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Who do you think will win the Virginia Gubernatorial Race?

Terry McAuliffe(D)
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Glenn Youngkin(R)
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Postby Deblar » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:47 am

The Black Forrest wrote:At times I wonder how many families has 45 broken up.

Figuratively or literally?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:55 am

Deblar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:At times I wonder how many families has 45 broken up.

Figuratively or literally?


That one was already known. I am speaking of American families who no longer talk to each other after 45 took office.

In my case. Two.

One branch are will not admit they are trumpists and yet defend everything he says and does. We used to get together multiple times a years. We no longer do that. My wife and her cousin used to be somewhat close. It was reduced to facebook and she even admits to hiding her posts (I blanked on the option. It doesn’t block the user; it prevents their posts from displaying in your feed).

One branch is my family. My aunt died a week or so ago. She wasn’t a trumpist. She thought him a pig. Her children however are. We will loose contact as time moves on.

My other aunt died and I am sure of my cousins; there are a couple trumpists. We were not in contact that much so 45 can’t be blamed on that one.

I guess being as brilliant as he is; I wonder if his mis-spelled MAHA? Making America Hate Again.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:55 am

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:08 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Deblar wrote:Figuratively or literally?


That one was already known. I am speaking of American families who no longer talk to each other after 45 took office.

In my case. Two.

One branch are will not admit they are trumpists and yet defend everything he says and does. We used to get together multiple times a years. We no longer do that. My wife and her cousin used to be somewhat close. It was reduced to facebook and she even admits to hiding her posts (I blanked on the option. It doesn’t block the user; it prevents their posts from displaying in your feed).

One branch is my family. My aunt died a week or so ago. She wasn’t a trumpist. She thought him a pig. Her children however are. We will loose contact as time moves on.

My other aunt died and I am sure of my cousins; there are a couple trumpists. We were not in contact that much so 45 can’t be blamed on that one.

I guess being as brilliant as he is; I wonder if his mis-spelled MAHA? Making America Hate Again.

I know a few American families of Republicans and Democrats who don't talk to each other because of President Trump. But that is not President Trump's fault. I have a few Democrat friends, a Honduran and an American Friend. Jerry is a socialist, Pro Cuba, Pro Castro supporter, but Jerry will give you the shirt off his back, Jerry practices real socialism. Politics has nothing to do with Friendship and Family.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:12 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
That one was already known. I am speaking of American families who no longer talk to each other after 45 took office.

In my case. Two.

One branch are will not admit they are trumpists and yet defend everything he says and does. We used to get together multiple times a years. We no longer do that. My wife and her cousin used to be somewhat close. It was reduced to facebook and she even admits to hiding her posts (I blanked on the option. It doesn’t block the user; it prevents their posts from displaying in your feed).

One branch is my family. My aunt died a week or so ago. She wasn’t a trumpist. She thought him a pig. Her children however are. We will loose contact as time moves on.

My other aunt died and I am sure of my cousins; there are a couple trumpists. We were not in contact that much so 45 can’t be blamed on that one.

I guess being as brilliant as he is; I wonder if his mis-spelled MAHA? Making America Hate Again.

I know a few American families of Republicans and Democrats who don't talk to each other because of President Trump. But that is not President Trump's fault. I have a few Democrat friends, a Honduran and an American Friend. Jerry is a socialist, Pro Cuba, Pro Castro supporter, but Jerry will give you the shirt off his back, Jerry practices real socialism. Politics has nothing to do with Friendship and Family.


Politics is always around. Friends and family usually mark it as a taboo subject during gatherings. My families are conservative, religious conservative and liberal. They never had a serious discussion of politics until 45 appeared.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am



Anyone want to bet that Trump is throwing a bitch fit because the government won’t shut down?
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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:14 am

To be honest I wondered if the mad lads would crash the Continuing Resolution too.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:15 am

North Washington Republic wrote:


Anyone want to bet that Trump is throwing a bitch fit because the government won’t shut down?

He's upset because there's funding for Afghan Refugees in it
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:21 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I know a few American families of Republicans and Democrats who don't talk to each other because of President Trump. But that is not President Trump's fault. I have a few Democrat friends, a Honduran and an American Friend. Jerry is a socialist, Pro Cuba, Pro Castro supporter, but Jerry will give you the shirt off his back, Jerry practices real socialism. Politics has nothing to do with Friendship and Family.


Politics is always around. Friends and family usually mark it as a taboo subject during gatherings. My families are conservative, religious conservative and liberal. They never had a serious discussion of politics until 45 appeared.

I saw a previous post of yours awhile back where you make similar comments. You say you guys don't talk much anymore because of President Trump. I agree, just don't talk politics and problems solved. In my Cuban family and friends we are all proud conservative Republican Trump supporters. My Honduran friend is a liberal Democrat, President Obama, Hillary and Biden supporter, but he is my friend. We can talk politics without insulting each other personally and politically. Jerry and I don't talk about Cuba and the Castro's, but if we did, we are still friends. Jerry is a nice cool dude, Jerry will give you the shirt of his back. Politics has nothing to do with Friendship and Family.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:25 am

Kowani wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Anyone want to bet that Trump is throwing a bitch fit because the government won’t shut down?

He's upset because there's funding for Afghan Refugees in it

And this is exactly why Trump's withdrawal would have been even worse.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:29 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Politics is always around. Friends and family usually mark it as a taboo subject during gatherings. My families are conservative, religious conservative and liberal. They never had a serious discussion of politics until 45 appeared.

I saw a previous post of yours awhile back where you make similar comments. You say you guys don't talk much anymore because of President Trump. I agree, just don't talk politics and problems solved. In my Cuban family and friends we are all proud conservative Republican Trump supporters. My Honduran friend is a liberal Democrat President Obama, Hillary and Biden supporter, but he is my friend. We can talk politics without insulting each other personally and politically. Jerry and I don't talk about Cuba and the Castro's, but if we did, we are still friends. Jerry is a nice cool dude, Jerry will give you the shirt of his back. Politics has nothing to do with Friendship and Family.


And what if their views are so abhorrent and evil that you can't maintain your own integrity as a person as long as you consider them friends? Being friends with a person means accepting them for who they are, and if you can't accept who they are for whatever reason, or if who they are actively denies the humanity of others, then how can you still be friends with them and keep your own integrity?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:31 am

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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:34 am

Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am

Corrian wrote:Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.


I don't normally do it myself, but I felt I had to make the point just this once.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:35 am

Corrian wrote:Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.


How long have you been in NSG?
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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:36 am

Shrillland wrote:
Corrian wrote:Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.


I don't normally do it myself, but I felt I had to make the point just this once.

Fair.

The Black Forrest wrote:
Corrian wrote:Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.


How long have you been in NSG?

Too long.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:39 am

Shrillland wrote:
Corrian wrote:Is engaging GMS a drug to you all? I've just blocked their posts again, and skim through those parts of the thread.


I don't normally do it myself, but I felt I had to make the point just this once.

lol, :) Thank you Shirlland my friend. There is nothing wrong with GMS. I am a Proud Conservative Republican, Nationalist, with a slight economic, Libertarian streak, Trump supporter, like millions of American Citizens of the USA. We are all NS Friends on NS and discord who can RP with each other, at least this is how it should be on NS and discord. I will never place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. I have been on NS for over 11 Years,
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Postby HISPIDA » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Return West Virginia to Virginia

This, unironically. West Virginia's statehood is completely unconstitutional. It's admission to the Union violated Article IV, Section III, Clause I.

wtf a based algerstonia take???

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:13 pm

Hispida wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:This, unironically. West Virginia's statehood is completely unconstitutional. It's admission to the Union violated Article IV, Section III, Clause I.

wtf a based algerstonia take???

It's an interesting based post by my good friend, Great Algerstonia. Keep West Virginia Great Again.
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Postby HISPIDA » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:17 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Hispida wrote:wtf a based algerstonia take???

It's an interesting based post by my good friend, Great Algerstonia. Keep West Virginia Great Again.

now i'm agreeing with GMS??? what bizzaro world have i been thrust into?

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Postby Kowani » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:19 pm

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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:23 pm



If Omar votes against this, I’m going to her next town hall and respectfully, calmly but firmly comfort her on this. She will most likely dismiss it and accuse me of anti-Muslim and racist bigotry, like she usually does against any criticism, including legitimate constructive criticism.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:25 pm

Hispida wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:It's an interesting based post by my good friend, Great Algerstonia. Keep West Virginia Great Again.

now i'm agreeing with GMS??? what bizzaro world have i been thrust into?

lol, :) I'm having a massive lol attack, :) :rofl: anyone please call 911 ? GMS.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:29 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:


If Omar votes against this, I’m going to her next town hall and respectfully, calmly but firmly comfort her on this. She will most likely dismiss it and accuse me of anti-Muslim and racist bigotry, like she usually does against any criticism, including legitimate constructive criticism.

The fact you're accusing her of voting against something her caucus hasn't opposed yet and has no reason to makes your claims of her being unreasonable unsound.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:42 pm


Given that House progressives have been under the impression this whole time that there was a deal for $3.5T, doesn't this basically mean Schumer has been putting one over on them (and maybe the White House too) since July...? Or do we think it's more likely the White House was in on this because Biden's ultimately fine with a more Manchinoid approach?
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