American Politics Impeachment: 2 fast? No, we're 2 furious

[Thanatttynia]

You and techbros might agree on disliking Trump, but lemme tell you something they're not too keen on unions either lol

That's because they're still bourgeois parasites.

The techbros or the unions? You think that's gonna change?

[Cordel One]

They're so vastly outnumbered that they can't do much even if they do win. Besides, the Libertarian Party is within the Overton Window and had some corporate support.

aren't libertarians anti-corporation?

The cool libertarians are, but these libertarians are diet ancaps.

[Sanghyeok]

In the end, your vote for that minor party that'll never win matters the same as voting for one of two corporatist parties.

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regiona ... b9a19.html

A Libertarian won election in the Wyoming House last year.

I now know how doctors arguing smoking leads to lung cancer feel like when someone tells them "but my family member smoked and lived to 90!"

[Picairn]

Trump flees to Parler and Apple and Google are now threatening to cut the app off from their app store platforms? (Google has already done this apparently lol) Do 'liberals' have a problem with this? Of course not! Because? Because of Apple and Google's TOS silly! Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences! It clearly states in their TOS that you may not express yourself in any way not conducive to their particular conception of 'wellness' and must renounce 'harm' in every form!!! If you don't like it, simply cut yourself off from the only way people communicate nowadays :-)

'freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences' simply will not cut it when these corporations control our means of communication with one another. It is like saying freedom of speech existed in Victorian England because you could say what you like at Speakers Corner, or freedom of speech exists in China because they haven't yet bugged every kitchen. What do we mean when we say freedom of speech? Let's talk about it.

"I'm being censored!"

"Also listen to my podcast, buy my books, tune in for my TV show, read one of my articles on my WordPress blog."

[Cordel One]

That's because they're still bourgeois parasites.

The techbros or the unions? You think that's gonna change?

The tech companies. Things won't change in the US for the forseeable but the status quo isn't eternal.

[San Lumen]

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regiona ... b9a19.html

A Libertarian won election in the Wyoming House last year.

They're so vastly outnumbered that they can't do much even if they do win. Besides, the Libertarian Party is within the Overton Window and had some corporate support.

If more people voted for them they could win. This gentleman did. Is corporate support your answer for everything? Whose not corporate backed to you?

[Sanghyeok]

They're so vastly outnumbered that they can't do much even if they do win. Besides, the Libertarian Party is within the Overton Window and had some corporate support.

If more people voted for them they could win. This gentleman did. Is corporate support your answer for everything? Whose not corporate backed to you?

Kowani.

[Valrifell]

You and techbros might agree on disliking Trump, but lemme tell you something they're not too keen on unions either lol

That's because they're still bourgeois parasites.

You know what they say, a bourgeois parasite is right twice a day.

[Xmara]

So, with Twitter permanently banning Trump, are we allowed to celebrate or would that constitute as gloating?

[Cordel One]

Trump flees to Parler and Apple and Google are now threatening to cut the app off from their app store platforms? (Google has already done this apparently lol) Do 'liberals' have a problem with this? Of course not! Because? Because of Apple and Google's TOS silly! Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences! It clearly states in their TOS that you may not express yourself in any way not conducive to their particular conception of 'wellness' and must renounce 'harm' in every form!!! If you don't like it, simply cut yourself off from the only way people communicate nowadays :-)

'freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences' simply will not cut it when these corporations control our means of communication with one another. It is like saying freedom of speech existed in Victorian England because you could say what you like at Speakers Corner, or freedom of speech exists in China because they haven't yet bugged every kitchen. What do we mean when we say freedom of speech? Let's talk about it.

"I'm being censored!"

"Also listen to my podcast, buy my books, tune in for my TV show, read one of my articles on my WordPress blog."

And check out my new Netflix comedy special "CENSORED", about how censored and discriminated against we conservatives are.

[The Marlborough]

You can maybe justify Twitter banning Trump's personal account, but them deleting tweets from the official POTUS account is way, way, way too far. .gov should tell Twitter to fuck off and cease going down that road and if Twitter doesn't then nationalize it without compensation.

The news said it was the same bile as on his personal account. Personal account? Sure; bile away. An account of the President? Nope. Sorry.

On that note; the daily show congratulated the Be Best campaign for finally accomplishing something.

I don't care if it was the same bile, it's an official government account and it is the top political officeholder communicating through it. The authority of the state takes precedence here and no private entity should be able to control communications between the government and the rest of the population in such a manner. I understand people hate Trump, he's an absolutely horrific person, but he's at the moment still officially the President and opening very dangerous doors simply out of blind hate is not worth the cost, especially with such a short period of time left in office.

The only thing that constrains the federal government is the Constitution, not Jack Dorsey.

[San Lumen]

https://trib.com/news/state-and-regiona ... b9a19.html

A Libertarian won election in the Wyoming House last year.

I now know how doctors arguing smoking leads to lung cancer feel like when someone tells them "but my family member smoked and lived to 90!"

Not the point. You said third parties never win well I gave you an example of won. A second candidate from the party lost in the same state by only 39 votes.

[Sanghyeok]

I now know how doctors arguing smoking leads to lung cancer feel like when someone tells them "but my family member smoked and lived to 90!"

Not the point. You said third parties never win well I gave you an example of won. A second candidate from the party lost in the same state by only 39 votes.

And sometimes people who smoke live to 90.

[Cultural Posadism]

When @jack is done, only dril and Gators Daily will still exist on the bird app.

Unban Bilbo the cat or we riot, @jack

Bilbo is a good cat boy but he's also a sectarian symbol, unfortunately.

[San Lumen]

Not the point. You said third parties never win well I gave you an example of won. A second candidate from the party lost in the same state by only 39 votes.

And sometimes people who smoke live to 90.

What a masterful dodge which completely ignores what I said.

[Bombadil]

The news said it was the same bile as on his personal account. Personal account? Sure; bile away. An account of the President? Nope. Sorry.

On that note; the daily show congratulated the Be Best campaign for finally accomplishing something.

I don't care if it was the same bile, it's an official government account and it is the top political officeholder communicating through it. The authority of the state takes precedence here and no private entity should be able to control communications between the government and the rest of the population in such a manner. I understand people hate Trump, he's an absolutely horrific person, but he's at the moment still officially the President and opening very dangerous doors simply out of blind hate is not worth the cost, especially with such a short period of time left in office.

The only thing that constrains the federal government is the Constitution, not Jack Dorsey.

I'm sure if he posts nicely he can do so, the fact he continues to push the false election narrative is why the posts are removed. I don't see the account as closed exactly, just his posts are removed because they have been shown to incite sedition. Pretty clear that despite his little speech yesterday he doesn't regret shit and still sees himself as a victim.

[Thanatttynia]

Trump flees to Parler and Apple and Google are now threatening to cut the app off from their app store platforms? (Google has already done this apparently lol) Do 'liberals' have a problem with this? Of course not! Because? Because of Apple and Google's TOS silly! Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences! It clearly states in their TOS that you may not express yourself in any way not conducive to their particular conception of 'wellness' and must renounce 'harm' in every form!!! If you don't like it, simply cut yourself off from the only way people communicate nowadays :-)

'freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences' simply will not cut it when these corporations control our means of communication with one another. It is like saying freedom of speech existed in Victorian England because you could say what you like at Speakers Corner, or freedom of speech exists in China because they haven't yet bugged every kitchen. What do we mean when we say freedom of speech? Let's talk about it.

"I'm being censored!"

"Also listen to my podcast, buy my books, tune in for my TV show, read one of my articles on my WordPress blog."

Would you be happy if your politician of choice were suddenly cut off from the major way people talk to one another nowadays? (Don't think it won't happen, unless you're in perfect lockstep with the whims of the silicon valley elite) Would you be happy if there was therefore a chilling effect on even tangentially related politics?

Also sidenote lol but you think ppl are going round reading books in this day and age? May as well carve your manifesto onto a rock and expect people to walk past and read it

[Kexholm Karelia]

You’re not a milquetoast conservative lol you’re a literal nazi

After the last couple days, can you really still say there’s THAT much of a difference?

Yes, why wouldn’t there be?

[Valrifell]

Also sidenote lol but you think ppl are going round reading books in this day and age?

Yes

[Sanghyeok]

And sometimes people who smoke live to 90.

What a masterful dodge which completely ignores what I said.

You presented two cases in which the norm didn't occur. I related that to the problem of lung cancer and smoking. If you're not fond of that comparison, I can give you another one with Darjeeling and staying awake?

[Thanatttynia]

The techbros or the unions? You think that's gonna change?

The tech companies. Things won't change in the US for the forseeable but the status quo isn't eternal.

So you're good on giving this power to 'bourgeois parasites' because their political affiliation may or may not change at some point in the (distant?) future?

[Bahia Roja]

You can maybe justify Twitter banning Trump's personal account, but them deleting tweets from the official POTUS account is way, way, way too far. .gov should tell Twitter to fuck off and cease going down that road and if Twitter doesn't then nationalize it without compensation.

A President shouldn't be encouraging violent acts on his own government. C'mon, man... there are limits to everything.

[Shrillland]

And sometimes people who smoke live to 90.

What a masterful dodge which completely ignores what I said.

It isn't a dodge, it's a direct counterpoint. He's saying that just because one or two do manage to get elected doesn't make it statistically more possible to do so, nor does it mean that our electoral system is any more representative of the people just because of a few data outliers.

[Kexholm Karelia]

I wonder if NSG could become a refuge for persecuted conservatives

The mods wouldn't like that, I don't think.

Why not?

[Bahia Roja]

Why not?

Right-wing politics tend to attract... well... hateful and bigoted people.