by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:36 am
by Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:38 am
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by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:38 am
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:40 am
Adamede wrote:The draft was ended for a reason in the US, and that’s because the government used it to send tens of thousands of American soldiers to their deaths in an extremely unpopular war.
Anyway, the draft isn’t really gone. Selective service is still a thing in the US, which means that if the draft is needed for another war they’ll just bring it back and start drafting people.
by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:41 am
Saint Yosx wrote:Adamede wrote:The draft was ended for a reason in the US, and that’s because the government used it to send tens of thousands of American soldiers to their deaths in an extremely unpopular war.
Anyway, the draft isn’t really gone. Selective service is still a thing in the US, which means that if the draft is needed for another war they’ll just bring it back and start drafting people.
I do think that the Vietnam draft is not the best example, as it forced people into combat, I think allowing people to have at least some autonomy when it comes to how they serve would avoid unesscary death and grief.
by Honeydewistania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:41 am
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by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:42 am
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:43 am
Thermodolia wrote:The draft should be reinstated but we should offer the possibility of non-military service. So you could have the draft send people into a CCC type program, or agriculture related services, or environmental services, or medical services in addition to military service.
by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:43 am
Thermodolia wrote:The draft should be reinstated but we should offer the possibility of non-military service. So you could have the draft send people into a CCC type program, or agriculture related services, or environmental services, or medical services in addition to military service.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:45 am
by Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:49 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Yes it is, and if you conscript me to fight a stupid corporate war or war for some fascist's dreams of glory, im simply gonna walk away and go AWOL.
Fuck war in general.
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by Tranzoria » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:52 am
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by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:53 am
by Esalia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:57 am
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:01 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Being conscripted in a country that never goes to war wouldn't be so bad.
Being conscripted in America is basically a death sentence.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:01 am
Esalia wrote:I'm only okay with conscription if a) there's a non-military equivalent for those who don't want to fight or b) the country desperately needs it.
Otherwise, I don't see the need for it nor can I support it, even if it has benefits.
Thermodolia wrote:The draft should be reinstated but we should offer the possibility of non-military service. So you could have the draft send people into a CCC type program, or agriculture related services, or environmental services, or medical services in addition to military service.
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:08 am
Thermodolia wrote:Esalia wrote:I'm only okay with conscription if a) there's a non-military equivalent for those who don't want to fight or b) the country desperately needs it.
Otherwise, I don't see the need for it nor can I support it, even if it has benefits.
Kinda like this:Thermodolia wrote:The draft should be reinstated but we should offer the possibility of non-military service. So you could have the draft send people into a CCC type program, or agriculture related services, or environmental services, or medical services in addition to military service.
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by Esalia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:12 am
Thermodolia wrote:Esalia wrote:I'm only okay with conscription if a) there's a non-military equivalent for those who don't want to fight or b) the country desperately needs it.
Otherwise, I don't see the need for it nor can I support it, even if it has benefits.
Kinda like this:Thermodolia wrote:The draft should be reinstated but we should offer the possibility of non-military service. So you could have the draft send people into a CCC type program, or agriculture related services, or environmental services, or medical services in addition to military service.
by SD_Film Artists » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:33 am
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:35 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:Some limited form of national service would be good to make people earn citizenship beyond taxes with a greater sense of unity, but full-on conscription isn't justified unless the country faces a existential crisis.
by Greater Cesnica » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:37 am
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by SD_Film Artists » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:38 am
Saint Yosx wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:Some limited form of national service would be good to make people earn citizenship beyond taxes with a greater sense of unity, but full-on conscription isn't justified unless the country faces a existential crisis.
Then again we do have Jury duty which is sort of like a conscription in a way. A conscription would insure we have people to fall back on just in case of disaster.
by Arisyan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:38 am
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