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Mirrodinia
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Postby Mirrodinia » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:25 am

Corrian wrote:Your name definitely seems familiar, but man its been a while.



Last time I was on here regularly was probably 2012.
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"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Postby Mirrodinia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:51 pm

I'm interested in exploring this kind of Y2K era paranoid doomed experimental early internet vibe that I think the below albums get across really well. Anyone have any more suggestions as to what might fit with these?

Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac
Wilco - Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Björk - Homogenic and Vespertine
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Microphones - Mount Eerie
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Deftones - White Pony
Coldplay - Parachutes and A Rush Of Blood To The Head
U2 - Pop
The Shins - Oh Inverted World
System Of A Down - Toxicity
OutKast - Stankonia

Obviously there's a pretty wide variety here, and I think some of them are only kind of tangential to this vibe I'm talking about. So I've ordered them so that the stuff at the top is more what I'm getting at and the stuff further down kind of spins off in different directions, though I believe it's still related. I haven't heard the full discographies of most of these artists either, so feel free to recommend other albums from these same artists. Other than Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, and U2 there's a lot I don't know from them!
QueenRushMuse Yeah!
"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:37 pm

Did you have a RYM? I can't remember if I am remembering properly.
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Forget MeNot
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Postby Forget MeNot » Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:41 pm

Esthe wrote:
Nuroblav wrote:Some updated lists:
1. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
2. Nimrod - Green Day
3. Toxicity - System of a Down
4. Smash - The Offspring
5. Paranoid - Black Sabbath
6. Dirt - Alice in Chains
7. Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers) - Wu Tang Clan
8. Dookie - Green Day
9. All the Little Lights - Passenger
10. Kid A - Radiohead
11. Liquid Swords - GZA
12. Здорово и вечно - Grazhdanskaya Oborona
13. Nevermind - Nirvana
14. The Bends - Radiohead
15. American Idiot - Green Day
16. Cowboys From Hell - Pantera
17. Far Beyond Driven - Pantera
18. Koяn - Koяn
19. Around the Fur - Deftones
20. Out of Time - R.E.M
21. Evil Empire - Rage Against the Machine
22. Slipknot - Slipknot
23. Ten - Pearl Jam
24. In Utero - Nirvana
25. Illmatic - Nas
26. System of a Down - System of a Down
27. Floral Shoppe - Vektroid (Macintosh Plus)
28. Rust in Peace - Megadeth
29. Symbolic - Death
30. Wisconsin Death Trip - Static-X
31. Get Some - Snot
32. From Mars to Sirius - Gojira
33. Vulgar Display of Power - Pantera
34. Demanufacture - Fear Factory
35. Frizzle Fry - Primus
36. Lateralus - Tool
37. Innervisions - Stevie Wonder
38. ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ - Ministry
39. Exmilitary - Death Grips (not technically an album but whatever)
40. What's the Story (Morning Glory) - Oasis
41. Sublime - Sublime
42. Sailing the Seas of Cheese - Primus
43. Badmotorfinger - Soundgarden
44. Undertow - Tool
45. White Pony - Deftones
46. Demon Days - Gorillaz
47. Всё идёт по плану - Grazhdanskaya Oborona
48. Adrenaline - Deftones
49. Destroy Erase Improve - Meshuggah
50. OK Computer - Radiohead

Not even one Beatles album on the list? BLASPHEMY!!!!!


Truly a crime

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Mirrodinia
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Postby Mirrodinia » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:48 am

Corrian wrote:Did you have a RYM? I can't remember if I am remembering properly.



No I didn't back then. I do have one now, but I really only use it to catalogue my record collection. I think I reviewed like two albums, and one of them I only reviewed because I had to go through the process of adding it to the database so I could put it in my digital collection.
QueenRushMuse Yeah!
"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Postby Anollasia » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:29 pm

Mirrodinia wrote:I used to post in the General Music Discussion thread a lot when I was first getting into music years ago. Well I'm older now, much more into music, and back on NS. Hello Corrian! Hello Anollasia!


That was such a long time ago! Welcome back!

Mirrodinia wrote:I'm interested in exploring this kind of Y2K era paranoid doomed experimental early internet vibe that I think the below albums get across really well. Anyone have any more suggestions as to what might fit with these?

Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac
Wilco - Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Björk - Homogenic and Vespertine
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Microphones - Mount Eerie
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Deftones - White Pony
Coldplay - Parachutes and A Rush Of Blood To The Head
U2 - Pop
The Shins - Oh Inverted World
System Of A Down - Toxicity
OutKast - Stankonia

Obviously there's a pretty wide variety here, and I think some of them are only kind of tangential to this vibe I'm talking about. So I've ordered them so that the stuff at the top is more what I'm getting at and the stuff further down kind of spins off in different directions, though I believe it's still related. I haven't heard the full discographies of most of these artists either, so feel free to recommend other albums from these same artists. Other than Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, and U2 there's a lot I don't know from them!


Out of those, I've only listened to the Radiohead ones and the U2 one. I think the album Gran Turismo by The Cardigans sort of has that vibe, though it's not an album I like that much (the singles from it are good though).

Pop isn't that great imo. For U2, I'd recommend Boy, War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, and Zooropa.

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Mirrodinia
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Postby Mirrodinia » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:29 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Mirrodinia wrote:I used to post in the General Music Discussion thread a lot when I was first getting into music years ago. Well I'm older now, much more into music, and back on NS. Hello Corrian! Hello Anollasia!


That was such a long time ago! Welcome back!

Mirrodinia wrote:I'm interested in exploring this kind of Y2K era paranoid doomed experimental early internet vibe that I think the below albums get across really well. Anyone have any more suggestions as to what might fit with these?

Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac
Wilco - Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Björk - Homogenic and Vespertine
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Microphones - Mount Eerie
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Deftones - White Pony
Coldplay - Parachutes and A Rush Of Blood To The Head
U2 - Pop
The Shins - Oh Inverted World
System Of A Down - Toxicity
OutKast - Stankonia

Obviously there's a pretty wide variety here, and I think some of them are only kind of tangential to this vibe I'm talking about. So I've ordered them so that the stuff at the top is more what I'm getting at and the stuff further down kind of spins off in different directions, though I believe it's still related. I haven't heard the full discographies of most of these artists either, so feel free to recommend other albums from these same artists. Other than Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, and U2 there's a lot I don't know from them!


Out of those, I've only listened to the Radiohead ones and the U2 one. I think the album Gran Turismo by The Cardigans sort of has that vibe, though it's not an album I like that much (the singles from it are good though).

Pop isn't that great imo. For U2, I'd recommend Boy, War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, and Zooropa.



I'll check that out!

Also I may not have been clear, U2 is one of the ones I do know their discography very well. I agree with everything you said though! :)
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"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:52 pm

Mirrodinia wrote:
Corrian wrote:Did you have a RYM? I can't remember if I am remembering properly.



No I didn't back then. I do have one now, but I really only use it to catalogue my record collection. I think I reviewed like two albums, and one of them I only reviewed because I had to go through the process of adding it to the database so I could put it in my digital collection.

Ah, yeah, I think I remember now. Man it has been a long time. Its weird to think how much all of our lives have probably changed since then.
My Last.FM and RYM

Look on the bright side, one day you'll be dead~Street Sects

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Mirrodinia
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Postby Mirrodinia » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:32 pm

Corrian wrote:
Mirrodinia wrote:

No I didn't back then. I do have one now, but I really only use it to catalogue my record collection. I think I reviewed like two albums, and one of them I only reviewed because I had to go through the process of adding it to the database so I could put it in my digital collection.

Ah, yeah, I think I remember now. Man it has been a long time. Its weird to think how much all of our lives have probably changed since then.


A whole lot has changed for me (I was about 12 or 13 at the time). I can't imagine how much it's changed for you as well!
QueenRushMuse Yeah!
"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:16 pm

Mirrodinia wrote:
Corrian wrote:Ah, yeah, I think I remember now. Man it has been a long time. Its weird to think how much all of our lives have probably changed since then.


A whole lot has changed for me (I was about 12 or 13 at the time). I can't imagine how much it's changed for you as well!

I'm 27, for some reason, working in retail throughout the pandemic.

Its been something, certainly.
My Last.FM and RYM

Look on the bright side, one day you'll be dead~Street Sects

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The V I C
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Postby The V I C » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:48 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Mirrodinia wrote:I used to post in the General Music Discussion thread a lot when I was first getting into music years ago. Well I'm older now, much more into music, and back on NS. Hello Corrian! Hello Anollasia!


That was such a long time ago! Welcome back!

Mirrodinia wrote:I'm interested in exploring this kind of Y2K era paranoid doomed experimental early internet vibe that I think the below albums get across really well. Anyone have any more suggestions as to what might fit with these?

Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac
Wilco - Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Björk - Homogenic and Vespertine
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Microphones - Mount Eerie
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Deftones - White Pony
Coldplay - Parachutes and A Rush Of Blood To The Head
U2 - Pop
The Shins - Oh Inverted World
System Of A Down - Toxicity
OutKast - Stankonia

Obviously there's a pretty wide variety here, and I think some of them are only kind of tangential to this vibe I'm talking about. So I've ordered them so that the stuff at the top is more what I'm getting at and the stuff further down kind of spins off in different directions, though I believe it's still related. I haven't heard the full discographies of most of these artists either, so feel free to recommend other albums from these same artists. Other than Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, and U2 there's a lot I don't know from them!


Out of those, I've only listened to the Radiohead ones and the U2 one. I think the album Gran Turismo by The Cardigans sort of has that vibe, though it's not an album I like that much (the singles from it are good though).

Pop isn't that great imo. For U2, I'd recommend Boy, War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, and Zooropa.


I'm also not a fan of U2's 90s albums. To me, everything between 1988 and 1999 should not have happened.
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Mirrodinia
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Postby Mirrodinia » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:37 pm

The V I C wrote:
Anollasia wrote:
That was such a long time ago! Welcome back!



Out of those, I've only listened to the Radiohead ones and the U2 one. I think the album Gran Turismo by The Cardigans sort of has that vibe, though it's not an album I like that much (the singles from it are good though).

Pop isn't that great imo. For U2, I'd recommend Boy, War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, and Zooropa.


I'm also not a fan of U2's 90s albums. To me, everything between 1988 and 1999 should not have happened.



To me it's the stuff after Pop where U2 bought too much into their own legend status and forgot they should be pushing boundaries rather than living too comfortably in them. I will say there are some decent songs spread across the 00's stuff, mostly the hits, but as records they don't stand up to anything Zooropa and prior. Although No Line On The Horizon does take a shot at getting out of their comfort zone again and mostly succeeds. That one is worth listening all the way through. But otherwise it's been a creative drought forever 20 years.
QueenRushMuse Yeah!
"Come on, you know I'm at least half crazy. (weird people live longer)"--Bohlatopia

"We need more songs about pets and less about breakups and romances and love stories and blah blah blah."--Corrian

"If you see it darling, it's there."--Freddie Mercury

"I don't need a girl
Don't need a friend
Cause my friend lonesome's unconditional."
--Max Collins, EVE 6

"Blah blah"--Alex Lifeson

"The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong"
--Neil Peart
"Why would one want to not be weird? If you aren't weird then you are normal, and you know something about normal...it doesn't exist.

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Postby Mun Slleackst » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:39 pm

Mirrodinia wrote:I'm interested in exploring this kind of Y2K era paranoid doomed experimental early internet vibe that I think the below albums get across really well. Anyone have any more suggestions as to what might fit with these?

Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A, and Amnesiac
Wilco - Summerteeth and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Björk - Homogenic and Vespertine
Modest Mouse - The Moon And Antarctica
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Microphones - Mount Eerie
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven
Deftones - White Pony
Coldplay - Parachutes and A Rush Of Blood To The Head
U2 - Pop
The Shins - Oh Inverted World
System Of A Down - Toxicity
OutKast - Stankonia

Obviously there's a pretty wide variety here, and I think some of them are only kind of tangential to this vibe I'm talking about. So I've ordered them so that the stuff at the top is more what I'm getting at and the stuff further down kind of spins off in different directions, though I believe it's still related. I haven't heard the full discographies of most of these artists either, so feel free to recommend other albums from these same artists. Other than Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay, and U2 there's a lot I don't know from them!

I would recommend Selected Ambient Works 85–92 by Aphex Twin, it’s not for everyone but if you liked Kid A, you’ll love it

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Corrian
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:01 am

Dude, there's a new Porcupine Tree song.

Its been 12 years.
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