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Postby Leutria » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:39 pm

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Kavagrad wrote:That would be good, except that there's not even a 0% complete display for Cure Missile Mk.1 progress. There's no Cure/Kill superweapons being displayed at all when you choose those options, which seems like it's either a bug or an extremely confusing and counter-intuitive way of doing this.

From past memory, updates only happen once an hour. So I would presume in about 20 min we'll have updates on our cure missile status.

From my memory as well, this.

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Postby Peatiktist » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:39 pm

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Jabberwocky wrote:I assume it takes some time to research a cure, during which time hordes grow.

You would have to assume that, because there's no indicator for cure or kill weapon progress. That's the problem.

The Z-day zombie graphs and superweapon progress update every hour. Wait about 20 minutes and you'll get your cure/kill superweapon.

That said, I feel like last year you got a the base superweapon for your first choice immediately, but I don't remember for sure.
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Postby Kavagrad » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:40 pm

Former English Colony wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:That would be good, except that there's not even a 0% complete display for Cure Missile Mk.1 progress. There's no Cure/Kill superweapons being displayed at all when you choose those options, which seems like it's either a bug or an extremely confusing and counter-intuitive way of doing this.

From past memory, updates only happen once an hour. So I would presume in about 20 min we'll have updates on our cure missile status.

Here's hoping. Seems a bit silly not to at least indicate that there will be progress by having it at 0%, but if it updates on the hour, then at least the entire event isn't broken.
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Postby Saralonia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:43 pm

Former English Colony wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:That would be good, except that there's not even a 0% complete display for Cure Missile Mk.1 progress. There's no Cure/Kill superweapons being displayed at all when you choose those options, which seems like it's either a bug or an extremely confusing and counter-intuitive way of doing this.

From past memory, updates only happen once an hour. So I would presume in about 20 min we'll have updates on our cure missile status.


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Postby Xatu the Great » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:03 pm

looks like the progress is off-sync? 3 minutes past the hour and nothing yet
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:13 pm

Xatu the Great wrote:looks like the progress is off-sync? 3 minutes past the hour and nothing yet

Yep, still not working for me either!
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Postby Kavagrad » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:16 pm

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Xatu the Great wrote:looks like the progress is off-sync? 3 minutes past the hour and nothing yet

Yep, still not working for me either!

It appears to be staggered. Some already have it, some don't. We're still in the dark over in TLA, but most of our embassy partners have updated. It's odd.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:27 pm

Okay all I have are hordes but I am using the military, the game is bugged I think.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:30 pm

This is how it is every year. The Horde superweapon develops first and fastest and it develops for everyone, then as updates roll out your choices start to take effect. Over time you develop the superweapon you want. With the exception of the first few minutes where Cure options weren't sticking this is working like it has every year.

Edit: Of course a gameside crash doesn't help things.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:36 pm

Cool, that crash had me worried though lol.
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Postby Z-defender » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:39 pm

I've chosen to cure, and it says 50% developed (same with infect) but for some reason it doesn't let me send cure missiles.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:43 pm

Z-defender wrote:I've chosen to cure, and it says 50% developed (same with infect) but for some reason it doesn't let me send cure missiles.


You need 100% development before you can use a superweapon. Then it will continue to develop bigger and stronger levels of the superweapon, and you will be able to use them all the while. (20 second interval between strikes, 2:00 timer(?could be wrong my memory fails me) if you are yourself hit)

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Postby Z-defender » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:44 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Z-defender wrote:I've chosen to cure, and it says 50% developed (same with infect) but for some reason it doesn't let me send cure missiles.


You need 100% development before you can use a superweapon. Then it will continue to develop bigger and stronger levels of the superweapon, and you will be able to use them all the while. (20 second interval between strikes, 2:00 timer(?could be wrong my memory fails me) if you are yourself hit)

OK, cool. Also can I cure myself using other puppets? And for some reason the development for cure is not increasing,.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:46 pm

Z-defender wrote:
Holy Marsh wrote:
You need 100% development before you can use a superweapon. Then it will continue to develop bigger and stronger levels of the superweapon, and you will be able to use them all the while. (20 second interval between strikes, 2:00 timer(?could be wrong my memory fails me) if you are yourself hit)

OK, cool. Also can I cure myself using other puppets?


In theory yes. If you have puppets in your region and they have cure missiles they can cure you, though that will reset your own timers. And until your regional infection rate is lowered, every update more citizens will become infected regardless of your own cure missile level and development, plus this doesn't prevent horde empires from attacking and infecting you.

Superweapon development goes up every update on/around the hour.
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Postby Z-defender » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:48 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Z-defender wrote:OK, cool. Also can I cure myself using other puppets?


In theory yes. If you have puppets in your region and they have cure missiles they can cure you, though that will reset your own timers. And until your regional infection rate is lowered, every update more citizens will become infected regardless of your own cure missile level and development, plus this doesn't prevent horde empires from attacking and infecting you.

Superweapon development goes up every update on/around the hour.

OK, thanks.
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Postby Isonests » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:33 pm

I have a problem: my main (skm) I am using to cure my puppets, but there is then an error where my puppets cannot access my nation page to cure my main. In fact, I don’t believe any nation can now view SKM, meaning it cannot be cured.
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Postby Bautizar » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:54 pm

I seem to recall this glitch also happening last year (selected "cure," went back to it several hours later to find "horde" was selected; both last year and this year). Is there a fix in the works for future years, to prevent this from happening again?

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Postby Leutria » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:19 pm

Bautizar wrote:I seem to recall this glitch also happening last year (selected "cure," went back to it several hours later to find "horde" was selected; both last year and this year). Is there a fix in the works for future years, to prevent this from happening again?

It does automatically switch to horde if you are overrun.

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Postby Phydios » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:56 pm

Bautizar wrote:I seem to recall this glitch also happening last year (selected "cure," went back to it several hours later to find "horde" was selected; both last year and this year). Is there a fix in the works for future years, to prevent this from happening again?

Not a glitch. Admins decided (2017, I think) that "subverting command and control structures" would be a cool thing for zombie hordes to do.
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:58 pm

From the recent news:

I have received scattered reports of roving bands of undead feasting upon the living. To which I say: Thank you, and we'll deal with those as soon as we can.

The real problem I want to discuss, though, is how some regions have closed their borders, and nations have redirected their resources into researching a "cure," or even exterminating zombie hordes with military force. I can't emphasize enough that this is a complete over-reaction. It is, in fact, this kind of needless fear that stokes division and prevents us from returning quickly to a regular lifestyle.

As such, I am hereby taking the unprecedented step of ordering an immediate halt to all cure-researching facilities world-wide.

I expect this to be completed within the next 30 minutes. Nations in the process of researching a cure will find that that research has automatically stopped.

As these facilities are located within your nations, I can't prevent you from starting them up again. But I urge you not to do so, and to instead embrace a quick return to normal life alongside the zombies.


I'm not exactly sure what is the point of this, but I guess this is where I will unfortunately have to stop; I was aiming on curing (maintaining all my puppets, of course, not a cure-and-run), but alas, it was fun while it lasted.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:01 am

Valentine Z wrote:From the recent news:

I have received scattered reports of roving bands of undead feasting upon the living. To which I say: Thank you, and we'll deal with those as soon as we can.

The real problem I want to discuss, though, is how some regions have closed their borders, and nations have redirected their resources into researching a "cure," or even exterminating zombie hordes with military force. I can't emphasize enough that this is a complete over-reaction. It is, in fact, this kind of needless fear that stokes division and prevents us from returning quickly to a regular lifestyle.

As such, I am hereby taking the unprecedented step of ordering an immediate halt to all cure-researching facilities world-wide.

I expect this to be completed within the next 30 minutes. Nations in the process of researching a cure will find that that research has automatically stopped.

As these facilities are located within your nations, I can't prevent you from starting them up again. But I urge you not to do so, and to instead embrace a quick return to normal life alongside the zombies.


I'm not exactly sure what is the point of this, but I guess this is where I will unfortunately have to stop; I was aiming on curing (maintaining all my puppets, of course, not a cure-and-run), but alas, it was fun while it lasted.

Actually, you can reverse the cancellation, by choosing the cure option again. Max is enjoying himself RPing as the NS Trump, and he's doing well in his role. :)
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Postby Companus Mutati » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:02 am

You can reselect the cure option!

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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:05 am

Picairn wrote:Actually, you can reverse the cancellation, by choosing the cure option again. Max is enjoying himself RPing as the NS Trump, and he's doing well in his role. :)

Oh, I am aware of that. Thankfully it is not permanent.

But unfortunately, while it really was fun while it lasted, I have other work to do, so there is that.
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Postby Barra e Janeiro » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:40 pm

I'm sure that sounded like a good idea for metagamers and people with coordinated groups awake at all hours of the day. Me, I slept and woke up to see my only options is to kill since my cure nations stagnated.

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Postby The Crusader nations » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:58 pm

BTW, When will the z day end, and when will they allow you to found your own regions?

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