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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:19 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:That’s why there needs to be complete censorship on the media of the entire concept of race needs to be enforced, because race is a social construct. In the US, children spend more of their early life in school than outside of school, if the concept of "race doesn’t exist," "race never did exist," "what my parents say as race is an archaic religious idea that is wrong and unreal" is drilled into their minds from an early age, they will be far less susceptible to even recognizing the concept of race. In order to carry this out, the state needs to take complete control of all education, censor any and all mention of race and racism in education, violently crack down on racial supremacist groups, and censor history that involves race issues. The means are justified by the end

Okay, now you're just being silly.

Of course I know my ideas are practically impossible, but I’m describing my ideal system. North Korean, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, etc. brainwashing propaganda had worked in convincing millions of people to throw off centuries of archaic tradition followed by their parents, children’s minds are easy to mold due to how much influence school has
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:25 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, now you're just being silly.

Of course I know my ideas are practically impossible, but I’m describing my ideal system. North Korean, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, etc. brainwashing propaganda had worked in convincing millions of people to throw off centuries of archaic tradition followed by their parents, children’s minds are easy to mold due to how much influence school has

Like, there's a whole game you're currently on the website for where you can go about making up whatever weird ass system you want for your country. You can go to literally any other section of this forum to do that, but you came to the one sole part of the site where we talk about the real world to do this...
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Postby Comerciante » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:28 am

Is this the real world?

Or is this just fantasy?

Trying to tell the difference has been quite hard.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:28 am

Shrillland wrote:Today, Biden's chosen another deputy secretary, this time an assistant secretary for HHS. Hardly remarkable except for one thing: She's transgender: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-transgender-doctor-rachel-levine-460320

Awesome. what do deputy secretaries do and Is it the same as assistant Secretary?
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:29 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Of course I know my ideas are practically impossible, but I’m describing my ideal system. North Korean, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, etc. brainwashing propaganda had worked in convincing millions of people to throw off centuries of archaic tradition followed by their parents, children’s minds are easy to mold due to how much influence school has

Like, there's a whole game you're currently on the website for where you can go about making up whatever weird ass system you want for your country. You can go to literally any other section of this forum to do that, but you came to the one sole part of the site where we talk about the real world to do this...

Considering we just had an attempted coup, the lines seem to be blurring
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:30 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Like, there's a whole game you're currently on the website for where you can go about making up whatever weird ass system you want for your country. You can go to literally any other section of this forum to do that, but you came to the one sole part of the site where we talk about the real world to do this...

Considering we just had an attempted coup, the lines seem to be blurring

Not a compelling excuse.
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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:31 am

Shrillland wrote:Today, Biden's chosen another deputy secretary, this time an assistant secretary for HHS. Hardly remarkable except for one thing: She's transgender: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-transgender-doctor-rachel-levine-460320


She also appears to be educated, qualified, and experienced in similar roles, which is a nice change from the last four years.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Today, Biden's chosen another deputy secretary, this time an assistant secretary for HHS. Hardly remarkable except for one thing: She's transgender: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-transgender-doctor-rachel-levine-460320

Awesome. what do deputy secretaries do and Is it the same as assistant Secretary?


She's just one of the subordinate experts that's politically appointed, really.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:50 am

The Untied State wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
What exactly does this prove?

that race inequality isn't directly tied to class inequality?


If you got rid of class inequality, race inequality would decrease by alot. It isnt just tied to class inequality but I can say with certainty that most of it is that.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:51 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Untied State wrote:that race inequality isn't directly tied to class inequality?


If you got rid of class inequality, race inequality would decrease by alot. It isnt just tied to class inequality but I can say with certainty that most of it is that.

One generally begets the other.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:54 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
If you got rid of class inequality, race inequality would decrease by alot. It isnt just tied to class inequality but I can say with certainty that most of it is that.

One generally begets the other.


Like when we think of race inequality we often think of underfunded schools, poor housing, lack of healthy food, shittier Healthcare and the school to prison pipeline. These things are tied to class.

What isn't tied to class is the rise of right wing extremists killing people for their race or ethnicity and the usual bullshit of someone following you around in a store when you didn't do anything wrong. And the nasty looks and comments behind your back.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:56 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:One generally begets the other.


Like when we think of race inequality we often think of underfunded schools, poor housing, lack of healthy food, shittier Healthcare and the school to prison pipeline. These things are tied to class.

What isn't tied to class is the rise of right wing extremists killing people for their race or ethnicity and the usual bullshit of someone following you around in a store when you didn't do anything wrong. And the nasty looks and comments behind your back.

Me and my brother like to play 'who is sketchier' with department store cameras. This is not a game I play with my minority friends.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby No State Here » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:57 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:So your premise is that racial tensions flows entirely from being aware of the history of racism? That racist parents would somehow never mention it if the kids never learned it in school?

That’s why there needs to be complete censorship on the media of the entire concept of race needs to be enforced, because race is a social construct. In the US, children spend more of their early life in school than outside of school, if the concept of "race doesn’t exist," "race never did exist," "what my parents say as race is an archaic religious idea that is wrong and unreal" is drilled into their minds from an early age, they will be far less susceptible to even recognizing the concept of race. In order to carry this out, the state needs to take complete control of all education, censor any and all mention of race and racism in education, violently crack down on racial supremacist groups, and censor history that involves race issues. The means are justified by the end

Through ending racism like this, you would also have a brainwashed population at the whim of the state that’ll listen to anything told to them and… oh

Trying to pull a sneaky huh?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:58 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Like when we think of race inequality we often think of underfunded schools, poor housing, lack of healthy food, shittier Healthcare and the school to prison pipeline. These things are tied to class.

What isn't tied to class is the rise of right wing extremists killing people for their race or ethnicity and the usual bullshit of someone following you around in a store when you didn't do anything wrong. And the nasty looks and comments behind your back.

Me and my brother like to play 'who is sketchier' with department store cameras. This is not a game I play with my minority friends.


I would play it with my friends but then we'd all get similar scores...except Ryan. He'd look fine with his light colored sk- I mean light colored khakis and polo shirt.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:59 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Me and my brother like to play 'who is sketchier' with department store cameras. This is not a game I play with my minority friends.


I would play it with my friends but then we'd all get similar scores...except Ryan. He'd look fine with his light colored sk- I mean light colored khakis and polo shirt.

Unintentionally hilarious.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:07 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, now you're just being silly.

Of course I know my ideas are practically impossible, but I’m describing my ideal system. North Korean, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, etc. brainwashing propaganda had worked in convincing millions of people to throw off centuries of archaic tradition followed by their parents, children’s minds are easy to mold due to how much influence school has


This is just the Benevolent Dictator Fallacy, applied to media.

Of course it will be YOU and other fascists, who will get to control the propaganda.

Take a look at the media we have already (and the schooling since you mentioned that).

Imagine the epicenter of the current media/schooling message. Imagine now, that it is all the same, "brainwashing" people into working interesting jobs, consuming as much as they can afford (or more), having interesting but private sex lives, and occasionally visiting a forum for Two Minutes of Meh.

You don't like it much, do you? Homogeneity of society, not all you were hoping for.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:10 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I would play it with my friends but then we'd all get similar scores...except Ryan. He'd look fine with his light colored sk- I mean light colored khakis and polo shirt.

Unintentionally hilarious.


*cough*
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:15 am

Comerciante wrote:Is this the real world?

Or is this just fantasy?

Trying to tell the difference has been quite hard.


We seem to be caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Comerciante wrote:Is this the real world?

Or is this just fantasy?

Trying to tell the difference has been quite hard.


We seem to be caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.

I think we might see something in the sky if we open our eyes.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:18 am

Well, Rachel Levine, who sent covid patients back to nursing homes and assisted living facilities while they were still sick and then took her mother out of the assisted living facility she was living in is going to be assistant secretary of health.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:21 am

Galloism wrote:Well, Rachel Levine, who sent covid patients back to nursing homes and assisted living facilities while they were still sick and then took her mother out of the assisted living facility she was living in is going to be assistant secretary of health.

Honestly what where the people who made that call thinking? Andrew Cuomo has the blood of every nursing home patient who died from COVID complications on his hands, I know our governor isn’t the brightest but how insanely stupid do you have to be to send covid patients to fucking nursing homes?
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:22 am

No State Here wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, Rachel Levine, who sent covid patients back to nursing homes and assisted living facilities while they were still sick and then took her mother out of the assisted living facility she was living in is going to be assistant secretary of health.

Honestly what where the people who made that call thinking? Andrew Cuomo has the blood of every nursing home patient who died from COVID complications on his hands, I know our governor isn’t the brightest but how insanely stupid do you have to be to send covid patients to fucking nursing homes?

Pennsylvania, not New York. Tom Wolf, not Andrew Cuomo.
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Postby No State Here » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:24 am

Galloism wrote:
No State Here wrote:Honestly what where the people who made that call thinking? Andrew Cuomo has the blood of every nursing home patient who died from COVID complications on his hands, I know our governor isn’t the brightest but how insanely stupid do you have to be to send covid patients to fucking nursing homes?

Pennsylvania, not New York. Tom Wolf, not Andrew Cuomo.

It happened here in New York as well

Cuomo's assertion that "it never happened" is false. According to a report from the New York State Department of Health, "6,326 COVID-positive residents were admitted to [nursing home] facilities" following Cuomo's mandate that nursing homes accept the readmission of Covid-positive patients from hospitals. Whether or not this was "needed," it did in fact happen.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:24 am

No State Here wrote:
Galloism wrote:Pennsylvania, not New York. Tom Wolf, not Andrew Cuomo.

It happened in New York as well

I understand, but Ms Levine was not there at the time.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:35 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, now you're just being silly.

Of course I know my ideas are practically impossible, but I’m describing my ideal system. North Korean, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, etc. brainwashing propaganda had worked in convincing millions of people to throw off centuries of archaic tradition followed by their parents, children’s minds are easy to mold due to how much influence school has

You know what a great way to get people to revolt against an authoritarian regime is? Mess with their kids' schools
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