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[PASSED] Repeal "Protection of Sexual Assault Victims"

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:38 pm

Target. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=524290
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The World Assembly,

Observing that, due to the word "strictly" in section 1(a), the immunities against punishment given to reporters of sexual assault are extremely narrow,

Believing that sexual assault reporters should not be punished for making such reports against marital partners, police officers, or persons in positions of power,

Concerned that reports would be chilled by the lack of such immunity and that such chilling would be a severe disservice for justice, and

Hopeful that the appropriate actors will soon advance legislation resolving flaws while integrating the necessary safeguards in a single cohesive resolution, hereby:

Repeals GA 632 "Protection of Sexual Assault Victims".
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:40 pm

OOC. We need to repeal bad policy. It ought to be repealed quickly. The first interpretation of the proposal was barely permissible from a policy perspective; apparently the author would rather interpret their resolution to do nothing and inundate the Assembly in assorted band-aids – which likely will themselves contain issues given their accelerated timeline – than actually fix the source of the problem.
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Postby Heidgaudr » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:49 pm

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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:51 pm

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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:57 pm

Support. I would, however, further appreciate it if you made clear that your concern is with the fact that nobody may be punished "strictly" for filing an accusation of sexual assault, therefore allowing for them to be punished for filing an accusation of SA against a person in a particular group (since it will no longer be strictly for filing, but for filing against a member of that group).
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Postby Simone Republic » Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:28 am

Support. But Jedinsto really should get a replacement ready (I mentioned that on Discord already)

Better to reboot and restart than to band-aid this, given the mechanics of WA resolutions.
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Postby Jedinsto » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:41 am

ATP I’ll just drop the legality challenge and get a replacement ready. Support.

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Postby Princess Rainbow Sparkles » Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:28 pm

Full Support, and the princess will propose her own civil rights-based replacement if another effort is made to perversely classify protections of sexual assault victims as restrictions on abuser rights.

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Postby Uan aa Boa » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:16 pm

At best the target was such a minimal contribution to the problem of under-reporting of sexual offences. It doesn't begin to approach the actual challenges faced by victims in IRL legal systems which are so much more complex than it being technically legal to make a report.

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Postby Lakeside Valley » Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:58 am

The Community of Lakeside Valley votes FOR


While our experts agreed with "Protection of Sexual Assault Victims", it seems the author has already started working on a replacement to fix the "problems" with the current resolution. So, in order to support the author in developing the replacement, we find it appropriate to vote for. Otherwise we would vote against. We want to repeat we have no problem with the current resolution, we are simply acknowledging the author wishes to improve it. There's not much else to say, the experts went home early today.
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Postby Estados dos Brasileiros » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:18 pm

A revogação não faz sentido, vendo que podemos melhorar a legislação com leis complementares e não a revogando completamente.
Acredito que devamos caminhar rumo ao progresso, espero que as nações possam pensar sobre essa votação com cautela.

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Postby Untecna » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:18 pm

Besides the need for repeal, it is very interesting that this repeal hinges mostly on one word.

Supported, though.

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Postby Juansonia » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:29 pm

Estados dos Brasileiros wrote:A revogação não faz sentido, vendo que podemos melhorar a legislação com leis complementares e não a revogando completamente.
Acredito que devamos caminhar rumo ao progresso, espero que as nações possam pensar sobre essa votação com cautela.

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The repeal does not make sense, seeing that we can improve the legislation with complementary laws and not repeal it completely.
I believe that we must move towards progress, I hope that nations can think about this vote with caution.

Not repeal it completely? That's not how the WA works. Laws must be passed or repealed in their entirety, amendments are not allowed. Supplementary legislation, while useful, is not useful in this circumstance, as any fix would contradict the law in question. A repeal is the only remedy that is both legal and effective.
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Postby Oklanania » Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:58 pm

I am skeptical of the repeal as it is one of the few protecting victims, if a little unfair. I abstain from voting.
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Postby Philimbesi » Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm

Fully support, no replacement needed.
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Postby Veneti Marsei » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:01 pm

Regardless of your intentions, I'm just coming out and saying that that headline looks REALLY BAD. Like, REALLY BAD. "Repeal Protections of Sexual Assault Victims". Jesus Christ that just sounds awful.
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Postby Juansonia » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:45 pm

Veneti Marsei wrote:Regardless of your intentions, I'm just coming out and saying that that headline looks REALLY BAD. Like, REALLY BAD. "Repeal Protections of Sexual Assault Victims". Jesus Christ that just sounds awful.
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Postby Artlanduss » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:14 pm

Sou totalmente contra

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:57 pm

It is the only name possible, given the target title.

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Postby Lakeside Valley » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:44 am

Veneti Marsei wrote:Regardless of your intentions, I'm just coming out and saying that that headline looks REALLY BAD. Like, REALLY BAD. "Repeal Protections of Sexual Assault Victims". Jesus Christ that just sounds awful.


While we agree, we'd like to point out the author of "Protections of Sexual Assault Victims" has also voted to repeal the resolution, so that they can submit a new, improved version. This is the only reason we are voting for.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:26 am

“As one might guess from my similar efforts on this topic, I find myself recommending a vote in favour of this repeal. The targeted resolution was overall one of positive effect, but, it had a few worrying flaws, that a repeal can address.”
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Postby Philimbesi » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:45 am

Veneti Marsei wrote:Regardless of your intentions, I'm just coming out and saying that that headline looks REALLY BAD. Like, REALLY BAD. "Repeal Protections of Sexual Assault Victims". Jesus Christ that just sounds awful.


Tell us you only vote for things on the basis of their title without telling us you only vote for things on the basis of their title.

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Postby Las Duendes » Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:37 am

How do I vote? I also want to get rid of protection for sexual assault victims.

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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:17 pm

Las Duendes wrote:How do I vote? I also want to get rid of protection for sexual assault victims.

(OOC: To vote, you must first join the World Assembly, which you can do [url=https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_status]here[url].)
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Postby The Swaggerlands » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:24 pm

Las Duendes wrote:How do I vote? I also want to get rid of protection for sexual assault victims.

On behalf of the international ambassadorship of The Swaggerlands, this is sus as hell

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