American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

[The Black Forrest]

Things Larry Elder opposes: Disability protections
Minimum wages
Covid protections

Things Larry Elder supported: Reparations for slave owners


the california recall election is a serious electoral function

Tbf, there's actually some truth to his reasoning for the ADA, his reasoning is outdated, but for about a decade, the ADA caused a substantial rise in hiring discrimination against disabled people. Like all legislation on hiring discrimination, the ADA's provision on that is anemic because it's nearly impossible to prove that you've been discriminated against in not being hired, considerably more difficult than proving that your termination was discriminatory, so, at least initially, that provision of the ADA provided an incentive to hiring discrimination: companies were able to protect themselves from the possible accusation by just not hiring disabled people. As for its other provisions, the ADA is anemic there too and falls well-short of being adequate for disabled people to be able to live normally in society.

What you have described is basically everybody. Too many fucknards who think the “free market” bullshit will solve everything. The true legal discrimination is age related. You get caught going after disabilities; you get to pay a great deal of money….well not enough.

The only way to instill “ethics” into a company is to hit the extremely fucking hard financially.

What needs to be done is people need to force the goverments into enforcing the laws. More investigations, etc. The word of a business is meaningless when money is involved.

I think his position on that and the other things is wrong ofc, but it also has to be said that, in our current, profit-driven economy, the ADA isn't really that helpful to disabled people, it simply doesn't go nearly far enough.[/quote]

[The Black Forrest]

Not surprised. If they force a long term tenat out, they get to raise the rent prices even more.

Who exactly do they expect to replace the tenant with? The markets going to be chock full of people who took advantage of the moratorium. They're just replacing people who own them money with people who don't.

You are assuming these places go idle. They don’t. There are enough people with decent incomes to take them. The poor tends to get built over anyway. We had a town that used to be on that national crime lists. There was enough hanky stuff going on where white people were racially profiled and pulled over if seen driving around. No reason to be there after dark so you are definitely up to something (purchasing drugs; etc.).

Never could solve the issues though they never really tried. The did the usual American thing of talking about concern, etc. They basically built over them. New malls which attracted the surrounding area (more money). More businesses after arranging to the have the police in the surrounding areas start patrolling the areas and slowly bought out and built up the homes around the area.

Now it’s just an average town.

People talk about concern like Christian charity and all that. When it comes time to sacrifice for it? My taxes are too high already. Here is $25.

When you have a monetary based economy built on the principles of acquiring the most in the shortest time possible? You will always have poverty.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Not surprised. If they force a long term tenat out, they get to raise the rent prices even more.

Who exactly do they expect to replace the tenant with? The markets going to be chock full of people who took advantage of the moratorium. They're just replacing people who own them money with people who don't.

It's easier to take away the guns than to invest in better institutions to assist in people's metal health, especially to those who normally could not afford it.

It clearly is not.

Breaking the gun lobby is not easy, but you can get corporate support in attempting to do so, but the same cannot be said for social programs that are likely to tax them.

[San Lumen]

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... story.html

Nyc mayoral candidate Curtis Sliwa paid $11K for Proud Boys-backing political consultant

[Genivaria]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

[Shrillland]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

It's still there, we just can't do anything more than is already being done to stop it. We still need more states in the compact, but we've already gotten most of the ones that want to join.

[San Lumen]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

There isn’t a whole lot that can be done about it right now. A constitutional amendment isn’t going to happen.

[Thermodolia]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

Just like how the republicans went apeshit over the EC back during 2012 but disappeared four years later.

[Thermodolia]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

It's still there, we just can't do anything more than is already being done to stop it. We still need more states in the compact, but we've already gotten most of the ones that want to join.

Well there’s pending legislation in MN, Wisconsin, and GA. If the democrats flip enough seats in GA and AZ in 2022 you could see GA and AZ join

[San Lumen]

It's still there, we just can't do anything more than is already being done to stop it. We still need more states in the compact, but we've already gotten most of the ones that want to join.

Well there’s pending legislation in MN, Wisconsin, and GA. If the democrats flip enough seats in GA and AZ in 2022 you could see GA and AZ join

You think the Georgia legislature could flip next year?

[Thermodolia]

Well there’s pending legislation in MN, Wisconsin, and GA. If the democrats flip enough seats in GA and AZ in 2022 you could see GA and AZ join

You think the Georgia legislature could flip next year?

Probably not. But AZ will. Also you need about 6 or 7 more states to sign the compact. Abs most of those have gotten close but ya just need another session or a different Governor.

[San Lumen]

You think the Georgia legislature could flip next year?

Probably not. But AZ will. Also you need about 6 or 7 more states to sign the compact. Abs most of those have gotten close but ya just need another session or a different Governor.

I hope your right that Democrats gain the legislature and hopefully the governor along with keeping the Secretary of State’s office.

[Thermodolia]

Probably not. But AZ will. Also you need about 6 or 7 more states to sign the compact. Abs most of those have gotten close but ya just need another session or a different Governor.

I hope your right that Democrats gain the legislature and hopefully the governor along with keeping the Secretary of State’s office.

Either way AZ is going to have its fifth woman Governor, the two main candidates are both female

[San Lumen]

I hope your right that Democrats gain the legislature and hopefully the governor along with keeping the Secretary of State’s office.

Either way AZ is going to have its fifth woman Governor, the two main candidates are both female

That’s quite extraordinary. Arizona has had more woman Governors than any other state.

[Immortan Khan]

If Elijah McClain was walking past some Bloods or Crips, he'd probably have been left alone. Maybe if they were real dicks they would have mugged him but a missing wallet and a black eye is a lot better than a lethal injection.

Possible. Also possible that he would have ended up dead since his family moved away from an area rife with gang violence and he would have just been a number in some crime stat report that you'd never read. Because gangs really don't care who they hit a lot of the time.

What about Eric Garner? Well, the gangbangers are greedy, I'll give you that, so maybe they end up making him pay some protection money to keep on selling his loose cigarettes. That sucks, but strangulation sucks worse.

And if he doesn't pay he gets beaten half to death or just killed if he's messed up hard enough.

And drive-by shootings kill bystanders now and then, but I would bet on Breonna Taylor's survival chances being a lot better had the rain of bullets needed to pass through the exterior walls of her house.

Now and then is a funny way of saying quite often. I mean these are the groups that have taken school children behind alleyways to shoot them execution style simply to inflict pain on some rival.

Some folks would prefer to take their chances with the gangs.

Yes, stupid people who have romanticized views on gangs. The kind of people who unironically wear Tony Montana T-shirts and quote GoodFellas ad nauseum.

[The Alma Mater]

In other news - John M. Pierce, the lawyer who represents most of the Trump Terrorists involved in the Capitol insurrection (and former defender of Kyle Rittenhouse) is MIA. People from his office gave differing statements as to why - from him having been in an accident to him being on a ventilator with Covid.

[Gravlen]

In other news - John M. Pierce, the lawyer who represents most of the Trump Terrorists involved in the Capitol insurrection (and former defender of Kyle Rittenhouse) is MIA. People from his office gave differing statements as to why - from him having been in an accident to him being on a ventilator with Covid.

It's not that big of a mystery.

Missing Jan. 6 defense lawyer is recovering from illness, judge is told

A lawyer who recently disappeared from public view while representing 17 defendants facing charges related to the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot was "beginning to feel better" but also "very sick," a federal judge was told on Thursday.

At a status hearing for Peter Schwartz, an Owensboro, Kentucky, man facing 14 riot-related charges, including felonies, Ryan Marshall, an associate of John Pierce, the lawyer who represents Schwartz and 16 other riot defendants, said he spoke to Pierce on Tuesday evening and the absent lawyer said he was "beginning to feel better."

But Marshall said he then spoke to a friend of Pierce on Wednesday who told him Pierce remained "very sick" and had spent most of Wednesday asleep.

U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta said that because Marshall was not a lawyer, if necessary the court would appoint a lawyer to temporarily represent Schwartz if Pierce's health status remains unclear.

Prosecutors have cited conflicting news reports about Pierce's health problems. Some reports said Pierce had contracted COVID-19. An NPR reporter said last week that a friend of Pierce's told him Pierce did not have COVID-19 but was hospitalized due to "dehydration and exhaustion." That same reporter on Thursday said another source told him Pierce contracted COVID-19 but was not on a ventilator.

[Luminesa]

Interrupting today’s daily ramble and toxic sludge with a bit of an appeal (once again, not for myself but for others…)

The most battered communities by Hurricane Ida are largely those that are black, brown, and Native. I know for a fact that many Native communities in Louisiana are not protected by federal levees.

If y’all would like to really help communities that are aching hard, here is a good website which gives a list of Louisiana tribes you can support (United Houma Nation will let you donate directly to disaster relief, but even non-earmarked donations are good and will probably go to recovery efforts):
https://anothergulf.com/ida/

Once I find more resources, I’ll link them up and around here. Thank ya’ll!

[The Black Forrest]

Ya'll remember how the Dems went apeshit about the Electoral College for 4 years?
Where'd that energy go I wonder.

Why should they be upset? 45 clearly lost.

[Kowani]

Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

[Great Algerstonia]

In other news - John M. Pierce, the lawyer who represents most of the Trump Terrorists involved in the Capitol insurrection (and former defender of Kyle Rittenhouse) is MIA. People from his office gave differing statements as to why - from him having been in an accident to him being on a ventilator with Covid.

It's the deep state again

[Kowani]

FEMA revamps strict policy that prevented many Black families from receiving disaster aid

Homes that have been in families for generations are pretty commonplace in Black culture. Known as heirs’ property, many Black people live in houses or on land that they inherited informally and without the paperwork. But when they’re in need of aid after disaster strikes, it is hard to prove ownership.

Luckily, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is planning to change its requirements for verifying homeownership, which couldn’t be more timely as recovery after Hurricane Ida is just beginning. As a result of this change, Black people who have inherited property without any legal documentation will be able to rebuild their homes and lives.

According to NBC, FEMA relied on records like deeds and wills to prove that land belonged to disaster victims before it provided individual aid. Instead of curbing fraud, NBC notes, many Black applicants who owned heirs’ property were denied aid. FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell discussed improving aid distribution at a news conference with Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves and the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency. “What we’re trying to do is make sure that we understand each individual situation is unique and that we need to not have a one-size-fits-all approach,” she said to NBC.

Under the new policy, which is in effect for natural disasters declared since Aug. 23, such applicants will be able to take other steps to prove ownership, such as showing receipts for significant repairs or improvements at their homes. In some cases, they will be allowed to self-certify to meet the ownership requirements.

FEMA will now also send inspectors to the homes of people who can’t verify their property ownership, rather than send rejection letters that disaster survivors would have to appeal. Applicants able to show other forms of paperwork to employees during the visits won’t have to appeal.

The agency piloted the approach in response to flooding in June and July that inundated homes in Detroit and nearby communities.

“We saw a huge increase in the number of people that we were able to deem eligible,” Criswell said, “where in the past, we would have probably sent that letter and had them appeal the process.”

The agency’s previous policy was particularly punishing for Black communities in the South.

NBC reports that in a Washington Post analysis, FEMA’s denial rate when it came to “title issues” was twice as high in majority Black counties as the national average. After years of criticism, FEMA began using the approach in response to storm flooding that ruined Michigan homes earlier this summer. According to an NPR investigation, the agency enlisted stricter requirements after losing millions of dollars to fraudulent claims after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Arming them has already proven itself to be a disaster, they clearly can't handle themselves.

There are over one million gang members across the US not including all the other random criminals there are. Disarming the police would create power vacuum that would result in criminal organizations and ad hoc militias/self-defense orgs carving up communities to control. The state of American policing is pretty shit, but replacing it with petty warlords would be far worse*. Believe it or not, but a lot of countries don't have disarmed police services and also don't have the same problems that America has in regards to police shootings.


*Unless I'm the warlord, in which case it's better and based.

I know there are millions of gangsters in the US, and the biggest gang around is the police force.

But inequality is the primary driving force behind violent crime, and there wouldn't be so many gangsters if the state invested in its communities and stopped screwing them over for short term profit.

[Odreria]

Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis

[The Black Forrest]

Caifornia Assembly declares medical misinformation a public health crisis

The state Assembly followed San Diego County's lead Friday in passing a measure declaring medical misinformation a public health crisis.

The resolution introduced by Assemblywoman Akilah Weber, D-San Diego, states in part that health misinformation "has significantly undermined public health efforts, and the unmitigated proliferation of health misinformation has created a culture of mistrust and has prolonged the COVID-19 pandemic, endangering the health and safety of all Californians."

On Thursday, Monterey County Supervisor Luis Alejo said he plans to bring forward a medical misinformation policy in his community and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy publicly acknowledged San Diego County's first-of-its-kind policy.

"I am thrilled Assemblymember Weber and Supervisor Alejo are joining the fight against health misinformation," said San Diego Board of Supervisors Chair Nathan Fletcher. "Medical misinformation is prolonging the COVID-19 pandemic nationally, and it requires all of us coming together to fight back and slow the spread of misinformation.

"It's time to address this national issue everywhere," Fletcher said. "We are ready to work with leaders at all levels to make combating health misinformation a priority in order to maximize booster shot vaccinations later this year."

Late Tuesday evening, a divided county Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to adopt what is believed to be a first-in-the-nation policy of declaring COVID- 19 misinformation a public health crisis and to adopt a series of recommendations to actively combat it.

Next they're going to say that working out instead of watching disney plus is a public health crisis

Ah what? You are not making any sense there bud.