequent usage of pesticides and the invasiveness of certain species such as the Gumb-lao cricket lead to many of these harvests coming up short.

Chronic lack of innovation within the Farming industry also plays a major role, with agricultural representatives within the "Wheat Circle" of important farming worlds banding together in order to keep the status-quo. These ultraconservatives enjoy protection from the Sacred Order of the Harvest Moon, and, there-fore, are untouchable. Although profits are at an all-time high and farming outputs are skyrocketing, very few of that reaches your average, slim Bakedaistai, simply the bare minimum in order to keep them alive until they are no longer needed or a major project is finished.

Military Info
Military Population:(no more the 3% of your population) 28,620,000,000
Branches:

Confederation Army
The Confederation Army are the land based forces of the Confederation of the Uesugi, and a good number of their tactics boil down to getting far more men (Bakedatesu slave soldiers) onto the field so as to overwhelm the enemy with massed numbers. While casualties in the millions often provokes outrage by the Isone slavers who had provided the soldiers, these tactics have proven effective in conquering sparsely populated worlds. Often you see small supporting equipment such as Spider Tanks which can traverse cliff sides and attach themselves to provide medium-range artillery support for massed infantry assaults.

With most things in the Army, they are built to be as expendable as the rest of their main ground attack infantry. Their Spider Tanks have been prone to breaking down and so are often just left abandoned, relics of large scale battles lost to time.


Confederation Navy

The Confederation Navy is the space-based military forces of the Uesugi. They are tasked with defending both the shipping lanes, the nation in times of total war, and enforcing the laws (and by-laws) of the Confederation in the confines of outer space, and throughout it's many systems. Although it has also been tasked with eliminating piracy, apart from a few well-meaning officers, these pirates are often allowed to leech off of Confederation merchants and Isone slave traders alike, all in exchange for a small "license of privateering", which is renewed every rotation of the smallest planet around the star in a given solar system.
Isone captains would sooner sell out their own countrymen than have to engage in unfavorable odds in battle, and will either retreat and have lesser officers (who often acted correctly in the situation) get the blame, court-martial and summary execution for 'failing their utmost'.

Standard infantry:
The standard infantry of the Confederation Army are the Bakedaistai, herded into massed formations and prodded into advancing against enemy positions. Such a massive wave of "soldiers" if you can even call the Bakedaistai that, are expected to crash like waves of the ocean against the most fortified enemy positions.

There is also the Teste Stullorum Armored Infantry, called such because of the species natural shell, a fact of evolution to defend itself against predators of generations past.


Standard weapons:
The Standard weapon of the Teste Stullorum is the Naginata Carbine. A far bulkier and more put-together weapon, it still holds defects and issues within, such as being ill-tempered to fire properly on humid, hot worlds, forcing Teste Stullorum soldiers to shoulder with them the uncomfortable Katana Rifle when dealing with enemy threats. These weapons also double as close-combat devices, which prove handy in bloody "soldier-on-soldier" engagements where the added muscle mass and height reach of the Teste Stullorum will be enough to overpower an enemy in melee combat.

The Bakedaistai foot-slave-soldier might be equipped with a mass-produced, crude dagger should something happen to their standard issue Yari Rifle, sometimes called the Yari-Spear-Gun by the Bakedaistai themselves when familiarizing themselves with it right before they are thrust unprepared in the millions into combat.

Grenades and other small explosives are also utilized by Teste Stullorum, though it is a standard military policy to not hand out explosives to the Bakedaistai, as sheer numerical superiority will make up for technological inferiority or primitiveness on the battlefield.


Standard ship:
The Navy of the Confederation is comprised of patrol craft, frigates, carriers, battleships
The standard ship of the Confederation is the Malevolent Frigate, designed to engage similar enemy-type ships and overwhelm them with sheer numbers. While ships are equipped with the bare minimum in terms of life-support systems, shielding and propulsion, these are not much in a head to head engagement. Confederation ships are designed to be produced cheaply and often are of poor quality. Sustained enemy fire will be enough to overwhelm shielding, leaving a very thin durasteel armored coating to protect the squishy Teste Stullorum and Bakedaistai crew from enemy fire. Confederation naval doctrine is similar to it's land-based counterparts, with an emphasis on overwhelming firepower and sheer number of ships on the battlefield to overwhelm any enemy force it might encounter.

Confederation fighters are cheaply made with the most readily available materials (often unshielded), with little thought given to replacement parts should a fighter come back to it's carrier damaged. Although promotion based off of merit rather than patronage is more prevalent with the implementation of the "Ace Rewards System", The Confederation still relies heavily on massed numbers of fighters, and rarely is attention paid by the general population of what brave actions Confederation fighter pilots do when engaged with enemy pirates.


Ship weapons: The main weapons of Confederation warships are laser cannons, missile launchers and mass drivers.


Name: Isone
Appearance:
Height/Weight: Generally of average height of 6 feet, and most depiections within Uesugi media portrays such individuals as rather thin, a steryotype that mostly mains true, their weights are generally healthy at around 200 pounds.
Lifespan: 110 to 120 years
Culture: An outright snobbish, arrogant and uptight people, the Isone are known for their cold-heartedness and lack of care for their massive amounts of slaves. To be an Isone is to be steryotyped as a 'black hole where your morals should be' slave trader who only wants a fatter pay-check whenever their shipments are dropped off. Although this holds truth, to an Isone, me and you are simply 'buisness-partners that don't know each other' and can smooth-talk into having you buy almost anything from them, even if it is your own watch he just so happened to 'acquire' when you bumped into each other. The Isone's strengths lend into their muscling into the political arena, with many governors, members of Congress and multiple former Presidents of the Confederation being Isone. Their grip on politics within the Confederation is tight, and they have ensured that their sons and grandsons get cushy jobs sitting behind the desk as one of many "Grand-Admirals" collecting paychecks smoothly from the unassuming Hattori accountants and others that comprise the beauracracy of the Confederation.
Biology: Being blessed in having just got off the same bus just one stop before the Teste Stullorum, the Isone are rather thin looking individuals that hold the distinction of picking up some nasty habits from their great-great-great distant ancestors, in that they cannot pass up consuming flies for a snack or outright meal.
Psionics: (Are they psi capable or not)
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Name: Hattori
Appearance:
Height/Weight: Although the generally measure out to around 15 feet, around 7 and a half of their height is dedicated to their lengthy neck which reaches akin to a giraffe. In contrast, these beings are often fairly skinny, clocking in almost always at 150 pounds.
Lifespan: 230 years
Culture: The Hattori are known for their intellectual prowess, with harsh expectations raised upon their children to be as learned and as "know-it-all" as their fathers and grandfathers. As a result, on first contact, a sense of arrogance might come off from a fellow Hattori. These beings have utilized these skills to enter into the scientific and diplomatic fields of the Confederation, being renowned for their negotiating prowess and generally cool heads in times of war. However, for a significant majority of this species, warfare is an abhorrent concept, generally regarded as a means of last resort, and so will attempt negotiations to prevent such an out-come. Their passiveness to military action must not be constructed as a labeling of them as the 'peace species' as one who thinks that would end up on the wrong side of the Confederation Navy barrage. The Hattori, while not taking front-line roles, are generally suited for communications and logistical roles in the military. They preform these roles adequately and play an important role in keeping the Confederation Military well equipped for warfare should the need arise.
Biology: Resembling giraffes and nicknamed the "Tall ones" from their height, their eyes are two black mirrors complete with a small spout for their nasal passages and mouth to speak and breath out of. Brains are generally more dense in contrast to all other species within the Uesugi Confederation, and their brains often provide at least 15 pounds of their average weight of 150. This has also required strong necks to support the weight in their brains, and their lengthy neck are their most venerable aspects of them. Not suited for manual labor, and often recoil at the very idea of working using their bodies.
Psionics: Very rudimentary abilities are capable from all, such as levitating small objects. Although there is the capability of more seasoned members to lift heavy boulders small distances, such powers require large amounts of skill on behalf of the user to do, and so are rarely accomplished.
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Name: Teste Stullorum
Appearance:
Height/Weight: Generally, the average Teste sits at 7 feet tall and usually weighs somewhere between 300 to 400 pounds
Lifespan: Being descended from turtles and being biologically built to be as tough as a tank, the Teste Stullorum generally sees lifespans of around two Millennium, with some of the most extereme circumstances finding Teste Stullorum who have lived over nine thousand years, although these claims are somewhat difficult to independently verify their veracity.
Culture: Often the "Heavy foot-soldiers" of the Confederation, they are utilized as "dumb blunt hammers" against enemy lines once they have been exhausted by mass assaults by the mass slave infantry of the Bakadatesu.
Biology: Reptilian in features, the Teste Stullorum more resemble Turtles than they do lizards or snakes. Accordingly, it is a near universal fact that these creatures have massive, thick shells on the back of them. Although this is rumored to be tough enough to prevent enemy laser fire, in reality it can only be a punching bag for so long before it cracks and shatters, breaking whatever cover the Teste foot soldier had in combat.
Psionics: No
Other Info:


Name: Bakadatesu/Bakedaistai (both used interchangably, generally translates to 'stupid thin ones' and 'stupid thin person')
Appearance:
Height/Weight: By far the shortest and lightest of all the species in the Confederation, these frail and thin beings scarecly weigh any-more than 100 pounds, and thanks to massive genetic modification, they have been shriviled over the generations to stand at 5 feet to a hair above 6 feet.
Lifespan:

"To be born a Bakadatesu, is to be born into the lowest ring of Uesugi society, yet be one of the most valuable resources of the entire galaxy"
-attributed to Hanjab Bakku Jafar, famous Isone slave trader.


Expected to work until death, the Bakadatesu are a very expendable race, often utilized in the hundreds of thousands, even millions to conquer entire planets, hoping to overwhelm their enemies through sheer numbers alone. Their tactics are rather crude, yet effective. These same species hold no rights outside of a few privlledged handfuls attached to powerful figures in the military and government. As a result of the reckless concern for their livelihood as the "expendable race", if you were born a Bakadatesu and conscripted into the military, you would get to see your 25th birthday. If you were to toil in the mines or be stuck constructing the vast fleets of the Confederation, you might prolong your suffering enough to make it to 30. If you are the special few which are pampered and loved by the military and government officials that you serve, you'd make it to retirement age at 55.

Unfortunately, it depends on where in the Confederation you are to serve and what duties you are to serve with. However, the general expectation is to have a short and absolutely miserable existence while serving your Isone, and to a lesser extent, Teste Stullorum masters.
Culture: The Bakadatesu see subservience as their "just and natural order" and so do not question when one sees another be whipped brutally. They see themselves as a massive force, comparing their vast numbers to the good they do whenever they are crated off to be sold to different owners of faceless Isone Planetary Governors.
Biology: A very fragile species on first glance, one might expect it to crumble at the daintiest of touches. Yet, this is a little farther from the truth of the matter. These bipedal creatures possess three-digited hands, perfect for holding the mass produced tools and weapons the Confederation requires of them. Their brains are rather soft and squishy, and so require some form of...'protection' in the form of a very thin Nickle-iron skull. It'll prevent you from cracking open like an egg whenever you trip down one of the dark, dark holes in the Quaas Asteroid belt, but I'm afraid that's the best it gets. For any moderately accelerated projectile can penetrate the skull and kill a Bakadatesu.

While one might assume their hunching over when charging en-mass into battle is to prevent covering fire or friendly fire from passing over their heads, being at 5 feet often poses no threats to the aim of the more elite Teste Stullorum troops whenever present on the battlefield. Instead ,it is the weight of the very heavy 75 pound, 6 feet long Yari-Spear gun these troops awkwardly shoot en-mass blindly. The weight of their weapon is enough to drag them down and slow them, with only lady luck providing the needed trigger restraint in managing to get a laser shot off at their enemies. When there are tens of thousands of laser shots going off, there is the hope that some of those will get through, and taken with the massed forces of the Uesugi Army, some is a good enough tactic for them. However, in spite of this, their stamina is known for being rather good, although with no direction on the battlefield, it simply leads to a case of rapid encirclement by enemy forces and the annihilation of thousands (much to the chagrin of their Isone masters).
Psionics: No
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Postby Theyra » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:26 pm

So I will be allowing one or two more human nations, then it is it.

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Postby The Serketist Federation » Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:04 pm

Theyra wrote:
The Serketist Federation wrote:Just checking--I was rejected right?

Actually, I somehow missed your app.

The Serketist Federation wrote:Nation Name: The Serketist Federation
Government type: Theocratic Monarchy with some power to elected repersentives
Government Description: Lead by the archpriestess, with most power consolidated in the church residing in the capital city
Capital: Kanadanall Antair
Population: (No greater than 5 Trillion) 735 million
Size: (How many solar systems are under its control, 200 max) borders not clearly defined, though they overall only control 7-15 systems with power drifting off by distance.
Species: human
Background:(Min two paragraphs)
A radical religous group, referred to as a cult by some, in service of a goddess of insects. They believe that their god manifests through giant insectile beasts that were found on a remote planet and became an invasive species across the human empire.

They were prosecuted on earth, and eventually commisioned several sleeper ships for almost 250 million people. They set out for a jungle planet beyond humanitiy's borders. When they got there they dubbed it Andaskolisk, and landed on the eastern continent, in the future site of their capital.

Their insectile beasts took well to the terrain, and the populations of both humans and insects grew. The church consolidated power and became a state covering several star systems, though they do not have the power to mass-produce spacecraft.
Economic Info
Economic Ideology: socialist
Economy:(How good is it) poor, though most citizens live well due to a strong welfare state
Manufacturing:(how good is it) very poor
Agriculture:(how good is it) medium and growing

Military Info
Military Population:(no more the 3% of your population) 0.5%
Branches: navy, army, space navy
Standard infantry: Please clarify
Standard weapons: middle class laser rifles
Standard ship: SE2 "Dominion" A battleship with landing pods
Ship weapons: underdeveloped torpedos and missiles.


Okay, so how about some more meat to the background and you are going to have to explain how a giant insect spread throughout of all human space. Since it sounds like might be hard to due to the insect's size. For the standard infantry, just list what would be their standard soldier. Like, it is a shocktrooper, guardsman, marine, or army trooper. That help?

Edited to your suggestions. Let's hope I can get in as the last human nation.

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Reverend Norv wrote:I'd like to second this - I think that a certain amount of genuine ambiguity as to which planet is really humanity's homeworld is very interesting. There are all kinds of mind-bending sci-fi ways to justify it, which could provide a central plotline for the various human and human-derived civilizations. Plus, Plzen is a great player and I want to see where he goes with this concept.

I've slightly modified my history to make possible that this is the alternate Earth and not the original one, and also used that same mind-bending sci-fi shenigan to save myself the trouble of having to write all eight centuries of history. :p

Also, yes, I'm aware that radiation don't cause people to mutate into strange animalistic creatures like it does in Hollywood or in video games, but it's cool so I included it.

The Provisional Authority of the United Nations

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"The master of a ship at sea, on receiving a signal from any source that a ship or aircraft or survival craft thereof is in distress, is bound to proceed with all speed to the assistance of the persons in distress informing them if possible that he is doing so. If he is unable or, in the special circumstances of the case, considers it unreasonable or unnecessary to proceed to their assistance, he must enter in the logbook the reason for failing to proceed to the assistance of the persons in distress."
- Chapter V Regulation 10(a),
International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea (1974)


Basic Information

Government Type: Confederation

Government Description: The Provisional Authority is an organisation that relies on the symbols and regalia of the pre-Anomaly United Nations for the purposes of building legitimacy and inspiring hope in humanity's future. Much like the pre-Anomaly System it claims to be a successor of, the Provisional Authority is primarily a forum for the mediation of disputes between various self-governing polities within its jurisdiction rather than a centralised administrative apparatus of its own, but unlike the original United Nations the Provisional Authority is very much a state, with the requisite monopoly on violence to forcibly enforce the results of its mediation on its member polities. The Provisional Authority contains four courts of dispute resolution, each with a specific jurisdiction: the General Assembly for points of order and for the expression of non-binding sentiments, the Security Council for matters of internal stability, the Economic and Social Council for matters of commerce and cultural exchange, and the Trusteeship Council for the management of Spacer-Terran relations. Overseeing the administration of this broader organisation is the Secretariat and handling matters of textual interpretation as well as the incarceration of dangerous individuals is the International Court of Justice.

Each "inhabited system", a designation that includes Sol and the eleven inhabited colony systems recognised by the Provisional Authority, is entitled to appoint their own members to four of the Provisional Authority's six principle organs and the method of appointment is up to the inhabited systems themselves, ranging from democratic elections to simple appointment by the local notables. Votes in the General Assembly are weighted equally with one vote per inhabited system, except for Alpha Mensae where the Russian-speaking bases of Khrabrost-Cidadela are entitled to their own vote, separate from that of the non-Russian bases, for 13 votes total and 7 for a majority. Votes in the Security Council are weighted by each system's military contribution to the Department of Peace Operations and votes in the Economic and Social Council are weighted by their financial contributions to the general budget, which in practice means that both of these organs are rubber-stamp institutions for Sol's will, as Sol contributes over half the security equipment and personnel as well as over 90% of the general budget used by the Provisional Authority. Votes in the Trusteeship Council are weighted by spacefaring population, where Sol also holds a plurality but not one strong enough that they alone can outvote a determined coalition of the other systems. The officers of the Secretariat and the judges of the International Court of Justice are then indirectly elected through the General Assembly.

While the Provisional Authority claims to be an egalitarian state where all humans enjoy equal rights, in practice known space is dominated by the "Spacers" - the people who live away from Earth - with the "Terrans" being an underclass with essentially no relevance to the broader economy and society of known space and holding only the barest pretence of political representation, with one non-voting observer in the Trusteeship Council representing the people of Earth. The two operating outposts placed within what used to be the territory of the side that lost the Dagrenning Conflict have no permanent residents, only outpost bases with a rotating crew of military and scientific personnel sent from the inhabited systems, and as such have no independent political representation.

Notably, despite being very liberal-leaning in other ways, there is no expectation of privacy anywhere within known space. After the horrors of the Dagrenning Conflict, when it was made blatantly clear just how vulnerable the fragile life-support systems of space habitats are to the actions of even half-competent terrorists, United Nations law is that all human beings within its jurisdiction must be recorded both visually with a camera and auditorally with a microphone at all times, and that this footage is to be made publicly available for every other person in their system and to the governing authorities of all the other inhabited systems. While this is impossible to enforce on Earth, since the authority of the Provisional Authority runs lightly through Terrans, among Spacers this is taken quite seriously and enforced with great enthusiasm to the point that by the 28th Century, Spacer culture came to see a desire to keep secrets as a kind of mental defect.

Capital: Nominally, the Provisional Authority claims to be the legitimate successor to the United Nations and has its de-jure capital in Geneva, Earth; New York City, where the original headquarters of the United Nations used to stand, has been so utterly destroyed that it was not fit to serve as even a symbolic capital. In practice, all six of its principle organs are "temporarily headquartered" in Tsiolkovsky Base, Callisto.

Population: The Spacer population under the jurisdiction of the Provisional Authority is 8.22 millions. The Terran population on Earth is debated.

Earth is so poorly governed and socially disconnected that conducting an actual census for a precise population is impossible and estimates of its population range from a low bound of 11 or 12 million to a high bound of almost 150 million, with the debate hinging on the question of whether the identified signs of human activity on the surface represent all or almost all of them, or whether there instead exists a large survivor population huddling in underground or underwater shelters. The official stance of the United Nations Population Division is that it doesn't count people that don't produce observable evidence of their existence, reporting the Terran population at about 12 million and thus the total human population in known space at about 20 million.

Size: While the Provisional Authority claims jurisdiction over all of "known space", defined as a sphere twelve parsecs in radius with Sol at its centre, in practice it only has authority where there are human beings to have authority over. This includes a total of 14 star systems, including the Sol System, plus eleven "inhabited colony systems" - Deepcastle (41 Arae), Magan (107 Piscium), Central (Alpha Centauri), Khrabrost-Cidadela (Alpha Mensae), Mandira (Beta Canum Venaticorum), Freeland (BD-05°1844), Weltgeist (Delta Pavonis), Jeongsang (Epsilon Indi), Le Coeur (Gamma Leporis), Ard al-Falah (Sigma Draconis), and Tiangong (Zeta Tucanae), plus the Peacekeepers' two "operating outposts" - Pacification Mission Alpha (Wolf 359) and Pacification Mission Beta (GJ 1057).

Species: The Spacer population is human. Whether the Terran population, with the extensive mutations from radiation and the even more extensive gene-mods they needed to survive on Earth, still count as "human" is debated.

Background: By far the most memorable historical event in the history of known space, the event that continues to define the society and politics of the Provisional Authority, is the Anomaly of 2428/2608.

The longstanding hopes of science fiction authors were realised when the invention of the Chang-Jørgensen Drive in 2192 enabled faster-than-light travel for the first time. Its refinement and development over the next century brought the nearby stars into reach, prompting a race for the commercialisation and militarisation of space in Sol and a prestige-driven race for the colonisation of other planets in other star systems. While there was no practical reason to colonise planets instead of sticking to easier to reach and more easily exploited asteroids and comets, as even this furious search failed to turn up a human-habitable or even close to human-habitable planet, manned missions to other star systems usually had more to do with national prestige or scientific curiosity than actual economic or military value and settling other planets - other 'worlds' - were enormous boons to both. It is during this time, over the 23rd and 24th Centuries, that the twelve planets that are now the contituent members of the Provisional Authority were settled.

Then, on the 15th of September 2428, the Anomaly happened. What exactly caused the Anomaly is unknown, with vigorous debate between the 'previously unknown natural phenomena' camp and the 'scientific experiment gone badly wrong' camp lasting to this day. What happened in the Anomaly, however, is very well known indeed: Earth suddenly aged over a century from one moment to the next, the familiar Earth of September 2428 spontaneously being replaced with a strangely-coloured and fiendishly radioactive mudball that would only later be identified as the Earth of February, 2608.

Nearly 90 million people were put into space over the previous two and a half centuries of space exploration and colonisation, but this small population did not constitute anything like a self-sufficient civilisation. Suddenly cut off from vital supplies from Earth, the isolated habitats and outposts scattered across known space had to improvise and adapt to a reality where all of their equipment, the same equipment that was keeping them alive in the hostile void of space, was completely irreplaceable. All but the largest, best-prepared, and luckiest habitats failed the challenge, leaving millions of desiccated corpses cooling across the vastness of known space.

The survivors were then culled further as the various military missions in space, without even the meagre laboratory and workshop equipment that the scientific, mining, and colonisation missions had and lacking in the engineering expertise required to make do without supplies, eventually turned to banditry to seize the equipment that they needed to survive, culminating in nearly six years of strife between the military and civilian missions in space called the Dagrenning Conflict. The coalition of scientific missions eventually emerged triumphant on the basis of their superior ability to adapt to a universe without supplies from Earth. On the 5th of July 2617 Terran time - or 28th January 2438 Spacer time - the 5th Constellation of the United States Space Force was left shattered in the asteroid belt around Wolf 359. While the remnants of the world's militaries would continue to haunt known space for some years to come, this destruction of the last well-organised enemy force was then and still is considered the end of the Dagrenning Conflict.

It is in the aftermath of this brutal conflict, coming right at the heels of the Anomaly, that the remaining survivors realised the desperate need for cooperation and organisation, with representatives of all the major surviving habitats meeting in what was then the largest Spacer population centre, the New Cascadia colony on Mars, to work out a framework for collective security and governance for their future. The series of agreements signed at that conference formed the basis for the Provisional Authority of the United Nations, to provide a bare-bones system of dispute resolution until humanity recovers enough to reconstitute more formal governments once again.

While the Provisional Authority is not without its problems - the inhabited colony systems often complain bitterly that Sol dominates the organisation too much and not even two centuries of peace was enough to settle the endless ideological squabbling between the Russian-speaking and Portuguese-speaking habitats of Khrabrost-Cidadela - most humans across known space will grudgingly admit that it was very successful in its purpose, which was to keep the peace among human habitats and organise the scientific and industrial effort needed to transition the Spacers from a society that was one engineering problem away from mass death to a society that was both resilient and self-sufficient.

Nonetheless, it was over half a century before the surviving habitats in space could muster up the necessary resources to send more than just probes down to the surface of their destroyed homeworld. Efforts to discover just what had happened to Earth, however, was met with at best mixed successes. People across known space were shocked to find that isotope-dating famous landmarks on Earth consistently yielded results that were almost two centuries too old, eventually concluding that some 179 and a half years had passed on Earth during the Anomaly, even though the Anomaly was instant when viewed from space. The question of what exactly happened to Earth during those intervening years would also go largely unanswered, with the initial theories of global thermonuclear war destroying human civilisation being disproven by the sheer toxicity of the world's oceans - definitely not the result of nuclear weapons - and the measurements that Earth's surface was growing more, not less, radioactive with each passing year. While contact was eventually made with survivors on Earth - who, alas, lacked any meaningful records but did reveal through their myths and legends that whatever happened was gradual rather than sudden - the sheer difficulty of dealing with the chemical toxicity and the radioactivity of this new Earth as well as the threat posed by the various gangs of heavily-mutated posthumans continue to styme the Provisional Authority's efforts to establish a proper administration over the planet.

All considered, though, two centuries after the Anomaly, things are going well. Spacer civilisation stands resilient and prosperous, with the population on a slow upwards trend once more. But the date is now the 1st of January 2800 Terran time - or, as some conservative habitats across known space still insist on counting, 27th of July 2620 Spacer time - and the habitats of known space are about to receive some shocking surprises of the outside-context flavour...

Economic Info

Economic Ideology: While the Provisional Authority is not ideologically committed to any economic system, nor are any of its constituent systems, most of known space runs a mercantilist command economy simply because of necessity. The economy of the inhabited colony systems are still too small and too fragile to host a dynamic and innovative market economy, so things are only produced as necessary and what little trade exists mostly consists of mining outposts trading resources for manufactured goods from more industrial habitats. In Sol, however, where some 40% of the Spacer population resides, there is some degree of specialisation and a private economy of considerable size as demand has grown large enough to start taking advantage of the economies of scale offered by mass production.

Economy: Most of known space still has very little in the way of commerce, and a command economy is not receptive to economic innovations. It is only in the Sol system that one can find a capitalist economy with a significant degree of monetisation and a private economy large enough to be worth mentioning.

Manufacturing: The Anomaly and the Dagrenning Conflict was a survival challenge of almost unimaginable difficulty, and anyone who did survive came out the other end with a near-mastery of automated robotics, logistics management, and on-demand manufacturing. While the economy of known space has moved beyond a mere survival management economy in the two and a half centuries since the Anomaly, the Provisional Authority carries this legacy and the accumulated decades of experience forwards. Spacer society was, and is, a society of machine-shop geniuses.

Agriculture: Earth was the only human-inhabitable planet in all of known space, and since the Anomaly Earth is no more. The United Nations only has as much arable land as it physically builds with great effort and at great expense; consequently the supply of nutrition in known space is always tight and not easily expanded.

Military Info

Military Population: The Department of Peace Operations maintains some 6,000 staff, but the vast majority of this staff works in non-combat roles and only about 1,000 or 1,200 staff is qualified to pilot a patrol vessel or carry a rifle.

Branches: The Provisional Authority of the United Nations is not aware of any external military threats and does not maintain a formal military. The only armed forces under its control is the Department of Peace Operations, more commonly known as the Peacekeepers, which serves in an internal security and sovereignty enforcement role.

Standard Infantry: The standard rifle of the Department of Peace Operations, carried by its security officers, is the Karlsruhe-41 electric rifle, which is a battery-powered gauss rifle with selectable semi-automatic and automatic fire modes.

Standard Weapons: The Department of Peace Operations does not maintain any ground, naval, or air forces aside from its security officers carrying infantry rifles.

Standard Ship: The Department of Peace Operations maintains some 20 deep space patrol vessels, with enough variation in models that it is difficult to say which is 'standard'. The Department relies on pervasive surveillance to keep the peace, so the primary purpose of these vessels is to prevent any unpleasant surprises from emerging out of the wreckages of habitats that didn't survive or ships destroyed in the Dagrenning Conflict, with a secondary purpose of re-exploring known space to find if there are any other surviving human populations out there.

Ship Weapons: The deep space patrol vessels of the Department of Peace Operations are armed with a suite of kinetic and missile weaponry.

edit: application edited a bit; I pushed my timeline back about 50 years or so to make room for some [SPOILERS] that I want to explore
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:32 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:
No worries. I'll add a third war since independence, in which the Republic overreached, was defeated, fell back to its own borders, and then managed to eke out a draw to preserve its own survival. I agree that such a conflict would make for a more interesting story. But the real reason why the Praelians never could have truly "won" is simply size: there are 4.8 trillion people in the Imperium, and only 90 billion in the Republic. In other words, there are fifty-three times as many people in the Imperium as there are Praelians. Against those sorts of odds, even for a species of purpose-built super-soldiers, total victory was never going to be possible.


Thanks for this. :)


Addressed that concern in the latest update, and finished the economy section. Only military to go.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:26 am

So, Norv, any commentary on my application? On the general outline, since the specific details are something I'll be working out in the IC. You know how much I value your experience. :)

Really hope the OP doesn't turn down this alternate Earth out of hand.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:05 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:So, Norv, any commentary on my application? On the general outline, since the specific details are something I'll be working out in the IC. You know how much I value your experience. :)

Really hope the OP doesn't turn down this alternate Earth out of hand.


My only comment is to bless your cotton socks for pulling in Civ:BE references
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G-Tech Corporation wrote:My only comment is to bless your cotton socks for pulling in Civ:BE references

The planet names? Yes, yes they are~

I took notes from three different games together into this; two video games and a tabletop, because the professionals who design those things have more creativity than I do. ;p
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:40 am

From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), A) there are two Earths, B) the UN has not met the other human nations?

I wonder what their reaction will be when they find out there is a human empire that worships Satan. :p
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:46 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), A) there are two Earths, B) the UN has not met the other human nations?

I wonder what their reaction will be when they find out there is a human empire that worships Satan. :p

Both of those things are correct.

The Provisional Authority has an Earth. Is it the Earth? Is it really the same planet that existed before the Anomaly? What exactly happened to the place during the Anomaly anyways?

All unanswered questions that will only grow more pressing when people find out that there's another Earth out there.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:48 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), A) there are two Earths, B) the UN has not met the other human nations?

I wonder what their reaction will be when they find out there is a human empire that worships Satan. :p

Both of those things are correct.

The Provisional Authority has an Earth. Is it the Earth? Is it really the same planet that existed before the Anomaly? What exactly happened to the place during the Anomaly anyways?

All unanswered questions that will only grow more pressing when people find out that there's another Earth out there.


I personally blame Satan. Eternal crusade on behalf of mankind you say?
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:56 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Both of those things are correct.

The Provisional Authority has an Earth. Is it the Earth? Is it really the same planet that existed before the Anomaly? What exactly happened to the place during the Anomaly anyways?

All unanswered questions that will only grow more pressing when people find out that there's another Earth out there.


I personally blame Satan. Eternal crusade on behalf of mankind you say?


Heretics get sacrificed, so better watch yourself before accusing our Lord Lucifer. :twisted: :twisted:
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My application is complete. Now to read up on what other folks have been up to.
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Reverend Norv wrote:My application is complete. Now to read up on what other folks have been up to.


Interesting naval strategy. Not what I expected from a civilization that struggles to maintain a populace, but thoroughly commensurate with a militarized near-fanatical ideology of career soldiers. Definitely a curious juxtaposition there.
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Postby Rovaqa » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:16 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I personally blame Satan. Eternal crusade on behalf of mankind you say?


Heretics get sacrificed, so better watch yourself before accusing our Lord Lucifer. :twisted: :twisted:


uh... about that... the imperium may have some uh... problems with my country
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:21 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Reverend Norv wrote:My application is complete. Now to read up on what other folks have been up to.


Interesting naval strategy. Not what I expected from a civilization that struggles to maintain a populace, but thoroughly commensurate with a militarized near-fanatical ideology of career soldiers. Definitely a curious juxtaposition there.


It also reflects the experience of fighting the Imperium, which is simply so much larger that it is guaranteed to eventually win a conventional naval war. The Republic needs an edge, some way of neutralizing the effect of fighting an enemy with so many more ships carrying so many more guns. So it does what underdogs have always done: get in close where the big guns can't be brought to bear, grab the enemy by the belt buckle, and rely on superior reflexes and training and morale rather than superior numbers or firepower. That strategy imposes a heavy cost in lives, but ultimately not so heavy as the cost of trying to fight from standoff range against an enemy with 50 times your population and 50 times your industrial base.
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