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by Kowani » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:02 pm
by Sundiata » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:07 pm
Kowani wrote:One deportation I won't be complaining about? This Nazi Concentration Camp Guard who was living in Tennessee, who found himself on his way back to Germany on Saturday
by Punished UMN » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:10 pm
Kowani wrote:One deportation I won't be complaining about? This Nazi Concentration Camp Guard who was living in Tennessee, who found himself on his way back to Germany on Saturday
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:13 pm
Picairn wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:It's Saturday! So, remember those small reforms Biden made? He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too), but of course we can expect him to close the concentration camps on the border... right? That's right, Biden’s new ICE guidance completely backtracks from 100-day deportation moratorium promise, expands enforcement priorities.
Depressing, but not unexpected.
"The new guidelines could shield a substantial number of people. The nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute estimated that 87% of noncitizens in the country without authorization would not be priorities for enforcement if Biden used the national security and public safety criteria as was done under Obama."
So... an improvement?
by Kowani » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:19 pm
Punished UMN wrote:Kowani wrote:One deportation I won't be complaining about? This Nazi Concentration Camp Guard who was living in Tennessee, who found himself on his way back to Germany on Saturday
I don't doubt it but can I read about it somewhere that doesn't require me to disable my adblocker on Mediaite?
by Punished UMN » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:36 pm
by Alcala-Cordel » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:14 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:It's Saturday! So, remember those small reforms Biden made? He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too), but of course we can expect him to close the concentration camps on the border... right? That's right, Biden’s new ICE guidance completely backtracks from 100-day deportation moratorium promise, expands enforcement priorities.
Depressing, but not unexpected.
Can you explain to me why those who have committed felonies should be permitted to stay?
Picairn wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:It's Saturday! So, remember those small reforms Biden made? He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too), but of course we can expect him to close the concentration camps on the border... right? That's right, Biden’s new ICE guidance completely backtracks from 100-day deportation moratorium promise, expands enforcement priorities.
Depressing, but not unexpected.
"The new guidelines could shield a substantial number of people. The nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute estimated that 87% of noncitizens in the country without authorization would not be priorities for enforcement if Biden used the national security and public safety criteria as was done under Obama."
So... an improvement?
New haven america wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:It's Saturday! So, remember those small reforms Biden made? He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too), but of course we can expect him to close the concentration camps on the border... right? That's right, Biden’s new ICE guidance completely backtracks from 100-day deportation moratorium promise, expands enforcement priorities.
Depressing, but not unexpected.
Do... Do you actually read your sources?
It literally says up to 87% of illegal immigrants won't be deportation priorities.
Alcala-Cordel wrote:\He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too).
by The Alma Mater » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:44 pm
Ifreann wrote:Something that didn't occur to me until I saw it pointed out, the ICE detention centres in Texas are also without power and are freezing cold. People whose welfare is the responsibility of the federal government are in life-threatening danger. Is Joe Biden going to let innocent children freeze to death because they don't have the right paperwork to be allowed into the US?
by Blargoblarg » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:48 am
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:Blargoblarg wrote:Unfortunately, the Paris Agreement is inadequate to address the problem of climate change, so this really isn't some great achievement. If I believed Biden actually cared about climate change I would have voted for him.
You voted a month early, for Hawkins, and you didn't bother watching the Biden/Trump debates.
So you can stop now with the "I would have voted for Biden if..." stuff.
by Gravlen » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:23 am
Farnhamia wrote:Bombadil wrote:I wonder what he'll talk about..
Former president Donald Trump will address the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, in Florida next week, about the future of the Republican party and the conservative movement, a source familiar with the plan told Reuters on Saturday.
The CPAC meeting will be held in Orlando, Florida from 25 to 28 February, with Trump speaking on the final day, Reuters reported.
“He’ll be talking about the future of the Republican party and the conservative movement,” the source reportedly said. “Also look for the 45th president to take on President [Joe] Biden’s disastrous amnesty and border policies.”
Link
Why did they put "Joe" in brackets?
by New haven america » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:35 am
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Can you explain to me why those who have committed felonies should be permitted to stay?
1. Social programs can go a long way, you know. The primary cause of crime is inequality, and it would be greatly reduced if we helped those who needed it rather than made their lives worse.Picairn wrote:"The new guidelines could shield a substantial number of people. The nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute estimated that 87% of noncitizens in the country without authorization would not be priorities for enforcement if Biden used the national security and public safety criteria as was done under Obama."
So... an improvement?
2. And yet Obama was infamous for mass deportations until Trump came along. Being better than Trump is irrelevant to this, Biden has no reasonable excuse for taking a step back after a few steps forward.New haven america wrote:Do... Do you actually read your sources?
It literally says up to 87% of illegal immigrants won't be deportation priorities.Alcala-Cordel wrote:\He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too).
3. yep
by New haven america » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:46 am
Ifreann wrote:Something that didn't occur to me until I saw it pointed out, the ICE detention centres in Texas are also without power and are freezing cold. People whose welfare is the responsibility of the federal government are in life-threatening danger. Is Joe Biden going to let innocent children freeze to death because they don't have the right paperwork to be allowed into the US?
by The Alma Mater » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:16 am
New haven america wrote:Ifreann wrote:Something that didn't occur to me until I saw it pointed out, the ICE detention centres in Texas are also without power and are freezing cold. People whose welfare is the responsibility of the federal government are in life-threatening danger. Is Joe Biden going to let innocent children freeze to death because they don't have the right paperwork to be allowed into the US?
He already provided emergency supplies and ok'ed emergency services to the area a week ago.
And then the Rep leaders of the state who are supposed to handle those things fled the country to spend the past week in Mexico to get away from the cold.
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:47 am
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Can you explain to me why those who have committed felonies should be permitted to stay?
Social programs can go a long way, you know. The primary cause of crime is inequality, and it would be greatly reduced if we helped those who needed it rather than made their lives worse.Picairn wrote:"The new guidelines could shield a substantial number of people. The nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute estimated that 87% of noncitizens in the country without authorization would not be priorities for enforcement if Biden used the national security and public safety criteria as was done under Obama."
So... an improvement?
And yet Obama was infamous for mass deportations until Trump came along. Being better than Trump is irrelevant to this, Biden has no reasonable excuse for taking a step back after a few steps forward.New haven america wrote:Do... Do you actually read your sources?
It literally says up to 87% of illegal immigrants won't be deportation priorities.Alcala-Cordel wrote:\He just took a step back (this article tries and fails to defend it too).
yep
by Shu Chengdu » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:47 am
The Alma Mater wrote:New haven america wrote:He already provided emergency supplies and ok'ed emergency services to the area a week ago.
And then the Rep leaders of the state who are supposed to handle those things fled the country to spend the past week in Mexico to get away from the cold.
The sad thing is that a quick check of right wing social media is that most Texans are utterly unaware of this. They do not know aid was made available a week ago.
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:53 am
by Vassenor » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:54 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Reading The Art of The Deal has made me wonder. Looking at Trump's book, there is no way President Trump was Donald Trump. Something isn't right, I fully support 2016 and 1987 Trump, a perfect example of Conservative Worker man/Radical Centrist of sorts. Makes me feel like President Trump wasn't Donald Trump at all, something was wrong during his time of 2017-2020 and I'm not sure what.
Inb4 "He was always a bad person, Trump bad because x, Conservative bad"
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:57 am
Vassenor wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Reading The Art of The Deal has made me wonder. Looking at Trump's book, there is no way President Trump was Donald Trump. Something isn't right, I fully support 2016 and 1987 Trump, a perfect example of Conservative Worker man/Radical Centrist of sorts. Makes me feel like President Trump wasn't Donald Trump at all, something was wrong during his time of 2017-2020 and I'm not sure what.
Inb4 "He was always a bad person, Trump bad because x, Conservative bad"
I mean he's been notorious for the racism and stiffing his workers for years.
by Vassenor » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:00 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Vassenor wrote:
I mean he's been notorious for the racism and stiffing his workers for years.
You mind re-reading what I've said? President Trump doesn't seem to be Donald Trump. Something happened whilst he was in office, maybe something party related is my guess. There was a fair amount that he did contribute to which I support (mainly foreign policy) but there is a lot of other crap that doesn't make sense to someone like Trump or even his beliefs
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:03 am
Vassenor wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:You mind re-reading what I've said? President Trump doesn't seem to be Donald Trump. Something happened whilst he was in office, maybe something party related is my guess. There was a fair amount that he did contribute to which I support (mainly foreign policy) but there is a lot of other crap that doesn't make sense to someone like Trump or even his beliefs
That's what you get for basing your assumptions about him on a book that was quite blatantly ghostwritten.
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:08 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote: yeah he was a president like Carter.
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:08 am
by New haven america » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:09 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Vassenor wrote:
I mean he's been notorious for the racism and stiffing his workers for years.
You mind re-reading what I've said? President Trump doesn't seem to be Donald Trump. Something happened whilst he was in office, maybe something party related is my guess. There was a fair amount that he did contribute to which I support (mainly foreign policy) but there is a lot of other crap that doesn't make sense to someone like Trump or even his beliefs
by Vassenor » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:09 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Vassenor wrote:
That's what you get for basing your assumptions about him on a book that was quite blatantly ghostwritten.
The book gives out a really good outline of who trump is and how he acts. Even looking back at interviews and footage from 1978-2013, Trump was a whole different figure and was what I'd call arrogant but a true American. As a man apart of the STEM field, I have a theory that perhaps trump after winning the election. Party restrictions and difficulties have caused a change. I'd say he went from a true conservative workers man in his campaign to just, "yeah he was a president" e.g like Carter, he just existed.
by Vassenor » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:10 am
New haven america wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:You mind re-reading what I've said? President Trump doesn't seem to be Donald Trump. Something happened whilst he was in office, maybe something party related is my guess. There was a fair amount that he did contribute to which I support (mainly foreign policy) but there is a lot of other crap that doesn't make sense to someone like Trump or even his beliefs
Maybe you could try making an argument that actually makes coherent sense?
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