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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:56 am



That won’t work.

Demos won’t have anybody interesting and the repubs will just throw up another trump wannabe.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:28 pm

North Carolina's Lieutenant Governor caught on tape saying that saying children shouldn't be learning about filth, i.e., LGBTQ+ people

Yes, I know the story's from the NY Daily News, but the video in question has been verified.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:12 pm

Shrillland wrote:North Carolina's Lieutenant Governor caught on tape saying that saying children shouldn't be learning about filth, i.e., LGBTQ+ people

Yes, I know the story's from the NY Daily News, but the video in question has been verified.


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Postby Kannap » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:23 pm

Shrillland wrote:North Carolina's Lieutenant Governor caught on tape saying that saying children shouldn't be learning about filth, i.e., LGBTQ+ people

Yes, I know the story's from the NY Daily News, but the video in question has been verified.


Robinson fucking sucks and I hate him so much. I voted for Holley and it's a shame she didn't win that office. Thank goodness we didn't get Dan Forest in the governor's office.

But yeah dude has been saying shit like this for years and won the election anyway.

In 2016:
"The sick, deranged, sexual degenerates who promote this type of demonic behavior are the ones who will take the next step in our continuing moral decline toward total depravity. Free love, then homosexuality. Now the next push: the sexualization of the perverts most cherished target, children. These devil worshiping child molesters will not stop until they can legally abuse God's most precious gifts to us."


After the Pulse Nightclub shooting in 2016:

"“Homosexuality is still an abominable sin and I WILL NOT join in ‘celebrating gay pride’ nor will I fly their sacrilegious flag on my page. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I'm not falling for the media/pop culture ‘okey-doke.’”


2017:
"You CAN NOT love God and support the homosexual agenda."


again 2017:
"Michelle Obama is an anti-American, abortion and gay marriage supporting, liberal leftist elitist and I'll be glad when he takes his boyfriend and leaves the White House.”


2018:
“I posted this back in 2014. Sadly, it is currently being proven true. We have pushed homosexuality over the top. Mark my words pedophilia is next, which will be closely followed by the END of civilization as we know it.”


In 2019:
"Those adults who choose to follow the path of gender 'transitioning' have that right, but children should not be part of this. Children are being used as propagandized shields in the fight to force the sexual preferences of a few down the collective throat of the American people. From teaching 'gender fluidity' to grade schoolers, to story time with drag queens, those who intend to victimize children for their own sake are on the march. Those who push these agendas do so by bullying society with threats of castigation. They have created a climate of fear that pushes the painfully obvious voices of reality and reason from the conversation.

Well I will not be bullied and I will not be silenced. No friendship, no kinship, no job, no public office is worth staying silent while these children are being mentally raped. Those who push these agendas can count me as an enemy. I will speak up against you at every turn and rally those around me to do the same. Crucify me if you like. The wicked crucified Christ for telling the truth, so I'll be in good company."


also 2019:
“It’s odd that the left doesn’t call masculinity ‘toxic’ when it’s competing against women in female athletics.”

“It seems men aren’t being encouraged to excel anywhere these days...except in female athletics.”

“The same people who claim the new Rambo movie is to ‘manly’ are the same people who think it’s okay for the homecoming queen to BE a man.”


still 2019, on Confederate statues being removed from public squares:
“While the racially blinded are pulling down statues of dead men, the wicked are busy erecting temples to baal in which they will sacrifice the living in the womb.”


2019 still, he's anti-democracy on some idea that America is a solely a republic or something:
“Those who defend our REPUBLIC do so to keep us from becoming a democracy.”


He's antisemitic, having spoken in support of the conspiracy theory that Jews rule every country's central bank. He's anti-Muslim and has called American Muslims "invaders" who "refuse to assimilate to our ways while demanding respect they have not earned". Last year, he continually insisted that COVID-19 was a globalist conspiracy to defeat Donald Trump and dismissed the threat of the virus, writing "The looming pandemic I'm most worried about is socialism".

The alarming thing is all these disgusting things he posted on Facebook over the years or said in the past came up during his campaign and - despite never apologizing for them or rescinding those statements - he won the election for lieutenant governor. Now he's still going around saying these things while holding that office.

And I reckon he'll run for Governor in 2024 when Cooper can't run again, which is scary. I hope he doesn't win but I suppose that depends on who Democrats run against him.
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Postby Inarceseropia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:30 pm

Shrillland wrote:North Carolina's Lieutenant Governor caught on tape saying that saying children shouldn't be learning about filth, i.e., LGBTQ+ people

Yes, I know the story's from the NY Daily News, but the video in question has been verified.

The majoriy of his voters share the same view.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:13 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:North Carolina's Lieutenant Governor caught on tape saying that saying children shouldn't be learning about filth, i.e., LGBTQ+ people

Yes, I know the story's from the NY Daily News, but the video in question has been verified.

The majoriy of his voters share the same view.

You mean his electorate are scarcily different from rabid Hitlerites?
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Postby Inarceseropia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:18 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:The majoriy of his voters share the same view.

You mean his electorate are scarcily different from rabid Hitlerites?

No, but simmilar and the US is supposedly a democracy.

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:21 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:The majoriy of his voters share the same view.

You mean his electorate are scarcily different from rabid Hitlerites?


Probably.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:22 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You mean his electorate are scarcily different from rabid Hitlerites?

No, but simmilar and the US is supposedly a democracy.

You mean if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should do it?
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Postby Inarceseropia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:27 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:No, but simmilar and the US is supposedly a democracy.

You mean if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should do it?

No, but is the majoriy do not want immigration it should be respected. Also saying nusty stuff is not as gasing Jews.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:29 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You mean if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should do it?

No, but is the majoriy do not want immigration it should be respected. Also saying nusty stuff is not as gasing Jews.

So if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should "respect" their decision?
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:No, but is the majoriy do not want immigration it should be respected. Also saying nusty stuff is not as gasing Jews.

So if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should "respect" their decision?

No, but again white people are not savages to do such thing.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:30 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should "respect" their decision?

No, but again white people are not savages to do such thing.

You know the OG Holocaust was perpetrated primarily by white people right?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:31 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So if 50.01% of an electorate wants to gas the Jews again we should "respect" their decision?

No, but again white people are not savages to do such thing.


So how did the Holocaust happen if white people are incapable of doing such a thing? How did any of the other genocides perpetuated throughout history by European colonial powers happen?
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:No, but again white people are not savages to do such thing.

You know the OG Holocaust was perpetrated primarily by white people right?

Yes, and? Are you suggest White people are some kind monsters who should have not the rigtt to vote?

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:32 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You know the OG Holocaust was perpetrated primarily by white people right?

Yes, and? Are you suggest White people are some kind monsters who should have not the rigtt to vote?


You're getting straw on the carpet.
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Vassenor wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:No, but again white people are not savages to do such thing.


So how did the Holocaust happen if white people are incapable of doing such a thing? How did any of the other genocides perpetuated throughout history by European colonial powers happen?

White people also liberated the Jews from the camp. The whole ww2 is an inter White conflict. I really do not see what non-whites have to do with it.

Please name some genocide done by European colonial power. Also please sourve an academic article and not wikipedia.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:34 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You know the OG Holocaust was perpetrated primarily by white people right?

Yes, and? Are you suggest White people are some kind monsters who should have not the rigtt to vote?

When they decide that "dem goddamn negroes/transsexuals/Jews" should be considered Untermenschen? Yes the US Army should then exercise their duty to defend the Constitution.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:35 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how did the Holocaust happen if white people are incapable of doing such a thing? How did any of the other genocides perpetuated throughout history by European colonial powers happen?

White people also liberated the Jews from the camp. The whole ww2 is an inter White conflict. I really do not see what non-whites have to do with it.

Please name some genocide done by European colonial power. Also please sourve an academic article and not wikipedia.


You were the person to make it about white people to begin with.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:36 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So how did the Holocaust happen if white people are incapable of doing such a thing? How did any of the other genocides perpetuated throughout history by European colonial powers happen?

White people also liberated the Jews from the camp. The whole ww2 is an inter White conflict. I really do not see what non-whites have to do with it.

Please name some genocide done by European colonial power. Also please sourve an academic article and not wikipedia.


Genocide in the Congo Free State perpetrated by the Belgians.
Genocide in Algeria perpetrated by the French.
The Herero and Namaqua genocides perpetrated by the Germans.
Multiple genocides against the First Nations in North America.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:38 pm

It's not that surprising. Homophobia in the black community has long been a talking point
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Postby Inarceseropia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:White people also liberated the Jews from the camp. The whole ww2 is an inter White conflict. I really do not see what non-whites have to do with it.

Please name some genocide done by European colonial power. Also please sourve an academic article and not wikipedia.


Genocide in the Congo Free State perpetrated by the Belgians.
Genocide in Algeria perpetrated by the French.
The Herero and Namaqua genocides perpetrated by the Germans.
Multiple genocides against the First Nations in North America.

Do you have some academic papers on this events, also from some respectable historian?

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Postby Inarceseropia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:44 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Inarceseropia wrote:Yes, and? Are you suggest White people are some kind monsters who should have not the rigtt to vote?

When they decide that "dem goddamn negroes/transsexuals/Jews" should be considered Untermenschen? Yes the US Army should then exercise their duty to defend the Constitution.

Ok, but it would be better to divide the US and racial and ideological lines.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:44 pm

Inarceseropia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Genocide in the Congo Free State perpetrated by the Belgians.
Genocide in Algeria perpetrated by the French.
The Herero and Namaqua genocides perpetrated by the Germans.
Multiple genocides against the First Nations in North America.

Do you have some academic papers on this events, also from some respectable historian?

Do your own goddamn homework. This is like asking if the Earth actually orbits the Sun.
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