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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
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Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
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Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Total votes : 653

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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:38 am

Immortan Khan wrote:
Biwolfia wrote:If Canada didn't have a choice, then South Africa and Australia wouldn't have either.

Technically they were at war with the US.

Not during the War of 1812 they weren't.
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Biwolfia wrote:If Canada didn't have a choice, then South Africa and Australia wouldn't have either.

What you aren’t understanding is that it didn’t make economic sense to drag to colonies that where halfway across the world to fight a nation that had no overseas colonies to gain.

Using those standards it wouldn't have made economic sense for the UK to join the fight.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:43 am

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Sundiata wrote:Good! :)


Absolutely.


Given what you've said about LGBT people I'm surprised you support banning this. What's your rationale?

Probably because he realizes it is abusive and doesn't work.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:45 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Given what you've said about LGBT people I'm surprised you support banning this. What's your rationale?

Probably because he realizes it is abusive and doesn't work.

It’s not just abusive it’s torture. A friend of mine was subjected to it. I’m not sure if I can disclose the details as it might violate pg-13.

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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:49 am


How is that communism? That's just being a good citizen and keeping people alive.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 am

Biwolfia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Feeding children is COMMUNISM! :evil:

How is that communism? That's just being a good citizen and keeping people alive.


It's just sarcasm, fear not.
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:56 am

Shrillland wrote:
Biwolfia wrote:How is that communism? That's just being a good citizen and keeping people alive.


It's just sarcasm, fear not.

Oh ok
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am

Biwolfia wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Technically they were at war with the US.

Not during the War of 1812 they weren't.

Yes they were. Colonies didn't have control over whether or not they could join a war or not. They could control how much they contribute however and there was absolutely zero point in getting directly involved considering that the Colony of NSW was young penal colony and the Cape Colony was only recently obtained and had a number of internal disputes within it with very few British denizens. Had an American ship tried entering their ports however the colonies would have been obligated to fight it and attempt to capture or sink it. Which isn't entirely unreasonable given that the USS Essex was prowling the Pacific targeting British whaling and merchant vessels until it was defeated off the coast of Chile.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:09 pm

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/govern ... rriages-18

Age of consent to marry in New York now 18.

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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-legislation-raising-age-consent-marriages-18

Age of consent to marry in New York now 18.

Oh hallelujah. (this is genuine relief, kind of hard to display in text)
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:26 pm

https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/07 ... rry-elder/

Judge puts Larry Elder on California recall ballot, throws out tax return requirement

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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/07/newsom-recall-larry-elder/

Judge puts Larry Elder on California recall ballot, throws out tax return requirement

I have no idea what this means :)
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:30 pm

Biwolfia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://calmatters.org/politics/2021/07/newsom-recall-larry-elder/

Judge puts Larry Elder on California recall ballot, throws out tax return requirement

I have no idea what this means :)

California is holding a recall election on the governor later this year.

The conservative talk radio host will appear on the ballot as a candidate to replace Gov. Gavin Newsom in the Sept. 14 recall election, a judge ruled as she determined that a state law requiring that candidates submit five years of tax returns does not apply to recalls.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:30 pm


I actually really like ballot initiatives. In the *general* sense (some exceptions of course) it looks like when the public gets to vote on a particular issue instead of a particular candidate, they usually make the right decision.
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Biwolfia wrote:I have no idea what this means :)

California is holding a recall election on the governor later this year.

The conservative talk radio host will appear on the ballot as a candidate to replace Gov. Gavin Newsom in the Sept. 14 recall election, a judge ruled as she determined that a state law requiring that candidates submit five years of tax returns does not apply to recalls.

Ah ok
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Galloism wrote:

I actually really like ballot initiatives. In the *general* sense (some exceptions of course) it looks like when the public gets to vote on a particular issue instead of a particular candidate, they usually make the right decision.

Yeah agreed
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Biwolfia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-legislation-raising-age-consent-marriages-18

Age of consent to marry in New York now 18.

Oh hallelujah. (this is genuine relief, kind of hard to display in text)

Why ? Usually a lower age (in western societies at least) is meant to accept the reality that teenagers can get pregnant. By allowing marriage you also allow the teen parents to legally act as parents for the offspring.
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:36 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Biwolfia wrote:Oh hallelujah. (this is genuine relief, kind of hard to display in text)

Why ? Usually a lower age (in western societies at least) is meant to accept the reality that teenagers can get pregnant. By allowing marriage you also allow the teen parents to legally act as parents for the offspring.

Um hmm let's see OH MAYBE IT'S THE FACT THAT TEEN PREGNANCIES CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS AND DIFFICULT TO HANDLE
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Postby Atomic Testing Museum » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:37 pm

So do we just debate random politics here?

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:So do we just debate random politics here?

No this is for Us politics only.

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Postby The Temple of the Computer » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:So do we just debate random politics here?

For American politics yeah, but if it is something covered by a another thread, then go to that thread.
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Postby Biwolfia » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Atomic Testing Museum wrote:So do we just debate random politics here?

Well it started out as: can political enemies be friends in the real world, but it's become a mishmash of pretty much just everything in american politics
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